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Old 03-28-2008, 11:56 PM   #1
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dangerous situation??

i just read this thread Need gun smithing help ASAP for my XD9 a few minuts ago. this makes me nervous... i allways carry my xd with one chambered, as do many others here. my question is, if this all the sudden happens to my gun, can i expcet a hole in my leg?? and how common is this problem?

again, here is the link to the thread that has me worried.
Need gun smithing help ASAP for my XD9

and also... is it ok for the gun (as far as internal wear goes) to keep the gun cocked and ready for action at all times, 24/7??
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:05 AM   #2
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The gun in this thread was modified and used more than most people would. If you keep it in stock condition you won't have a problem. If your going to tweek the gun to get the best trigger pull and then shoot thousands of rounds through it in competition then yes sooner or later you will have to replace some parts.

How common is this problem? It's the first time I've hear of it and I'm sure there are quite a few people shooting customized guns. Maybe an isolated problem? Like I said it's the first time I've hear of it.
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As long as you aren't doing modifications on your XD, I don't think you have any problems.
This member had mods done and a bit of wear on the pistol.
They are all well explained throughout the thread.
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ok... i feel better knowing that the modifications were the MAIN cause. BUT, you also mentioned high round count or a lot of use being a contributor. i have about 2500 rounds through my carry XD, will that be an issue??
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ok... i feel better knowing that the modifications were the MAIN cause. BUT, you also mentioned high round count or a lot of use being a contributor. i have about 2500 rounds through my carry XD, will that be an issue??
2500 rounds is nothing for these guns. Just keep your gun stock, and go back to feeling as comfortable as you did before you read that thread

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Were talking modifying (grinding and removing metal) on a sear, or safety leaver with little or no heat treating to compensate for the metal removal and shooting 20,000 plus rounds a year.
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and also... is it ok for the gun (as far as internal wear goes) to keep the gun cocked and ready for action at all times, 24/7??
+1 for do not worry about your STOCK UNMODIFIED XD doing the same thing.

As for your question about keeping a round in the chamber and a full mag in the gun at all times. Again no worries there. Just make sure to keep your gun cleaned after use and clean it after a long storage time. Rotate ammo that you chambered a time or two.

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ok. now i feel confident again. thanks all. and i defenatly wont be modifying the gun anytime soon. (or at all) the deepest i plan to get into the gun is changing the sights later, but thats it.

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Were talking modifying (grinding and removing metal) on a sear, or safety leaver with little or no heat treating to compensate for the metal removal and shooting 20,000 plus rounds a year.
Agalindo,
I don't think that you are referring to my lever at all but to avoid any confusion I'm making this post.

My striker safety lever did not cause this problem. All my levers are heat treated to 54-56 Rockwell c. The striker safety levers that I designed keeps the factory engagement between the striker and the striker safety. I did this to avoid this exact situation.


Three things have to happen for this situation to occur. First the striker has to skip over the sear. Next the striker has to get past the striker safety. Lastly the striker retainer pin has to not capture the striker spring, allowing the striker to be held at the forward limit of its travel.

Modifying the striker safety in the slide of an XD is not wise. This safety on any striker fired gun is critical to safe operation.

At the time I designed my lever, every one doing trigger jobs on the XD's were modifying the striker safety in the slide. As you have see, this can have disastrous results. Some people that are doing trigger jobs on the XD's have stopped modifying this safety.




I removed the striker retainer pin and pushed the striker safety down to replicate the problem. The slide in the picture has an unmodified striker and striker safety. I had to try to replicate this problem.
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Old 03-29-2008, 08:32 PM   #10
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No I was not referring to your safety leaver. If you check the original thread it was mentioned that Springfield is one of the places that alter the striker safety. Again the problem seemed to arise from stock parts that were altered not from any of the drop in options, Springer, or Powder River custom trigger jobs. I'm not trying to lay blame on anybody just trying to explain that this is not a common problem. For further information as to what wore out and why you might try contacting noobshooter or Scott.
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