XD Comparison to Glock

[HVAC-TEK]

Originally Posted by Waldo

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I have HEARD from glock people that the XD firing pin setup is a little different from the Glocks and that makes it unsafe becasue it is supposedly always partially cocked and could fire on its own. When I ask if there are any reports of it or what they think about glock KBs they get pissed and change the subject.

Although not an expert or gun fanatic, I believe that the Glock is always in a halfcocked position, and the trigger pull finishes the cocking and then fires the gun. "Double action"

The XD is fully cocked and the trigger only releases the firing pin block and then fires the gun. "Single action."

Since both guns have a firing pin block, they should be equally safe. (I believe the Glock has a firing pin block"
Pardon any misuse of terminology.

I chose my XD because of price, and the grip safety was also a selling point for me.

KIM

[kabob983]

Well, for the first time ever I fired a Glock today at an IDPA match and I've got to say I think I liked it more than the XD. For some reason I seemed to have trememdous troubles sighting the XD correctly while the Glock gave me no problems. Of course, the longer slide (XD Service vs. a Glock 17) may have had something to do with that as well, I'm not sure.

I think the absense of the grip safety helped me a little bit too as sometimes the safety feels akward. I dunno, it's probably all mental things, but for me the Glock just works better.

To each his own I guess!

[XD-9Service]

I forgot to mention that my Glock 17 and XD-9 Service have been equally reliable. No jams or misfeeds with either one. I have used every brand and type of ammo available - even my reloads. Don't worry, no lead in the Glock!

[Delija]

Originally Posted by kabob983

I think the absense of the grip safety helped me a little bit too as sometimes the safety feels akward. I dunno, it's probably all mental things, but for me the Glock just works better.

To each his own I guess!

To me, this is about the most surprising thing I've read in this entire thread. Along with the original statement about the grip safety.

I have a hard time imagining how it would ever be necessary to shoot a gun without a firm grip (hold). But after reading all this, I tried to dry fire my XD and see if I could hold it in a way that the grip safety would not be depressed enough to disengage. I couldn't do it if my hand made any contact at all with the grip safety. I could hold the grip with a low enough hold that the safety is completely above the web of my hand, but that is such an awkward hold I doubt I could hit a target. Certainly I would not try. The grip safety needs only contact not any real pressure at all.

As for it feeling "awkward" as kabob983 said....I really am not aware of feeling the grip safety at all. My 1911 I definitely CAN feel, but like the XD it takes only contact and no real pressure to disengage. Like most modern 1911s, my .45 has a "pad" on the grip safety, so that is what I feel. I had an old 9mm in a 1911 platform and an old Colt .45 that did not have this pad (or "speedbump" or whatever the term is) and like the XD the grip safeties were not noticeable. I think the pads are now in vogue to prevent the grip safety from not disengaging like was talked about in the original post by "rip1970". It is my guess that older guns had heavier springs and the pad made the proper hold less crucial. But I tried with my 1911 to see if I could find a way to make contact with the grip safety and not depress it enough to disengage....I had the same results as with the XD. I could not do it. As I said, it took no pressure at all, only contact.

As an aside, I am not clear on the initial wording of the first post, and was even more uncertain after reading ………

Old School said “I will put my XD up against any Glock, any day”

rlp1970 replied with "Me too!! I am not turning loose of my XD 9mm subbie !”

So was the original post written by rlp1970? Or was he posting an article written and already posted or published by a Glock fan?

Either way, the article was interesting and very well done. But like many here I disagree with some of the conclusions. I would vote the XD the hands down superior gun overall.

The Glock obviously has the edge with their superior Tennifer finish. But aside from that? (easier detail strip? OK…I’ll take everyone’s word since I’ll never find out first hand…LOL).

Peace,
D.

[demented]

I may get banished for saying this but I'd trade my sub-compact Bi-tone for a Glock 26 in a New York second.

[manygunner]

Originally Posted by demented

I may get banished for saying this but I'd trade my sub-compact Bi-tone for a Glock 26 in a New York second.

STONE HIM!!! Just kidding. Why?

[therooster]

excellent write up... very unbiased and truthfull.



there is one thing that i think is over exaggerated by the glock guys. the whole "boar axis of glock compared to the boar axis of XD"

first of all, they are practically the same, the XD is slightly higher, but still not nearly "enough to make a difference".

if the boar axis made such a tremendous impact on "follow up shots" they why do the fastest shooters in the world shoot 1911s that have a very high boar axis?

if boar axis made such a difference, then how come i can out shoot most of the glock guys in our IDPA club?

if boar axis made such a difference, then how come Gordon Carroll(shoots for team Beretta) can out shoot all of us with his Beretta? which has a very high boar axis.

[kabob983]

Originally Posted by therooster

if boar axis made such a difference, then how come Gordon Carroll(shoots for team Beretta) can out shoot all of us with his Beretta? which has a very high boar axis.

Because he shoots alot more than we do...

[therooster]

Originally Posted by kabob983

Because he shoots alot more than we do...

my point was....

i can give Gordon my XD, or a Glock and he will still shoot the same as with his beretta.... Regardless of bore axis.

[ninjadroid]

This is a good article, but rlp1970 didn't write it. It was originally written by Greg Mete of Suarez International Inc. You can view the article in its entirety here:

http://www.suarezinternational.com/xdvsglock.html