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XD BACKUP GUN · 07-15-2005, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by locosteelersfan

Sorry manygunner but your conspiracy theory doesn't apply to me.

Hmmm...looks kinda familiar.

http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?...hreadid=406638

Hmmmmmmm yes it does...........

**loonybin** · 07-15-2005, 07:53 PM

about the time that SA took over importing the gun, the finish seemed to go to hell in a handbasket. How many HS2000s were having rust issues? I honestly don't remember any. The biggest gripe was the extractor back then.

DJDan · 07-15-2005, 07:58 PM

I don't use and "special wonder products on my gun that does who knows what." I am also a maintanence nut about EVERYTHING I own.

If my XD is rusting it is not because I am doing something wrong. It is because the finish is not as tough as it should be....end of story.

M1Thumb · 07-15-2005, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DJDan

If my XD is rusting it is not because I am doing something wrong. It is because the finish is not as tough as it should be....end of story.

So if your blued shotgun rusts it's because the finish isn't as tough as it should be? What you're really saying is that if a gun rusts, it's because the finish isn't as tough as you think it should be. Those are different things.

My point is that the XD has a finish that is marginally tougher than bluing, which has been around forever, and with which no one seems to ever have had a problem. And on this forum we've got people that act like Springfield tried their hardest to come up with the most inferior finish in the world, totally ignoring the fact that people have been sucessfully maintaining bluing for years. The XD finish isn't my favorite, but it's not "defective" just because it's not Tennifer.

demented · 07-15-2005, 10:03 PM

Your particular gun doesn't rust, lucky you. Mine does. I've owned literally dozens of rifles, shotguns and pistols the past 40 years, for someone to try to tell me I don't know how to maintain a firearm is absurd.

**Frenchy** · 07-15-2005, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by M1Thumb

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Originally Posted by DJDan

If my XD is rusting it is not because I am doing something wrong. It is because the finish is not as tough as it should be....end of story.

So if your blued shotgun rusts it's because the finish isn't as tough as it should be? What you're really saying is that if a gun rusts, it's because the finish isn't as tough as you think it should be. Those are different things.

My point is that the XD has a finish that is marginally tougher than bluing, which has been around forever, and with which no one seems to ever have had a problem. And on this forum we've got people that act like Springfield tried their hardest to come up with the most inferior finish in the world, totally ignoring the fact that people have been sucessfully maintaining bluing for years. The XD finish isn't my favorite, but it's not "defective" just because it's not Tennifer.

First of all!...Springfield didn't come up with anything. The finish was developed and applied at IM Metals. My best guess is that it isn't the finish so much as a lack of consistancy in preparing the metal and application. That would maybe answer some of the questions as to why some have rusting problems, and some don't.

Packin'Plastic · 07-16-2005, 08:24 AM

While its relatively new...my XD gets handled & sweated on daily. Absolutely no signs of rust. I do lightly wipe it down with an oily (FP-10) rag each night before it rest on the nightstand beside me. No problems whatsoever. Mine may be one of the lucky ones. It has a deep black finish with no "thin" spots at all. Very nice tactical finish. So far its been equal to the holy grail tenifer finish that was on my two E series (

) Glocks that I sold. Actually its a quite nicer finish than what was on my Kimber TLE. Truthfully the XD is somewhat a "budget" pistol and I have no quarrels at all about any of the fit/finish/function. Top rate I must say and I've had a lot to compare it to!

cekxd40 · 07-16-2005, 12:15 PM

I agree with frenchy...like i said the only plae mine rusted was in the rear dovetail...i pain to clean out....the rest of the slide was fine...including a 2" scratch I put on the top of the slide (it didnt go down to metal but still weakened finish)...all i ever did was rem oil and wipe with a silicone cloth.

I think frenchy is on the money.

