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Delija · 07-15-2005, 10:50 AM

You have never shot a revolver and this is the gun you want to start with?

Do yourself a big favor...shoot one before you buy one. If you can't find a snub nosed .357 in titanium, just shoot a steel one and figure a titanium will have a significantly greater amount of recoil (and probably muzzle flip as well).

A short barrel magnum is not a fun thing to shoot. A titanium frame only makes it even more punishing. This combination of light weight and short barrel seems like the most unappealing possible platform for a .357 magnum load. Really....I don't think you would enjoy shooting the full loads at all. Also for CCW in your pocket, the 7 round cylinder would (I'm just guessing here) be pretty wide.

For a pocket gun you might want to consider a hammerless revolver. I would certainly talk to someone who is more informed. A good gun shop with a decent selection of revolvers should have at least one person on staff who knows what they are talking about and can explain and show you the advantages and disadvantages of the different configurations.

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Originally Posted by RonS

. Since the bore diameters are the same (within a thousandth or so), holding the case in position to be fired and then extracting it is the main technical issue. I don't know how they are doing it, perhaps something that snaps into the extraction groove in the case and holds the rimless cases against the recoil shield.

The guns use a "moon clip" to hold the 9mm casings in place.

Peace,
D.

Unbeliever · 07-15-2005, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jkswiss

They have one out that shoots .357Mag, .38 Special, and get this, 9mm.

just to let you know, it doesnt shoot all of those out of one gun.

the "9mm/.38/.357" means thats the calibers you can get it in.

That's not what the info on the web site indicates:

"The Traid can use 3 calibers interchangeably; .38/357 magnum, 9 mm and the .38 Super."

SLCDave · 07-15-2005, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delija

You have never shot a revolver and this is the gun you want to start with?

Do yourself a big favor...shoot one before you buy one. If you can't find a snub nosed .357 in titanium, just shoot a steel one and figure a titanium will have a significantly greater amount of recoil (and probably muzzle flip as well).

A short barrel magnum is not a fun thing to shoot. A titanium frame only makes it even more punishing. This combination of light weight and short barrel seems like the most unappealing possible platform for a .357 magnum load. Really....I don't think you would enjoy shooting the full loads at all. Also for CCW in your pocket, the 7 round cylinder would (I'm just guessing here) be pretty wide.

For a pocket gun you might want to consider a hammerless revolver. I would certainly talk to someone who is more informed. A good gun shop with a decent selection of revolvers should have at least one person on staff who knows what they are talking about and can explain and show you the advantages and disadvantages of the different configurations.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonS

. Since the bore diameters are the same (within a thousandth or so), holding the case in position to be fired and then extracting it is the main technical issue. I don't know how they are doing it, perhaps something that snaps into the extraction groove in the case and holds the rimless cases against the recoil shield.

The guns use a "moon clip" to hold the 9mm casings in place.

Peace,
D.

Delija makes some good points. Short barrel=greater muzzle flip. Light weight=greater recoil. .357 magnum + short barrel + light weight = not much fun to shoot. I won't knock your choice, if that's REALLY what you want, but it sounds like you could use a little revolver experience to base your decision on. I'd never recommend anything shorter than a 3" (4" is even better) barrel to someone new to shooting, or unfamiliar with a .357. I also wouldn't recommend the airweight stuff either. See if you can shoot some to get a feel for what you want, and base your decision on that.

As for that Triad thing, do yourself a favor and get a gun that does one thing, and does it well. Don't let your first revolver be some gimmicky thing that tries too hard to do too many things.

mattsnuked · 07-15-2005, 11:34 AM

I just picked an S&W 642 in 38 special for summer ccw and I really like it. It is made of aluminum and holds 5 rounds, this can easily fit in my pocket and I can almost forget I even have it on. Shooting WWB and especially some +p will get your hand tired in a hurry. I am glad I didn't get a 357. This might be an option for you, I picked it up for $360 OTD.
Here's a pic off the website.

Delija · 07-15-2005, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SLCDave

As for that Triad thing, do yourself a favor and get a gun that does one thing, and does it well. Don't let your first revolver be some gimmicky thing that tries too hard to do too many things.

+1

SLC Dave is right. Get something that does what it's designed to do and does it well. A Swiss Army Knife is a great thing, but it doesn't do any one thing particularly well. If I were you I would think about exactly what purpose you want the gun to serve and go from there.

One other thing that was not mentioned about a snub nosed .357- if you ever had to use it other than on a range, after one shot you will be virtually deaf for a few moments. Something to think about. Having a gun in your hand and not hearing what's going on around you can be a very bad thing.

The shorter the barrel, the louder the gun. A .357 is a very loud gun with a long barrel. I don't think I've ever had the pleasure of hearing a snub nosed .357, but I imagine it's about as loud as a small nuke. My XD9 Sub is exactly as loud as my full size (five inch barrel) .45 caliber 1911.

Peace,
D.

SLCDave · 07-15-2005, 12:49 PM

Taurus makes good, affordable guns. They also make some gimmicky things, like that Triad, and a .410 revolver, to name a couple. I'm not saying the Triad is a bad gun, because I have no experience with it. I just think it's more of a "toy", for lack of a better word. Something to show the boys at the range. The .410 revolver would be a good snake shooter.

crewsr · 07-17-2005, 08:55 PM

The taurus model TRIAD-627SS does have "9mm/38sp/.357" printed on the barrel!!!!!! I thinkin you can shoot all three through this thing. If so I just found my primary, wife-friendly, home defense handgun.

RonC · 07-17-2005, 09:26 PM

One of my shooting partners bought a S&W scandium, 357 revolver, the very light weight snub nose.
Not only is it uncomfortable to shoot, but the snap back after recoil is enough to jar the bullet from the casing, jamming the cylinder! That's right, he shot 2 rounds and the cylinder jammed. A bullet had separated from the casing and lodged against the frame!
Night time shooting was also disagreeable. The muzzle flash was so great that we couldn't see a thing after a shot.
Personally, I went with the S&W 642 shooting 38 spl +p. As another poster said, it is light and conceals in my pleated pants front pocket. It only carries five rounds, but I'm fine with that.

Ron

Krackels · 07-17-2005, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jkswiss

You might want to check out another one of the Taurus revolvers.

They have one out that shoots .357Mag, .38 Special, and get this, 9mm.
I plan on trading in my Taurus 66 for this one.

http://www.taurususa.com/products/pr...egory=Revolver
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Oh baby I think I see a backup gun. My head is swimming with the possibilities of sharing ammo for my XD9.

retired · 07-18-2005, 01:36 AM

Re the snub nose not being as accurate, I'd have to disagree, at least as far as my revolver goes. I have a S&W 66 stainless 2" 6 shot 357mag that also shoots 38.

It is just as accurate as the S&W blue 38 sp I used on duty for 14yrs. I didn't find the recoil a problem whether it was 38 or 357. Admittedly, I didn't shoot 200 rounds of 357 at one time. I bought the gun in '78 and it almost looks brand new. I also like the red front sight; my old eyes need all the help it can get.

I can't help you with the Taurus as I have never shot one, but I have heard they are good guns.

07-15-2005, 12:49 PM	#36
SLCDave XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 1,980	Taurus makes good, affordable guns. They also make some gimmicky things, like that Triad, and a .410 revolver, to name a couple. I'm not saying the Triad is a bad gun, because I have no experience with it. I just think it's more of a "toy", for lack of a better word. Something to show the boys at the range. The .410 revolver would be a good snake shooter. __________________ We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate. Thomas Jefferson Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

07-17-2005, 08:55 PM	#37
crewsr XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1	wow The taurus model TRIAD-627SS does have "9mm/38sp/.357" printed on the barrel!!!!!! I thinkin you can shoot all three through this thing. If so I just found my primary, wife-friendly, home defense handgun.

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07-15-2005, 11:34 AM	#34
mattsnuked XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Phoenix Posts: 233	I just picked an S&W 642 in 38 special for summer ccw and I really like it. It is made of aluminum and holds 5 rounds, this can easily fit in my pocket and I can almost forget I even have it on. Shooting WWB and especially some +p will get your hand tired in a hurry. I am glad I didn't get a 357. This might be an option for you, I picked it up for $360 OTD. Here's a pic off the website.

07-17-2005, 09:26 PM	#38
RonC XDTalk Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Golden, CO Posts: 55	One of my shooting partners bought a S&W scandium, 357 revolver, the very light weight snub nose. Not only is it uncomfortable to shoot, but the snap back after recoil is enough to jar the bullet from the casing, jamming the cylinder! That's right, he shot 2 rounds and the cylinder jammed. A bullet had separated from the casing and lodged against the frame! Night time shooting was also disagreeable. The muzzle flash was so great that we couldn't see a thing after a shot. Personally, I went with the S&W 642 shooting 38 spl +p. As another poster said, it is light and conceals in my pleated pants front pocket. It only carries five rounds, but I'm fine with that. Ron

07-18-2005, 01:36 AM	#40
retired XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: S. Calif. Posts: 5,599	Re the snub nose not being as accurate, I'd have to disagree, at least as far as my revolver goes. I have a S&W 66 stainless 2" 6 shot 357mag that also shoots 38. It is just as accurate as the S&W blue 38 sp I used on duty for 14yrs. I didn't find the recoil a problem whether it was 38 or 357. Admittedly, I didn't shoot 200 rounds of 357 at one time. I bought the gun in '78 and it almost looks brand new. I also like the red front sight; my old eyes need all the help it can get. I can't help you with the Taurus as I have never shot one, but I have heard they are good guns.