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ducttape2 · 05-03-2008, 10:33 AM

OK, let me start by saying... I am a noob and I am just looking for input from this group to help build my "intuition" regarding various issues that come up when packing. I will now don my asbestos suit...

So here are a couple situtations that may come up in my life that I want to make sure I am doing the best to balance the legal, SD and best practice concerns.

1) If I am planning on going to dinner, suit tie, going to a play or something, I will generally have wine with a nice dinner. I would not be in a bar or anything, but I would in fact have a few drinks. (Not doing shots or anything like that) My thought is, in that situation we are a pretty soft target for an attack. Walking around downtown at night dressed up, wife's jewlry etc. and so I really would want to have something for SD.

2) Get a call from a friend to go to happy hour. I normally have my weapon with me, would you just leave it in the vehicle? Unload it and take it in? I really don't want my peice to end up with a BG, no matter how small the risk.

Ok, I appreciate any feedback and practical insight. There may be other situations that are similar, please share.

Thanks

gr8johnson · 05-03-2008, 10:43 AM

I am in Mich. and the laws are very strict with carrying while drinking. .02 I believe is the limit, which is very low. Plus if you had it in your car loaded during a pull over and you were legal to drive but over that limit you will lose your license to carry. So you have to unload and separate the bullets from the gun. Another words I do not carry if I think I am going to drink. .02 is a very low number and it would not even seem like you were over that limit. I would not take the chance myself.

ivwarrior · 05-03-2008, 11:03 AM

Laws vary from state to state, you really need to check you local regulations. In some states, you're not allowed to carry anywhere that serves alcohol, even if you're not drinking. Other states, you're fine to carry in a bar while drinking. (Legally, we won't get into if it's a good idea or not)

**Se2002** · 05-03-2008, 11:09 AM

Can it be said that laws, in some situations, cloud judgement?

Maybe not.

**jnclement** · 05-03-2008, 11:19 AM

Depends on what state you live in. There isn't a national concealed carry law. In Texas, that would be a misdemeanor at best, and a potential felony. Been a while since I took my class, all I remember is don't carry if you drink.

**XDONBOARD** · 05-03-2008, 11:32 AM

in AZ, you can not carry anywhere that alcohol is served.

afmo · 05-03-2008, 11:44 AM

here's a good test i like to give people when they are carrying concealed and want to drink...

1) would you drive after drinking?
2) would you operate heavy machinery after drinking?
3) would you trust your safety, the safety of your family, and the safety of those nearby you to someone who has been drinking?

if you answered no to any of those questions, then i think you have your answer....obviously there is some grey area in those questions but i think you get the point...alcohol and guns don't mix..and if your in a situation where you need to defend yourself, do you really want your faculties impaired by alcohol?

**Houseboat** · 05-03-2008, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afmo

here's a good test i like to give people when they are carrying concealed and want to drink...

1) would you drive after drinking?
2) would you operate heavy machinery after drinking?
3) would you trust your safety, the safety of your family, and the safety of those nearby you to someone who has been drinking?

if you answered no to any of those questions, then i think you have your answer....obviously there is some grey area in those questions but i think you get the point...alcohol and guns don't mix..and if your in a situation where you need to defend yourself, do you really want your faculties impaired by alcohol?

Very well put..

tdyoung58 · 05-03-2008, 12:34 PM

If you carry with you . . . don't drink alcohol.

It's not worth the price if poopies impact the cooling apparatus.

StrykerDM · 05-03-2008, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afmo

if you answered no to any of those questions, then i think you have your answer....obviously there is some grey area in those questions but i think you get the point...alcohol and guns don't mix..and if your in a situation where you need to defend yourself, do you really want your faculties impaired by alcohol?

+1

As far as my knowledge, in any self defense situation, you OWN any bullet that leaves your weapon. Even though you're not drunk, a drink or two might be enough to sway your aim to a place it shouldn't be, putting others potentially in harm's way.