But still...saturate and let your slide soak in a good oil then apply your finishing product whatever that maybe...force any moisture out of the finish.

a1XD9 · 07-16-2005, 03:54 PM

from what i hear on this board and other forums springfield armory customer service is getting bad.

Vampire · 07-16-2005, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by M1Thumb

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Originally Posted by DJDan

If my XD is rusting it is not because I am doing something wrong. It is because the finish is not as tough as it should be....end of story.

So if your blued shotgun rusts it's because the finish isn't as tough as it should be? What you're really saying is that if a gun rusts, it's because the finish isn't as tough as you think it should be. Those are different things.

My point is that the XD has a finish that is marginally tougher than bluing,. . .

Again, I'll have to disagree.

My first handgun was (is) a 586 S&W with a blued finish. That gun is about 10 years old, has 1 minor scratch and not a whit of rust. My XD is far younger than that, lives on the shelf right next door to that 586 (and a S.A. park 1911 -also rust free-) and is the ONLY gun that has rust. That also includes several firearms that shoot Corrosive ammo. I know how to care for guns. This thing just atracts rust.

Come on man,
*Dozens of guns (Several C&R's),
*Wide variety of finishes,
*Multiple manufacturers and Nationalities,
*All living in the SAME envioronment
* Only XD comes up dusted red

It's MY fault? Come on man, the only variable is the XD's dainty finish.

07-15-2005, 07:53 PM	#32
loonybin XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: central Kansas Posts: 1,564	about the time that SA took over importing the gun, the finish seemed to go to hell in a handbasket. How many HS2000s were having rust issues? I honestly don't remember any. The biggest gripe was the extractor back then. __________________ Tempus fugit. Frater, memento mori. Happy is what you make it -- always has been, always will be.

07-16-2005, 12:15 PM	#38
cekxd40 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 324	I agree with frenchy...like i said the only plae mine rusted was in the rear dovetail...i pain to clean out....the rest of the slide was fine...including a 2" scratch I put on the top of the slide (it didnt go down to metal but still weakened finish)...all i ever did was rem oil and wipe with a silicone cloth. I think frenchy is on the money. But still...saturate and let your slide soak in a good oil then apply your finishing product whatever that maybe...force any moisture out of the finish. __________________ \"All men have fear. The brave ones lay it down and go forward. Some unto death, but all to VICTORY\" - The Kings Guard of Ancient Greece Springfield XD-40 4\" service Springfield 1911-A1 G.I. 45

07-16-2005, 03:54 PM	#39
a1XD9 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: IL, FL Posts: 192	from what i hear on this board and other forums springfield armory customer service is getting bad. __________________ Signature

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07-15-2005, 07:58 PM	#33
DJDan XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,338	I don't use and "special wonder products on my gun that does who knows what." I am also a maintanence nut about EVERYTHING I own. If my XD is rusting it is not because I am doing something wrong. It is because the finish is not as tough as it should be....end of story.

07-15-2005, 10:03 PM	#35
demented XDTalk Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: L.A. (lower Arkansas) Posts: 97	Your particular gun doesn't rust, lucky you. Mine does. I've owned literally dozens of rifles, shotguns and pistols the past 40 years, for someone to try to tell me I don't know how to maintain a firearm is absurd.

07-16-2005, 08:24 AM	#37
Packin'Plastic XDTalk Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NC Posts: 40	While its relatively new...my XD gets handled & sweated on daily. Absolutely no signs of rust. I do lightly wipe it down with an oily (FP-10) rag each night before it rest on the nightstand beside me. No problems whatsoever. Mine may be one of the lucky ones. It has a deep black finish with no "thin" spots at all. Very nice tactical finish. So far its been equal to the holy grail tenifer finish that was on my two E series ( ) Glocks that I sold. Actually its a quite nicer finish than what was on my Kimber TLE. Truthfully the XD is somewhat a "budget" pistol and I have no quarrels at all about any of the fit/finish/function. Top rate I must say and I've had a lot to compare it to!