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XD Comparison to Glock
Hey guys this is a long post but one I thinkk is well worth it, if you ask me so here it is.
XD vs. GLOCK Comparing the Service size and compact models. Which one? This is a question that is being seen more and more on internet discussion boards, from the crowds at the shooting ranges and the inquisitive consumer at the gun store. Both are polymer handguns with similar trigger systems and both are fired by an internal striker mechanism rather than a traditional hammer. Both have a cult like following and strong loyal supporters. The question that is being asked the most is: Which gun is better and what are the differences between each model and what do these differences mean? The other question that being asked is which gun is more reliable and is it possible to conclude that one model is superior over the other right out of the box? And if one is does that mean the other is not the right choice? I am not sure if my personal study of these guns will matter to you but I am going to attempt to answer some of these questions and by its conclusion I will give you my personal choice for carry if I were force to pick one over the other and explain my reasons for doing so. I have to admit right off that I like both guns. I have owned various Springfield XD models for the last several years to include the service size 9mm, compact 9mm and the .40 S&W. I have owned various Glock's throughout the years to include models in the following calibers: 9mm, 10mm, .40 S&W, 45ACP. I have shot these guns thousands of times and appreciate the differences between both models and have come to the conclusion that these are not carbon copies of each other. After studying the both the service size models and the compact guns from both companies I would like to offer a head-to-head comparison of certain attributes from both guns and sort out some of the differences that may matter to you and possibly help decide which company offers the better combat handgun. The Glock or the Springfield XD? Striker System. First of all let's look at the most controversial question that comes up between the two camps. Is the Glock's "double action only" (DAO) designation safer than the XD's BATF designation as a "single action" gun? Glock likes to point out that their pistols are DAO only striker systems and therefore are more attractive to litigious conscious law enforcement administrators and personal consumers. Springfield says hogwash, that the actions though not completely similar are just as safe as the Glock. The fact of the matter is that both guns are perfectly safe until one pulls the trigger. Recently, American Handgunner had an excellent article in their 2005 Annual by Charles Petty. In the article Mr. Petty goes on to report that Springfield Armory commissioned the well-known independent consulting firm, Tioga Engineering of Wellsboro, PA to compare both the Glock and the XD striker systems. The reason was to see if Glock's partially loaded striker system was safer than the XD's pre-loaded striker system. The results were conclusive. The firing pin safety of both models prevents the weapon from discharging until the trigger is pulled so neither gun was superior to the other in this regard. In fact, the article goes on to report that the Glock fired 100% of the time from its normal preloaded level if not for the firing pin safety. The bottom line is that both systems are safe no matter which action they are labeled to have and neither striker system is inherently safer over the other. No matter what the controversy there is over its trigger designation the only way that these weapons will fire is if the trigger is pulled. This is an easy tie. Sights: The XD's sights are made of metal and the Glock sights are plastic. The Glock sights have the potential to wear away if you're practice drawing and re-holstering a lot and these sights are probably the least durable part of an otherwise very durable pistol. The XD sights are the common white 3-dot design and the Glock has a larger white dot front sight with a white wide base rear sight. Both The XD and the Glock have dovetail fixed rear sights so they're drift adjustable. Glock offers an adjustable rear sight in their "Practical Tactical" models 34 & 35. Both companies offer optional sights and of course lets not forget the plethora of after-market sight systems available but this category is addressing the standard models "right out of the box". I like the durability of the XD's metal sights. I score this for the XD. Slide: I think the issue in deciding which slide is better will come down to one of two things. Do you prefer a slide with "nice to have options" or would you rather have a finish that is virtually rust proof and scratch resistant? The XD has three options that they like to advertise; forward cocking serrations, a loaded chamber and active firing pin indicator. Regarding the forward cocking serrations I have found that people either love them or hate 'em. I personally like them though I feel the forward serrations on my 1911's are superior to the XD's. If forward press checking is an important element of your training you may like the XD. I spent several weeks at a training school press checking two Glocks, which does not have forward cocking serrations and though the purchase was not as secure as