05-03-2008, 10:33 AM	#1
ducttape2 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Peoples Republic of Puget Sound Posts: 116	Concealed Carry Question OK, let me start by saying... I am a noob and I am just looking for input from this group to help build my "intuition" regarding various issues that come up when packing. I will now don my asbestos suit... So here are a couple situtations that may come up in my life that I want to make sure I am doing the best to balance the legal, SD and best practice concerns. 1) If I am planning on going to dinner, suit tie, going to a play or something, I will generally have wine with a nice dinner. I would not be in a bar or anything, but I would in fact have a few drinks. (Not doing shots or anything like that) My thought is, in that situation we are a pretty soft target for an attack. Walking around downtown at night dressed up, wife's jewlry etc. and so I really would want to have something for SD. 2) Get a call from a friend to go to happy hour. I normally have my weapon with me, would you just leave it in the vehicle? Unload it and take it in? I really don't want my peice to end up with a BG, no matter how small the risk. Ok, I appreciate any feedback and practical insight. There may be other situations that are similar, please share. Thanks

05-03-2008, 10:43 AM	#2
gr8johnson XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Clinton Township, Mchigan Posts: 181	I am in Mich. and the laws are very strict with carrying while drinking. .02 I believe is the limit, which is very low. Plus if you had it in your car loaded during a pull over and you were legal to drive but over that limit you will lose your license to carry. So you have to unload and separate the bullets from the gun. Another words I do not carry if I think I am going to drink. .02 is a very low number and it would not even seem like you were over that limit. I would not take the chance myself. __________________ Major Jack Reacher for President

05-03-2008, 11:09 AM	#4
Se2002 XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ALABAMA Posts: 641	Can it be said that laws, in some situations, cloud judgement? Maybe not. __________________ If the prospect of having your thumb hit by the bolt is unacceptable do not attempt to load your Garand.

05-03-2008, 11:19 AM	#5
jnclement XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: West Texas Posts: 2,253	Depends on what state you live in. There isn't a national concealed carry law. In Texas, that would be a misdemeanor at best, and a potential felony. Been a while since I took my class, all I remember is don't carry if you drink. __________________ Contrary to what sells magazines, not all of us are, or want to be SpecOps, SEAL, Recon, Delta, CQB, Ninja, firearm-knife-tactical-death-touch instructors.

05-03-2008, 11:32 AM	#6
XDONBOARD XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: North Peoria, AZ Posts: 3,270	in AZ, you can not carry anywhere that alcohol is served. __________________ Michael XD-45 compact XD-40 sub-compact XD-9 sub-compact I'd rather have my XD and not need it, then need it and not have it.... I hereby certify that the person described hereon has been granted the privilege of carrying a concealed weapon in compliance with Arizona revised statute 13-3112.

05-03-2008, 11:03 AM	#3
ivwarrior XDTalk Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: central PA Posts: 58	Laws vary from state to state, you really need to check you local regulations. In some states, you're not allowed to carry anywhere that serves alcohol, even if you're not drinking. Other states, you're fine to carry in a bar while drinking. (Legally, we won't get into if it's a good idea or not)

05-03-2008, 11:44 AM	#7
afmo XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,390	here's a good test i like to give people when they are carrying concealed and want to drink... 1) would you drive after drinking? 2) would you operate heavy machinery after drinking? 3) would you trust your safety, the safety of your family, and the safety of those nearby you to someone who has been drinking? if you answered no to any of those questions, then i think you have your answer....obviously there is some grey area in those questions but i think you get the point...alcohol and guns don't mix..and if your in a situation where you need to defend yourself, do you really want your faculties impaired by alcohol? __________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to eat for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb protesting the vote. - Benjamin Franklin Mii Fit - My Daily Blog and and My Experiences with Wii Fit. Ruger 22/45 MKIII Springfield XD-9 Service Stevens Model 67 Series E 12g 1948 M44 Mosin-Nagant

05-03-2008, 12:34 PM	#9
tdyoung58 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Central PA Posts: 220	If you carry with you . . . don't drink alcohol. It's not worth the price if poopies impact the cooling apparatus. __________________ Guns kill people the same way a spoon made my ar$e fat My "other" auto is a .45ACP

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