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Old 06-15-2008, 01:41 AM   #21
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...though it is be permissible on SOME styles of pivoting spring loaded extractors. (The AR style bolts come to mind)
The Beretta 92/96 Series has also been designed to be able to have a bullet "hand-fed" directly into the chamber and the slide dropped/released/slowly closed/etc onto it with no ill-effects.
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Old 06-15-2008, 07:33 AM   #22
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The XD reps answer seems ambiguous. He says "That is not really a good habit to get into, and it probably wouldn't hurt anything unless you do it a lot."

It seems to me that he said 'That' meaning easing the slide forward, is not a good habit to get into, as you may ease the slide forward while loading or while firing, and that isn't the way it's designed to operate.

The reason I believe this is what he's saying is because he says, 'It probably won't hurt anything unless you do it alot'. Meaning: Easing the slide forward isn't a good habit, and slamming the slide won't hurt anything unless you do it a a lot.


That's just he way I read it. I do understand English pretty well, and that's what it seems to say.

Can anyone get a clearer answer?

It seemed clear to me (it was my email). I asked about allowing the slide to slam forward; the answer is "this isn't a good habit to get into."

Further, and this was in my post as well, the manual says "ease it forward." Hardly an admonition against doing it.

As others have said, I can't for the life of me see what benefit there is from stressing the firearm by allowing the slide to slam forward.

It's like steel-belted radial tires. They're supposed to resist punctures, and they do, but does that mean you're going to actively find road hazards to continually test them with?

Of course not. You don't stress them any more than you need to, relying on their innate qualities to resist the infrequent time in which you cannot avoid a road hazard like a nail or piece of road debris.

If such a tire can resist 99 percent of road hazards, that's pretty good, and pretty reliable. But would I keep testing it knowing it has a 99 percent chance of resisting the hazard? Heck no!

As for me, I'm easing the slide forward. I see no reason to put the weapon under stress it doesn't need to experience.

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Sorry, I don't buy it. Maybe if you do it hundreds or thousands of times, then it might wear a little more, but the average person doing it, no, that's ridiculous.
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Sorry, I don't buy it. Maybe if you do it hundreds or thousands of times, then it might wear a little more, but the average person doing it, no, that's ridiculous.
I thinks that's exactly what the SA rep is talking about, those who may do it excessively.

For those that think the the force is the same when dropping the slide with a loaded magazine should do a little test. Drop the slide with a loaded mag and without. I tried this and you can feel the difference, whether this is detrimental to the life of the gun parts is a different issue. The chambering of a round does reduce the force of the slide. I'll say it again if it's not necessary why do it, just ease the slide forward when you have an empty chamber. Think of it as showing respect.
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