the XD's I was able to do this without too much difficulty. As far as the indicators go I feel they are unnecessary and just two more things to break. In fact, my XD 9mm loaded chamber indicator once got stuck in the "loaded" position when some fouling built up and I had to detail strip and clean this area to fix it. One of the Springfield reps once told me that the broken firing pin indicator is the most common reason the XD is returned for warranty service. Incidentally, neither of these indicators will affect function if they do break. New shooters may find these adjuncts useful but experience shooters know never to trust an "idiot light". I basically ignore mine but notice my wife appreciates these features on her XD9 and they make her feel safer when handling the weapon. I tell her that it is OK to use them but never rely on them to the point where it replaces safe gun handling practices. When comparing finishes the XD offers both blue and bi-tone models and you can get the Glock slide in any color you want as long as it's black (my apologies to Henry Ford). Without a doubt the Glock Tennifer finish is superior to the XD's Brunial finish which has been known to wear and can rust. Of course with just minimal care you can prevent this. I live in an area with an average rainfall of greater than 100 inches per year and I don't have a hint of rust on my XD's and I don't use any exotic oils or silicone impregnated gun socks. I just clean the gun after each trip to the range and wipe the slide down with a bit of Rem-Oil on a gun patch. When it comes to corrosion and scratch resistance nothing beats Glock's Tennifer finish. In fact the tennifer finish is probably the most durable stock finish of any gun produced. I can live without the cocking serrations and certainly live without the chamber/firing pin indicators but I like the fact that my Glock's look nearly brand new after years of shooting and the wear is minimal. The Tennifer protects against rust even after it wears. Glock gets this vote hands down. Receiver (grip): Both companies now offer frames available in both black and olive drab and both receivers are made from very durable polymers that deserve a better description than "plastic". The polymer receiver can reduce perceived recoil by flexing slightly during recoil. This increases the comfort factor when shooting and is one of those serendipitous design features that make the Glock and XD so easy to shoot. Some shooters seem to like the steeper angle of the XD and many appreciate the fact that there are no finger grooves on the XD like there are on the 3rd generation Glock's. The steep angle ensures a high hold on the XD but due to the higher bore axis on the XD I feel the Glock offers quicker follow up shots. The XD offers an ambidextrous magazine release but this isn't a strong selling point with me. This could be helpful if one were forced to shoot one-handed and needed to reload, but only if the shooter practiced this enough to engrain this into muscle memory so it becomes second nature. I think in a desperate situation I would still revert to using my trigger finger to release the magazine if I were force to shoot with my support hand. Both receivers are a bit slippery to me but I rectify that problem with some grip tape. An out of the box combat pistol should fit as many hands as possible and one of the complaints about the finger grooved Glocks is that the fit can be less than ideal. I give the nod to the XD only because of this fact and shooters with smaller hands should not require any grip modifications and I feel the XD will fit more hands out of the box than the Glock. Field Stripping: The XD incorporates a take down lever that is very similar to a SIG. It is large and simple to use and makes the XD slide easier to field strip. In fact, even most Glock aficionados agree with this after they compare both systems. The XD requires you to simply lock the slide back on the unloaded gun while you push up the takedown lever, rack the slide to the rear and then push the slide into the forward position while you pull the trigger. The Glock, though doable is a bit trickier since the slide needs to be retracted slightly with the thumb under the rear tang of the pistol while the fingers lie over the slide simultaneously with the same hand. The opposite hand then has to depress the slide lock lever. After the trigger block unlocks you must press the trigger to remove the slide. People with large fingers often slip off the small slide lock lever though with repetition this gets a lot easier. The XD is just easier and more practical to field strip. Detail Stripping: With minimal training one can easily detail strip a Glock. They have fewer parts than the XD and are less complicated than the Springfield model. There are publications and DVD's available that show you how to do this step by step for both models. Overall the Glock is much easier due to the fewer parts and a less complicated design. For those who have a need to periodically detail strip their sidearm I score this one for the Glock. Trigger: Out of the box I feel the XD trigger is smoother than the Glock but it has a longer take-up and reset time. The Glock's shorter reset allows for quicker follow up shots this fact is a big plus for me. The Glock's trigger weight can be easily adjusted by by just simply changing the connector and/or