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Old 05-16-2008, 04:41 AM   #531
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I've seen the videos...so I'm paying an extra $200 for a slightly better barrel, more material removed around the mag release, and a slightly different grip?

Sorry, but that is NOT a new gun, like they've been advertising. Improved, sure...but most of those I would think SA would just do to the current lineup and charge a few extra bucks.
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Old 05-16-2008, 04:48 AM   #532
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I've seen the videos...so I'm paying an extra $200 for a slightly better barrel, more material removed around the mag release, and a slightly different grip?

Sorry, but that is NOT a new gun, like they've been advertising. Improved, sure...but most of those I would think SA would just do to the current lineup and charge a few extra bucks.
Glad some people agree with me. They call these things gimmicks.
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Old 05-16-2008, 05:18 AM   #533
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Nope, just stating that a 10mm wouldn't work on this frame, it would have to be a .45 frame.

I blasted a bunch of rounds downrange after making some trigger upgrades, and if Glock wants to sell .40's they better get off their butts. This thing shot GREAT!
So how long before you offer XD-M trigger jobs?
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Old 05-16-2008, 06:38 AM   #534
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As I previously stated, HK HANDGUNS are overrated and overpriced---and your videos do nothing to disprove my statement.
You are free to believe what you want, as are others. The P7 was not intended for military use - it was designed for police use. It was a gun ahead of it's time - striker fired, single action and very safe. The delayed blowback softens recoil but does heat the gun up.

I won't reiterate why the P7 is a great gun - the Cult of the P7 have an extensive list.

Made of exquiste machined steel, it was pricy in it's day - but no more so than a stock gun that has some custom work.
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The XD-M has the highest capacity of any .40 cal on the market, 16+1. If I were you, I'd trade in one of those old .40's and buy the much improved XD-M.

Yeah, I've got a Sig, Beretta, and now an XD40SC but I don't ever get rid of the guns. In my family, a gun is a family heirloom to be passed down from generation to generation. The only gun that has ever been sold in the family was a cheap black powder rifle I used for one season deer hunting. Other than that $150.00 rifle - nothing is sold. However, I've been wanting a .45 for a while so it would make a good excuse when it comes out. Who knows - I might still pick up the XD-m just so I can gloat that I've got more rounds than someone else can!
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Old 05-16-2008, 08:12 AM   #536
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That's a lotta extra money for what seems to be only a little extra product. For the difference in features, I'd go with the standard XD and pay less. The videos on Guntalk even turned me a little further off it. Not to disparage Guntalk by any means, but I think XD lost me when they made a big deal about how the new slide keeps your fingers from sliding off the gripping grooves. Uhhh.... yeah. And I don't like the replaceable backstrap. And I couldn't care less about pulling the trigger to disassemble the gun. As for the barrel, at my age and experience level, most any gun out there is mechanically capable of shooting better groups than I am able to take advantage of. Not that a better barrel is bad, but not worth me paying more for it. And if the barrel is that good, then that is probably where MOST of the extra cost is going.

I was thinking I might like to get one of these, but now I'm thinkin' nope. I'll still be waiting for the thumb safety to become more widely available.
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I don't know when. I assume that 9mm should be pretty easy -- same frame, etc.

The .45, though, may be a whole different thing. I'm betting they will do a .45, but if it requires a different frame, it could take some time. Springfield kept the XDm pretty quiet, and they are not letting out details of future developments.
If SA was a publicly traded company I would have bought stock a while ago. The new XDm is going to take the market by storm. I am very pleased with SA's ability to innovate and bring new products to market. SA needed a boost to the product line and the XD sure has been a shot in the arm.

My desire is SA releases the XDm in 9MM, 357 Sig and .45 ACP. You are right the frame is the same for .40 S&W, 9MM & 357 Sig we should see those calibers out in the near future. And would be a "No Brainer" for SA to release. The .45 may take more development time but they have already crossed that hurdle with the XD 45 and have done it once already.

I'm looking for more great things from SA this year.
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watched all 11 vids last night. good stuff


and whats gimmicky about it?
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Just to be clear . . . I'm pretty sure the 9mm will be next. I don't know when. I'm guessing it will be this year.

The .45 would appear to be logical, but I wouldn't be looking for it anytime soon. My guess is that they are going to sell all the .40's they can make. It looks different, I know, but it feels great. No kidding. When you shoot it, I think you'll like it.

Then again, SA has done some amazing production tricks in the past, so who knows when other calibers will come out.

I'll ask 'em on the radio show this Sunday!
I'm tuning in on Sunday. Thanks Tom.
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Thanks for posting that. After watching the videos, I would really like to take an XDM out and shoot it.
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