I am not Suprised at this Shocker at all - Update!!!

[mattsnuked]

Originally Posted by Suppo

A question I ask myself daily. Is my red someone else's green, and their red my green?

Only if you're color blind.

[Delija]

Originally Posted by Suppo

"A question I ask myself daily. Is my red someone else's green, and their red my green?

I get asked this question so often I am sick of it. I am color blind (like about 10% or so of all males).

People find out, and it becomes an amusing game (for them, not me). I know most mean well and think I can satisfy their curiosity. But there are no answers.

My usual response is "How would you describe any color to someone born blind?" Is my 'blue" your "green"? There is no common point of reference, so there can be no conversation. How would you describe red (for example) to someone born blind? It just is impossible to do.

I do not know if it's true or not, but I have heard their are some people who are color blind in one eye only. I would love to hear such a person's description.

Both my brothers are color blind (better chance of winning the lottery). My maternal grandfather was NOT colorblind, yet it seems he could have/should have been,,,it's a sex linked gene from the mother's side, but only affects men.

My son is not color blind and has always had a good time being needed by me when putting his toys together and having to get his input so I'd know which wire was brown and which green...which blue, and which purple...since he was old enough to talk (very young...younger than when he could walk IIRC).

Now he wants to be Navy aviator. He's taken all the physicals including the very rigorous vision tests. Passed all with flying "colors". So did my dad in WW II.

I feel genuinely discriminated against for being color blind. It is a major inconvenience. And this inconvenience is never given any consideration by society at all. It seems things are done to make being color blind even more inconvenient, rather than less, as time goes on.

Peace,
D.

[JimLongley]

Originally Posted by Delija

I get asked this question so often I am sick of it. I am color blind (like about 10% or so of all males).

People find out, and it becomes an amusing game (for them, not me). I know most mean well and think I can satisfy their curiosity. But there are no answers.

My usual response is "How would you describe any color to someone born blind?" Is my 'blue" your "green"? There is no common point of reference, so there can be no conversation. How would you describe red (for example) to someone born blind? It just is impossible to do.

I do not know if it's true or not, but I have heard their are some people who are color blind in one eye only. I would love to hear such a person's description.

Both my brothers are color blind (better chance of winning the lottery). My maternal grandfather was NOT colorblind, yet it seems he could have/should have been,,,it's a sex linked gene from the mother's side, but only affects men.

My son is not color blind and has always had a good time being needed by me when putting his toys together and having to get his input so I'd know which wire was brown and which green...which blue, and which purple...since he was old enough to talk (very young...younger than when he could walk IIRC).

Now he wants to be Navy aviator. He's taken all the physicals including the very rigorous vision tests. Passed all with flying "colors". So did my dad in WW II.

I feel genuinely discriminated against for being color blind. It is a major inconvenience. And this inconvenience is never given any consideration by society at all. It seems things are done to make being color blind even more inconvenient, rather than less, as time goes on.

Peace,
D.

My sympathies are with you for feeling discriminated against, although I do not suffer from the condition, my brother in law does (he's one of the ones that sees some colors, but none well) and I was mentoring a guy at the phone company years ago, who I thought was well qualified for the job in question, and then it came out that he was color blind, and he lost a very good promotion.

I had my own vision problems with extreme near sightedness by second grade, so I do know some of the discrimination myself, but some of the worst I ever observed was my poor long suffering late wife. She was so left handed that it was physically painful.

Unfortunately we, as a societal whole, have a tendency to expect everyone to conform to a norm and don't realize the pain we cause in others when we discriminate without even thinking about it. A couple of years ago my brother in law and his wife were meeting us at a concert. I saw them coming in the gate and told them we sould be on the lawn near the back beneath the purple balloon. I was glad my bro in law was good natured about it, but I have never forgotten either.

As to the other question, well, scientifically all colors have wavelength so red is red...

OTOH, just because we recognize a specific wavelength to be red does not mean that we actually see what someone else sees.

[7.62NATO]

+1 shocker

[nogoa]

My best friend is colorblind. It was a hoot when I would shoot pool with him. "Why didn't you go for the green?" His reply would be, "which green?" Of course he had thicker skin than Delija. I would honestly forget. The funniest was the first time he saw a lightning bug. He thought someone threw a cigarette butt toward him. Then he saw another flash of mysterious light. He had my family cracking up.

Here is a shocker for ya'll.