the trigger spring. These parts are truly "drop-in" and it is fairly simple to learn how to do this. The Glock's trigger can be adjusted from under 3.5lbs for competition to >8lbs for duty or carry. The standard service pistol trigger weight is 5.5lbs. The XD's trigger is standard as far as I know but is smooth enough for both competition and defense. The XD's trigger face is made of metal vs. the Glock's polymer trigger and both have the same inner-face trigger safety which prevents the trigger from moving back unless it is pulled straight back. I am not sure how necessary this is but they both have it and it does not impede shooting either gun. Though I like the out of the box XD trigger since it is so smooth I am going to give the nod to the Glock because of the faster reset time. I personally feel this is critically important in a combat handgun. Safeties: Both the Glock and the XD have three internal safeties and they are all passive. In other words they are all activated until you pull the trigger. In addition the XD has an external grip safety. This is an important consideration for some shooters and many departments require some sort of external safety. I personally don't care for it since you must have a full and secure grip with your hand for each and every shot because if you don't you may not disengage the grip safety enough to fire the gun. During a quick draw or less than ideal hold this could be problematic. To make sure this does not happen, you must take advantage of the XD's high grip angle to make sure the safety is disengaged. On advantage of this external safety is that it adds some security when re-holstering the gun in the rare case of something (such as a shirt tail or piece of foreign matter) gets between the trigger guard and the holster and forces the trigger back. To take advantage of this safety I re-holster by gripping the grip with my fingers and I place my thumb directly on the slide cover bridging the grip safety keeping it active. Both have trigger safeties that require the trigger to be pulled straight back to fire. Both also have firing pin and drop safeties. The bottom line is that the gun will not go off unless you pull the trigger or you're dumb enough to roast it over an open fire. Otherwise both of these guns are safe to use. I prefer the Glock without the grip safety due to the possibility of the grip safety not disengaging in a less than ideal hold of the gun. Stuff happens, you know? Recoil Rod: Glock. The reason for this has nothing to do with the metal (XD) vs. polymer (Glock) rod. It has to do with a potential for the slide to "hang" on a quick drawer due to the XD's greater slide mass. I define slide hanging as a momentary delay of the slide before going back into battery during recoil. This can occur with a less than adequate grip or so called "limp wristing". The few times this has happened to me have occurred with drawing the pistol. I have never experienced a failure to fire with this but it feels like it will fail to fire. On the one side you can say, "get an ideal grip each and every time you drawer". Roger that, I will try and I do. The other side or more realistic side of me says that just may not happen in a high stress event so this hang-up can affect my follow up shot. This does not happen each time I draw but enough for me to take notice and order a Wolff non-captive recoil rod with a heavier recoil spring to ensure the slide will go back into battery. The slide hang has more to do with the XD's slide weight and bore axis than the recoil rod but the recoil rod is what will control this. I have experienced the same thing with a Glock but only with an extremely worn recoil rod spring. Edge goes to Glock Magazines: The Glock magazines are made from polymer and are classified as drop free and most do but not necessarily all the time. Some of the magazines require a little tug at times, especially the smaller models. The XD mags are made from highly polished stainless steel and are truly drop free. The XD magazines in my experience are very well made with strong feed lips and dense polymer followers. They are much easier than the Glock magazines to disassembly and clean. If fact, disassembling a Glock magazine can be a royal pain. The Glock magazine has metal reinforced feed lips and even though the polymer breaks down a bit with heavy use it does not appear to affect function. Both magazines are quite reliable though I had to change the standard high capacity magazine springs to ISMI 14-coil mag springs to make my Glock 35 .40 S&W 100% reliable. Doing this was worth it to me even though the additional coils force me to download by one round. With my compact Glock 36 .45ACP I was able to fix an occasional failure-to-fire by changing out the stock magazine springs to Wolff 10% extra power springs. I feel the XD magazine is superior since it will always drop free, is much easier to disassembly and to date I have never to upgrade the springs to ensure reliability. Reliability: This issue is probably the biggest reason that both the XD and the Glock are so popular. The reliability of many of the polymer pistols is the reason that so many law enforcement and legally license civilians use these weapons. So which is more reliable? That is a tough call since both have undergone numerous torture tests and have done well. I can tell you that personally out of