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Cumminalong · 03-27-2008, 04:16 PM

Okay, to stop trying to guess at ALL the problems you're having, you need to tell us EXACTLY what you've done to the gun.

Obviously, that striker safety plunger is either completely shot or you shaved it down. Either way, it needs to get replaced.

Have you modified the sear with a lighter spring? If it's too light, it won't respond fast enough to the slide racking and it won't catch the striker.

Have you shaved the sear itself? Is the edge of the sear rounded over from a bad polish job? That will also cause it not to catch.

Quit throwing parts at it, put all the stock pieces back in (specifically the sear, sear spring and replace that striker safety plunger).

Hacking on parts, like that plunger, is a sure way to mess up the gun.

**agalindo** · 03-27-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cumminalong

Obviously, that striker safety plunger is either completely shot or you shaved it down. Either way, it needs to get replaced.

Actually that looks like it's had a trigger job. I've seen Canyon Creek trigger jobs with striker safeties that look like that.

Cumminalong · 03-27-2008, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by agalindo

Actually that looks like it's had a trigger job. I've seen Canyon Creek trigger jobs with striker safeties that look like that.

That's not a trigger job, that's someone going nuts with a file or emory board.

If someone PAID for that as a trgger job, they need to slap the guy with a large fish.

Even with that striker safety hacked up like that, the sear is still letting go or not catching the striker upon recoil. The only way that happens is 1 - The sear spring is too light, 2 - The edge of the sear is rounded over, or 3 - The trigger bar is incorrectly fit and not allowing the sear to fully engage.

The striker safety is a secndary problem, not the root cause.

ichy_trigger · 03-27-2008, 04:24 PM

That safety plunger looks seriously modified from the pics unless its just a bad angle in thre picture.

Cumminalong · 03-27-2008, 04:43 PM

A trigger job and polish looks like this, not like that hack above. Sorry about the image quality, the light in this room sucks, but you can see the difference.

This combination of parts and polishing yields a very consistent 2 lb 8 oz - 2 lb 11 oz trigger pull weight. The only reason its that high is I use the stock weight striker safety spring and stock weight striker spring.

**agalindo** · 03-27-2008, 04:55 PM

The sear is not in play in the picture posted. The slide is off and it looks like the striker is forward. Looks more like it's not in correctly or the the striker dampaning spring is bad.

Rich is an excellent gunsmith and the first to offer a trigger job on the XD.

Cumminalong · 03-27-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by agalindo

The sear is not in play in the picture posted. The slide is off and it looks like the striker is forward. Looks more like it's not in correctly or the the striker dampaning spring is bad.

Rich is an excellent gunsmith and the first to offer a trigger job on the XD.

Correct, in THAT picture the sear is not in play, but the stirker safety is still inoperative regardless.

With the pistol together, if that striker is still going forward, then the sear is failing to engage.

**Loves2Shoot** · 03-27-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cumminalong

That's not a trigger job, that's someone going nuts with a file or emory board.

I spoke with him and they problems were the two fold, and related to modification of stock parts and the wear from extensive use. No spring issues.

It was not done by him and was a trigger job done on factory part that he paid for (not us.)

As for those that don't understand what is going on the with the striker safety and striker, I'll explain it for you.

One way to do a trigger job is to change the safety lever to engage the safety sooner and this requires modifications to the lever, striker and striker block. That is what you are seeing. This is the way the factory does it also.

I prefer to do it differently.

bountyhunter · 03-27-2008, 05:04 PM

I can say without fear of contradiction: if the striker can ride ahead of the safety plunger as shown, exactly two things can cause it:

1) The safety plunger/spring are installed wrong or buggered so the plunger does not pop up to the correct height.

2) The plunger has been ground off so far it allows the striker to pass by rendering the safety useless.

Cumminalong · 03-27-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Loves2Shoot

I spoke with him and they problems were the two fold, and related to modification of stock parts and the wear from extensive use. No spring issues.

It was not done by him and was a trigger job done on factory part that he paid for (not us.)

As for those that don't understand what is going on the with the striker safety and striker, I'll explain it for you.

One way to do a trigger job is to change the safety lever to engage the safety sooner and this requires modifications to the lever, striker and striker block. That is what you are seeing. This is the way the factory does it also.

I prefer to do it differently.

I would HATE to know that SA did that, which I'm sure is not the case in this.

Also, I'm not asking to bust anybody out, but I'd like to know who it was that was paid to do that. I'm sure it was none of the fine folks around here.

03-27-2008, 04:16 PM	#11
Cumminalong XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Phenix City, AL Posts: 181	Okay, to stop trying to guess at ALL the problems you're having, you need to tell us EXACTLY what you've done to the gun. Obviously, that striker safety plunger is either completely shot or you shaved it down. Either way, it needs to get replaced. Have you modified the sear with a lighter spring? If it's too light, it won't respond fast enough to the slide racking and it won't catch the striker. Have you shaved the sear itself? Is the edge of the sear rounded over from a bad polish job? That will also cause it not to catch. Quit throwing parts at it, put all the stock pieces back in (specifically the sear, sear spring and replace that striker safety plunger). Hacking on parts, like that plunger, is a sure way to mess up the gun. __________________ *XD9 Tactical (PistolGear Pimp )* - Pistol Gear drop-in barrel, Trijicon Sights, tungsten guide rod, SP sear and trigger, lots of polished parts *XD40 Sub-Comp (Everyday Carry Gun)* - