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HAPINAZZ · 05-02-2008, 10:42 AM

Does anyone know where i can get a stand off device for my XD's and other semi autos. I know the guide rods in the XD's act as a stand off device but you have to put it at bit of angle for the gun not to go out of battery and under pressure during a hostage situation, that is not going to happen. I also know i can use a gun light as a stand off device but i don't plan on having one attached to my gun while on duty.

tomfoolery · 05-02-2008, 10:48 AM

Anything you put on the rail as a stand off device is going to limit your holster use.....and if your gonna do that you might as well rock a light.

Baldy · 05-02-2008, 11:12 AM

What is a stand off device?

hardwarz · 05-02-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Baldy

What is a stand off device?

A stand off device is any device that forces the muzzle of the barrle away from the intended target.

On this Mossberg, it has a stand off device (used for blowing off locks)

Hardwarz

**Rustynuts** · 05-02-2008, 01:54 PM

Um, I'd say any revolver, rifle or shotgun doesn't need a standoff device to fire like a semi-auto does!

spamlovr · 05-02-2008, 08:35 PM

Why would get close enough to someone else with a gun in their hand when the other person is not compliant? Don't firearms allow distance, and isn't a little distance good when dealing with a deadly confrontation?

As far hostage situations, isn't that what more precise firearms are for, say a sub-gun like an MP5 or an assault rifle like a short barrel AR?

HAPINAZZ · 05-02-2008, 11:33 PM

I've done some training where you are required to close the distance were the most of the time your immediate firearm is on your hip forget the rifle and shotgun that is in the patrol car. You don't have time to run back and get the long guns, you need to handle it now.

**Rustynuts** · 05-03-2008, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by spamlovr

Why would get close enough to someone else with a gun in their hand when the other person is not compliant? Don't firearms allow distance, and isn't a little distance good when dealing with a deadly confrontation?

Um, what if someone surprises you and you're fighting close quarters? Lot's of scenarios could play out where you'd need a "belly gun". Not all BG's are going to stand still like your paper target!

Wild Rice · 05-03-2008, 04:35 AM

I found what you are looking for. All you need to do is buy a CZ-75 pistol (with rail) and you can attach this handy dandy tactical block/bayonet accessory. The coroner will have fun figuring out the injuries inflicted with this weapon. But seriously, you can attach the tactical block without the knife and it will act as a stand off device. The gun cannot be muzzle pushed out of battery. The jagged front end will also allow you to punch through a car window. So if you are ever called upon to assist someone who has locked their keys in their car.....

Cumminalong · 05-03-2008, 06:07 AM

The only "easy" thing I could think of, and this is if you have a service model, is to put a 5" full length guide rod in it.

It would stick out past the muzzle by 1", but it would serve the purpose.

Just use the standard 4" springs and it would work just fine.

Wouldn't be able to knock the gun out of battery and if you have an open bottom holster, it would work with it.

05-02-2008, 10:42 AM	#1
HAPINAZZ XDTalk Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: LAS VEGAS Posts: 50	Stand off device Does anyone know where i can get a stand off device for my XD's and other semi autos. I know the guide rods in the XD's act as a stand off device but you have to put it at bit of angle for the gun not to go out of battery and under pressure during a hostage situation, that is not going to happen. I also know i can use a gun light as a stand off device but i don't plan on having one attached to my gun while on duty. __________________ EVERY PLAN HAS A PLAN, EVERY OPERATION HAS AN OPERATION JUST WHEN THINGS ARE ALMOST READY TO GO ALWAYS PLAN FOR \"MURPHY\" CAUSE YOUR ALWAYS ON HIS LIST. FERENGI RULES OF AQUISISTION #44 \"NEVER CONFUSE WISOM WITH LUCK\"

05-02-2008, 10:48 AM	#2
tomfoolery XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 4,640	Anything you put on the rail as a stand off device is going to limit your holster use.....and if your gonna do that you might as well rock a light. __________________ "It is better to die on your feet than live on your knees." "One is none, two is one, and three is just a good time." Clint Smith, referring to the number of guns you carry daily.

05-02-2008, 11:12 AM	#3
Baldy XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 106	What is a stand off device? __________________ XD45C bi-tone 450 rnds

05-02-2008, 08:35 PM	#6
spamlovr XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Washougal, WA كافر Posts: 489	Why would get close enough to someone else with a gun in their hand when the other person is not compliant? Don't firearms allow distance, and isn't a little distance good when dealing with a deadly confrontation? As far hostage situations, isn't that what more precise firearms are for, say a sub-gun like an MP5 or an assault rifle like a short barrel AR? __________________ Memento Mori (Remember, you are mortal) When seconds count, the police are only minutes away! People who are pissed at the government have generally underestimated their neighbors. Ziltoid The Omniscient for Supreme World Ruler 2008: "I am so omniscient, if there were 2 omniscient beings in the omniverse, I would be both of them! Bring me your planet's finest cup of coffee!"

05-02-2008, 11:33 PM	#7
HAPINAZZ XDTalk Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: LAS VEGAS Posts: 50	I've done some training where you are required to close the distance were the most of the time your immediate firearm is on your hip forget the rifle and shotgun that is in the patrol car. You don't have time to run back and get the long guns, you need to handle it now. __________________ EVERY PLAN HAS A PLAN, EVERY OPERATION HAS AN OPERATION JUST WHEN THINGS ARE ALMOST READY TO GO ALWAYS PLAN FOR \"MURPHY\" CAUSE YOUR ALWAYS ON HIS LIST. FERENGI RULES OF AQUISISTION #44 \"NEVER CONFUSE WISOM WITH LUCK\"

05-02-2008, 01:54 PM	#5
Rustynuts XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,328	Um, I'd say any revolver, rifle or shotgun doesn't need a standoff device to fire like a semi-auto does!

05-03-2008, 04:35 AM	#9
Wild Rice XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 188	I found what you are looking for. All you need to do is buy a CZ-75 pistol (with rail) and you can attach this handy dandy tactical block/bayonet accessory. The coroner will have fun figuring out the injuries inflicted with this weapon. But seriously, you can attach the tactical block without the knife and it will act as a stand off device. The gun cannot be muzzle pushed out of battery. The jagged front end will also allow you to punch through a car window. So if you are ever called upon to assist someone who has locked their keys in their car..... Last edited by Wild Rice; 05-03-2008 at 04:40 AM.

05-03-2008, 06:07 AM	#10
Cumminalong XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Phenix City, AL Posts: 181	The only "easy" thing I could think of, and this is if you have a service model, is to put a 5" full length guide rod in it. It would stick out past the muzzle by 1", but it would serve the purpose. Just use the standard 4" springs and it would work just fine. Wouldn't be able to knock the gun out of battery and if you have an open bottom holster, it would work with it. __________________ *XD9 Tactical (PistolGear Pimp )* - Pistol Gear drop-in barrel, Trijicon Sights, tungsten guide rod, SP sear and trigger, lots of polished parts *XD40 Sub-Comp (Everyday Carry Gun)* - Trijicon sights, SP sear and trigger bar, X2L, 165 gr Federal HST's *XD40 Service (Only thing stock is the serial number)* - Bar-Sto barrel, SP sear and trigger bar, Tungsten guide rod and spring, Dawson Precision sights, Operator magwell, lots of polished parts *XD45ACP Service* - TFO sights and 230 gr Federal HST's

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