XD Comparison to Glock

[Waldo]

I keep reading about how the Glock is safer than the XD. Can someone back this up with real world results? Show some news stories about the XD going off when not fired.


Thanks

[mcone]

Waldo - I have not been able to find any reading that says that Glock is safer than the XD. Just curious - can you include a link to an article on the internet with this opinion? (Or maybe this is an article in print?)

Thanks
- Mike

[glfpunk]

Well, I have room for both. They're both great guns. Glock has a few advantages over the XD at this point. The Glock finish is great, and can't be beat for an out of the box stock finish. The internals are also less complicated than the XD. Glock also has a proven record of reliability for the company as a whole. I don't think Glock reliability can be beat. It may be equaled in time by the XD however.

I love my XD. I am very accurate with Glocks, but the XD's point more naturally for me. Yes the XD sights are better made than the Glock sights, but I'm not a 3dot fan anyway. Bottom line is both are great guns, it's just about what fits you best. Over time the XD will get it's bugs worked out with the finish and some reliability problems it's had with the .40 models. Hopefully they will also design a large frame as well and offer both 10mm and .45ACP. At this point, a lot of real XD nuts that want to shoot either of those rounds are most likely going with Glocks. That's part of the market Springfield is losing in.

[kabob983]

Seriously, you could post this same thread at glocktalk and the glock guys would talk about why he's right and the glocks are superior. It really is all about what works better for you. Both have their various advantages and disadvantages, it's just what feels better for you.

Personally...I've never fired a Glock before (and I'm probably the only guy on earth who hasn't) but the XD did feel quite good in my hand. Not only that but the XD (well, HS2000) I was using had more than 60,000 rounds through it and looked/fired like it was brand new, so they can and will hold up if you treat them right!

Personally, I'm sure either would work fine if my life was on the line. I think Glocks are uglier than sin but I guess it doesn't matter a whole lot in a hazy situation!

[LexDiamonds]

+1 for the supported chamber on the XD! As a newcomer to the world of reloading, I am thankful the XD fully supports the .40SW case.

Its easy to spot brass that has been "glocked" as there is a bulge towards the bottom of the case. This is with factory rounds! As I worked up to a load w/ 180FMJ around 1100fps, I don think I would feel too great about shooting them in a Block.

[L I N C H P I N]

It is also my personal opinion that these
guns are more reliable than any 1911 I owned past or present but will leave
comparing the 1911 to combat "Tupperware" for a later article. You can't go
wrong with either and remember your experience may be different than mine.
Stay alert. Stay prepared. Stay safe.[/quote]



Which 1911s did you own. ME... I'll take my 1911s on any plastic. But I love My XD-tact 9. It has more muscle than the G



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[Paladin]

Thanks for the thoughtful and detailed review. About the only thing I can add to the above comments are that a stainless steel slide will eliminate the Tennifer advantage and perhaps more. Also, the ergonomics of both are significantly different. This will be a very personal preference but could greatly weight a person's decision as it did mine.

[manygunner]

Well written review. I disagree about a few points like the trigger. Personaly I think the XD reset if fine and I prefer its feel to a Glock. Also I am a big fan of fully supported chambers. It is nice to know a XD will not Kaboom with reloads if they are done right, Glocks may.

Further in my book ergonomics have everythig to do with my preference of a XD to a Glock. As I keep saying why buy a BLOCK, because that is what the grips of a Glock feel like, a big plastic 2x4. They are totaly not designed for use by a human hand (I guess Austrians have machine claws to shoot with). In addition everytime I shoot a Glock I wind up with slide rail marks on web my hand, not enough distance/beavertail to keep the slide from cycling across my large hand. A big BAD -1 to the Glock on its ergonomics (should be a -2). BTW, I can shoot my XD quite fast and with its high bore axis as my plate league and firearms academy will be more then happy to tell you.

Esthetics, the Glock is just plain ugly, I also find the magazine base stickign out of the grip extremely unattractive. The XD magazine fits into a nice recess and is flush with the grip, thereby avoiding possible snags of the magazine base and concealment clothing. The Glock basepad sticking out the way it does offers a nice gap for a bit of shirt or sweater to snag. No thanks, another -1 to the Glock on that.

I have shot both guns in several calibers and there are reasons why I carry a XD.

[mike+p+]

Good post! Here is my take on this.

Sights: XD wins. Steel is better in this case, and three dot is better than a "U" for a rear sight IMO. But sights can always be changed.

Safeties: Shouldn't matter, but I give the XD a psychological edge with the grip safety.

Detail stripping: Glock detail stripping is simple and easy, just like it's design. I have yet to detail strip the XD, but it looks simple enough. Glock was a good first pistol for me to tear down, and has been the only one I've done, and that has helped me in understanding other pistol designs.

Finish: I recently checked out a gen 2 Glock. The finish seemed similar to an XD finish. The newer tenifer finish is tough as nails. After recently buying an XD again, the slide seems easier to grip than the Glock, although the XD grip surface is uneven. I like the Glock's square, even slide, but actually prefer the XD's finish.

Indicators: Glocks do have a cocking indicator, the trigger, (whether or not it is forward or back). The XD offers visual and tactile confirmation from the rear without having to see or feel the trigger. Loaded chamber indicators are present on both, the glock external extractor nub, vs xd's top mounted indicator (placed there because it has an internal extractor). I've noticed you get used to feeling for it either way.

Grip: I can't seem to grip the full-size Glock well, and still keep it in line with my arm. Notice the open area in my hand in the pic.



To grip it well, it would point off to the right. Bringing it centered with two arms seemed ok though, just too different from my other pistols. The XD allows my hand full contact with the frame any way I hold it.

I tend to grip the mini Glock the best. One slight advantage for Glock, they seem more "grippy" having sharper peaks on the frame.

Trigger: I really like the trigger on my Glock 26, but don't like my Glock 17 trigger as much. I'm not sure why this is, but my 17 seemed a bit heavier. I ended up installing a 3.5 lb trigger connector, but it's not as great as it sounds. It actually increases pull weight and travel slightly before trigger break, making it a little more creepy, not as smooth as the XD. This, along with the grip feel are the two main reasons for switching from the large frame Glock to a large frame XD. And I shot it for the first time tonight. 110 rounds in about one half hour. It was so sweet, I'm really glad I switched. The XD 9mm, (for me at least), had less felt recoil, and actually sounded different, less of a crack, more of a thud. The one thing I miss is the super fast Glock trigger reset. But everything else adds up, and I could still shoot the XD faster and more accurately.

[kgpcr]

[quote="manygunner"]Well written review. I disagree about a few points like the trigger. Personaly I think the XD reset if fine and I prefer its feel to a Glock. Also I am a big fan of fully supported chambers. It is nice to know a XD will not Kaboom with reloads if they are done right, Glocks may.

I hate the polygonal rifiling that Glock has as well as not having a fully supported chamber. For not having a fully supported chamber is why Glock has had a KB problem with thier .40. to much pressure not enough gun. i am now an XD fan having turned from the dark side. the only thing Glock has that i like is a .45ACP. as soon as XD makes one i will buy 3 more.