[03RangerXLT]

HAHAHAH thats aweosme.
Here is another of the same kinda shocker for you guys. My friend "Biggie" wearing my rooomate's shocker!

[Delija]

Originally Posted by JimLongley

My sympathies are with you for feeling discriminated against, although I do not suffer from the condition, my brother in law does (he's one of the ones that sees some colors, but none well) and I was mentoring a guy at the phone company years ago, who I thought was well qualified for the job in question, and then it came out that he was color blind, and he lost a very good promotion.

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Your brother in law sounds like he has common "red-green" colorblindness. By far the most common type. There are people who see in black and white and shades of gray. Sort of like how Ray sees politics...LOL.

But seriously, the "red-green" affect a huge percentage of males. We aways can pick others out from the crowd. In a very brief conversation it becomes apparent that someone is color blind.

"Red-Green" is not what it sounds like. We see red fine ..or at least we think we do...we know it's the color of a fire engine. At least what a fire engine looks like to us who are color-blind. Can what I see as red appear to be my version of blue if I could see through your eyes and develop the image with your brain? No one knows.

The thing is we DO see in colors. The reason it's called "red-green" is that colors that are made with red or green give us problems. Purple is blue with red in it. No problem seeing blue. No problem seeing red. But mix 'em up to get purple, and depending on how much red, or how much blue, or the context can make a difference. Same with brown. Brown is green with red. This is the hardest color for me.

Certainly I never would have thought I was color blind until it was proved to me when I drew with crayons in first grade (or whenever). My grass was sometimes brown instead of green, and my water or sky instead of being blue would be purple. . I see all kinds of vivid colors. They just look different to me than to people not color blind. I see what I see. I cannot see what you see. A color blind test (we've all seen them) is a page with round dots of different colors. If I am color blind, I may see the number 44 in the pattern. You, not being color blind will not see the "44"...you see maybe an "XYZ". I cannot see the XYZ at all. You can't see the "44" at all. So we just see differently. The way you see is accepted as "normal". I see as many colors, I just don't know how to name them. Mostly because I gave up caring as a young child.

And I really wouldn't care. The problem is that it disallows me to do certain things. I could never be an electrician, a pilot, a doctor....a computer repair guy....stuff that uses color coding. My son is a chemist. I couldn't do that.

Doesn't really bother me. The only things that are bothersome are when people find out I'm color blind and they say what color does my shirt look to you. The answer is "what difference does it make"? I can say it looks red to me, and it also happens to look red to you. But neither of us has any idea what red looks like to the other.

Originally Posted by nogoa

My best friend is colorblind. It was a hoot when I would shoot pool with him. "Why didn't you go for the green?" His reply would be, "which green?" Of course he had thicker skin than Delija.

My skin is not thick?
OK

Anyway, pool is good...they have colors, but also stripes and numbers, so there's no disadvantage. Too bad everything is not as accommodating to color blind people.

The amount of color blind men is huge. There are almost no color blind females. I think color blind women have much more serious limitations...some see in black and white (I think..I have never met a color blind women..exceptionally rare).

I applied to and was rejected by West Point and didn't even apply to the other service academies. You can not be color blind and become a cadet. Seems like discrimination to me.

Also, as I mentioned, it takes just moments for me to know I am talking to someone who is also color blind. It's easy. Typical conversation...with a non color blind guy...he'll say to me "Man, did you see that blond with the pink shirt in the green convertible"? Too many color references. The same thing said by a fellow color blind guy" Did you see that hot babe with the great body in the Chevy convertible"?

When I could not get into any of the service academies (what I wanted when I was in high school). my dad tried to cheer me up and said if I went to a regular college and got in trouble, all they could do was kick me out. At a service academy they could put me in the brig. A few years later, the draft was a big weight bearing down on me. But I figured if they wouldn't take me as a cadet, they wouldn't take me as a recruit...I could not have been MORE WRONG! They loved color blind people. We are not conditioned to see colors..just shapes...the term is "color biased".

So for spotting camouflage, color blind guys were ideal. The most dangerous job in Vietnam was hanging out of a chopper looking for camouflaged anti aircraft guns on the ground. No thank you very much!!!

Peace,
D.

[03RangerXLT]

I am red-green colorblind. I could never figure out why people see purple when they look at my truck, and I see blue. I forgot I was colorblind. My truck IS blue, but to some people, it appears purplish. boooooo

[XD BACKUP GUN]

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[BankGuard]

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