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Old 07-11-2005, 09:36 PM   #21
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I keep hearing about rust and I guess if its happening then fine BUT I have NEVER seen a photo showing the "finish" problems

and I have not had a single problem

if you have pics lets see them.
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:36 AM   #22
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Rest assured, there are pictures of rusted XD's on this forum.

XD's are infamous with the Glocksters for rusting. Honestly, there are some batches of XD's out there that start rusting when you look at em.

Do a search and I'm sure you'll find them.

I haven't heard too much about the SS models rusting, but I don't think that this is the first time someones mentioned it.

I seem to remember this quote from somewhere, "stainless is STAIN LESS"
as in it stains less than carbon steel I suppose, but still does stain.

I for one, can handle my XD bitone, touch the slide and what not, put it away for weeks at a time, and still be rust free. I can do that with my black XD too for that matter.

Some of us got lucky, and some of us didn't.

Hehe, suckers.
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I lost alot of finish on my XD9 sub within weeks. I live in a very dry climate but carry it daily very close to the body. The only real rust problem occured on the ends of the smaller drift pins, a place I never looked at before, the back of the slide seems to start the suface rust first? Just have to watch it closely and take care of the slight surface rust.
Same on XD 357, just haven't carried it as much.

Does anyone know what the quality of the new finish is, if ya send one back to Springfield ? They said they would take care of it but am wondering if it's a better finnish ???
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Old 07-12-2005, 03:34 AM   #24
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Do many of you who have rusting issues live in a humid area? I live in Colorado...very dry...hopefully it helps.
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live in the Houston area, and to be honest, i havent encountered any rust, and humidity is a serious factor here, it .....
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How is it that I have not seen a speck of rust on my XD-40 Service at all and I live in horribly hot and humid Houston .....
Are all you rust people carrying in an IWB holster? I am not and I wonder if thats the problem.
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Nope. I carry IWB everyday and I have no rust problems. Not even in area's where the finish is completely rubbed off from holster wear.
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There are like five different grades of stainless steel. On a 450.00 gun it ain't likely you got one of the better grades.
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Rest assured, there are pictures of rusted XD's on this forum.
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Some of us got lucky, and some of us didn't.
Sure are a lot of people from Houston on this board!!!

I think jkswiss really has the only logical answer. Some of us got lucky and some didn't.

I live in South Florida and have never had any rust issues. Salt water spray, constant humidity, etc, and no rust.

It seems obvious from the inconsistency that there is a quality control issue when it comes to the finish. No news here. But other than the finish, as OEFM (from Houston...we are over-run by these guys) says, there are different grades of stainless; as well as different grades of steel. Is it possible some of us are getting a different grade of metal used in our slides? Both stainless and non stainless?

OEFM mentioned that his gun doesn't rust even where the finish is worn off. How can that be when others have rust on unworn finishes?

Hit or miss. Luck? The good news is that in a fairly recent poll done on this site, 95% of the owners have no rust problems. But this is no comfort to the 5% that do. What is reassuring is that SA stands behind their products and will re-finish a slide that rusts.

I can't understand why so many seem to think it's necessary to send their guns out to other places for re-finishing when they can get it for free from SA.

I also cannot understand AT ALL why some people will pay to have their XDs refinished before a hint of trouble. It should be apparent that there is a very high (95% seems high to me) likelihood that a new XD will not require a new finish. Fixing what ain't broke never makes sense. Paying to do it makes even less sense. To each their own I guess..

Again, after reading OEFM's post that his gun won't rust with NO finish makes me wonder if the QC is about more than just the finish. Can it be some of us are getting slides made with different grades of steel? I don't know what the proprietary Bruniral finish is on XDs. I do know that bluing is really just a kind of "pre-rust" process. Maybe the rust issue is not about the finish at all, but about the metal?



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I've only had mine XD-40 a week and did notice a little rust after a couple of days in the rear serrations on the slide. I cleaned it real good and wipe it down after carrying in or handling it with one of those silicon/teflon rags and haven't seen anymore problems. I know everybody seems to think this is a huge problem,but I can remember may dad telling me to always wipe down any blued gun after handling it. I will say I am a little disappointed with the finish, as even my kel tec seems to have a better finish with daily carry for over a year, but a little TLC and it will be fine. I may send it in for an Armory Cote when I get some extra cash, but until then, I'll just have to baby it a little.
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This thread caught my eye because of the passivating suggestion. I don't know if there would be any interest, but I work with a small company that developed a non-toxic (less toxic than citric or nitric acid) stainless steel passivating solution for the food industry. It has the same properties of removing all impurities.

I'll try to get more info on it, but since I my XD40 isn't SS I can't try it out myself
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I lost alot of finish on my XD9 sub within weeks. I live in a very dry climate but carry it daily very close to the body. The only real rust problem occured on the ends of the smaller drift pins, a place I never looked at before, the back of the slide seems to start the suface rust first? Just have to watch it closely and take care of the slight surface rust.
Same on XD 357, just haven't carried it as much.

Does anyone know what the quality of the new finish is, if ya send one back to Springfield ? They said they would take care of it but am wondering if it's a better finnish ???
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You would think that SA would refinish the gun under warranty especially is the finish was wearing off after only a few weeks and even more so if the slide was rusting because of it. Has anyone tried this approach with SA?
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You would think that SA would refinish the gun under warranty especially is the finish was wearing off after only a few weeks and even more so if the slide was rusting because of it. Has anyone tried this approach with SA?
I don't mean to be harsh....but you have two posts (that should be one)and you are asking a question that has not only been answered hundreds of times, which you could see if you used the search function, but it's been answered in THIS THREAD. So yes, once again....SA does refinish guns that rust due to a poor finish. They do it under warranty. They pay for shipping.

Really...try reading at least some part of the threads you are going to participate in.

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This thread caught my eye because of the passivating suggestion. I don't know if there would be any interest, but I work with a small company that developed a non-toxic (less toxic than citric or nitric acid) stainless steel passivating solution for the food industry. It has the same properties of removing all impurities.

I'll try to get more info on it, but since I my XD40 isn't SS I can't try it out myself
I am interested, even without owning a stainless XD. I just like learning about processes. I may be able to apply them at work someday too, so all resources are good!
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