the XD's and Glock's I own the XD's have been more reliable if truth were told. That being said I have shot my Glock's a whole lot more than my XD's so who is to say that when I shoot my XD .40 around 10,000 times for example that it too will have the occasional malfunction such as my Glock 35 (.40)? In my experience, right out of the box reliability without doing any modifications to the gun or magazines the edge would go to the XD when I compare them right off. Who knows? Perhaps with the wrong XD or the right Glock, the role would be reversed. Both are truly reliable pistols but since this article promised to address this issue I would say the XD in my personal experience is the more reliable pistol "right out of the box". I give the XD an A+ and the Glock an A-. Shootability: Too subjective to rate. Like beauty, shootability is in the eye of the beholder. I feel that out of the box the Springfield has the smoother trigger and that gets better with use. The Glock trigger has a faster rest time and a shorter amount of trigger slack but the stamped trigger bars can be a bit on the rough side and have some creep in them. The lower bore axis on the Glock allows for quicker follow up shots. The Glock has inter-changeable connectors and trigger springs and you can customize the trigger by making it heavier or lighter. I find that for someone who owns both models the longer trigger length of the XD can cause jerking if you're used to shooting the Glock or heeling if you're used to the XD. I have had excellent accuracy with both models and really can't see much difference with either. Both models have barrels that feed nearly every type of bullet design and I don't have to avoid certain bullets like I do with some of the other guns I own. I like the lower bore axis of the Glock though and because of the faster reset of the trigger I am giving the edge to the Glock Accessories: Glock. The reason? They have been around longer and because of that there are many accessories available for the Glock. That being said, accessories can be a double edge sword. Sure there are a lot of goodies and aftermarket accessories for the Glock but remember that not all accessories are created equal and an accessory should only be added if it will improve your ability to use your weapon without compromising its reliability. Case in point; I was attending two weeks of handgun training using a Glock 35 and 36. I shot 3500 rounds in 10-days. The only failures I had on either Glock were due to after market accessories. One was a stainless steel captive recoil rod for the 36, which unscrewed and would have caused a "life ending jam" if this occurred for real instead of training. It required two instructors, myself and a rubber mallet to fix the problem. The stock plastic recoil rod was then used without incident. The two other failures were an after market trigger which I installed because the trigger was made of aluminum and not plastic and it just disintegrated one day and fell out of the gun and the other was an extended slide lock lever that fell out because I put the wrong size in. No failures due to stock parts. Accessories that I personally like for the Glock are: Extended slide lock levers (the right size ones) since it makes field stripping much easier and grip tape for a secure purchase. I like the skateboard type tape vs. the rubber type tape or neoprene sleeves. Equally impressive is the A-Grip, which covers the entire grip. I recommend you use the stock recoil rod unless you're shooting very hot ammo that is causing the slide to lock back prematurely. For specialty ammo or hot hand loads that cause this the Wolff stainless steel recoil rod and a heavier rated spring may be helpful. Be cautious of extended slide stop levers for the smaller guns. I have seen them cause unintentional slide lock ups when the shooter's thumb accidentally hits the lever. Most accessories are completely unnecessary and you would be better served to put that money in extra ammo for practice or a good quality holster. There are plenty of high quality holsters available for both models. Most accessories I have seen for the XD are holsters, non-captive recoil rods, mounted flashlights and after market sights. Rail Lights: Both companies have rail lights on their dust covers and a Glock light will fit onto the XD and Springfield's smaller light will fit on a Glock. In fact any picatinny accessible light will fit both models. Baby Glock's (models 26, 27, 32, 39) have no rails. The XD compact model is comparable to the compact Glock and have a rail. Tie. Calibers: Glock offers more calibers than the XD to include: 9mm, 10mm, .357 SIG, .40 S&W, .380 (not available in the US), .45ACP and .45 GAP. The XD offers 9mm, .40 S&W, .357 SIG & .45 GAP. Springfield does not offer a .45ACP and this may be a deal breaker for some people. In fact, I personally feel this was a big mistake for Springfield since the .45ACP is so popular. In a service size pistol I do not see any advantage of the .45 GAP and I personally feel Springfield missed the boat with this one. Hopefully they will offer the .45ACP in the future. By virtue of the number of calibers offer and the availability of three .45ACP models I score this one for Glock. Price: Many times the consumer won't really care about many of the above mention features. They will care about the price. Others feel you get what you pay for. Either way you can't go wrong with either the Glock or the XD since they are both offer a lot of bang for the buck (no pun intended). Glock's and XD's are quite affordable when compared to many of the other handguns on the market. Overall the XD is less costly than the Glock when you compare the MSRP but things may even up a bit if the smart shopper looks around. Internet buying has certainly made guns more affordable and you can find Glock's for nearly the same price as the XD's. Though Springfield is an American company the XD is produced in Croatia and is imported to the US just like Glock is imported from Austria, so neither gun is truly made in the USA. Price wise, the edge goes to the XD. Overall results. I'm scoring it the following way: 8 points for Glock, 6 points for the XD and 2 ties. Each gun has some slight advantages over the other and I would feel comfortable with either on my hip. In fact, there are many times that I do alternate carrying these pistols and will take one of each when I got for training this year. I hope this article has helped rather than confuse you over the differences between the Glock and the Springfield XD. I feel that both of these handguns are the two best "combat" handguns I have ever shot. If I were force to carry one over the other I would choose the Glock. Why? I feel that the lower bore axis and faster reset time is critical for my criteria for a combat handgun. Probably due to sheer volume, I shoot the Glock better and because of that fact it increases my chances that I may not completely reset the striker on the XD. I also have had several incidences of not disengaging the XD's grip safety completely thus delaying the firing of the gun. In a perfect world I would just hold the gun correctly but there could be times that this just may not happen. This has not happened all that much with the XD but the few times this has occurred certainly got my attention. I like Glock's superior finish. I don't feel that there is a better one out there. I also like the fact that the Glock is available in .45ACP, which is an important consideration to many shooters. Certainly I would not feel under armed with the XD and to tell you the truth I feel it is a more reliable handgun right out of the box since I never had to "upgrade" my mag springs to make them function reliably like I have with two of my Glocks. That being said I make sure any handgun I own is reliable before I carry it and that was why I was able to identify and fix the magazine problem for both Glocks. It is also my personal opinion that these guns are more reliable than any 1911 I owned past or present but will leave comparing the 1911 to combat "Tupperware" for a later article. You can't go wrong with either and remember your experience may be different than mine. Stay alert. Stay prepared. Stay safe. |
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Although i would disagree with you on verious points. But you are intituled to your opinion and i respect it. Welcome to our forum and i hope that you have a great time . Once again Welcome. I will never go back to Glocks i will always lay my life on the line with my XD.
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I will put my XD up against any Glock, any day. Great report. I will keep my XDs.
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Me too!! I am not turning loose of my XD 9mm subbie !
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You could say we're almost Glock fanatical about our XD's
Personally, I can't stand the grip angle on the Glock. I end up pointing it a bit upwards. Plus I think XD's are more asthetically pleasing, but thats really subjective. Lotsa people think both Glocks and XD's are butt ugly. I think my XD's a work of art! I bought em when I was 22, and I'll have em when I'm 82. |
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This is a very good review. Although one may agree or disagree with certain points, it took a lot of effort to explain and compare in such detail. Having owned a Glock in the past this review makes a lot of sense to me. Thanks a lot for writing it.
I now own an XD though...
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Thanks, a fine comparison. I currently have both. The GLOCK was purchased first. I prefer the XD for EDC for multiple reasons but the *primary* reason is the grip safety. I have a harder time dealing with the (real or imagined
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Now that's quite an article. Thanks for taking the time to write it!
I also recommend a couple of other points in the discussion: 1 - The XD uses conventional rifling. The Glock uses polygonal rifling. If you use lead, then Glock tends to foul. The XD barrel can handle it all. 2 - The XD has a chamber that fully supports the case. The Glock does not. 3 - I've been told by armourers that the XD has much stronger/beefier internals than the Glock. Maybe that whole discussion is moot because the Glock is strong-enough to out-last most of us anyway. 4 - It is fairly simple to disable the grip safety on the XD if one really wants the XD to be more like the Glock in that regard. As for me, the grip safety is a very good thing that may have saved my holster and my leg from ND during shirt-tail snag holster events. - Mike |
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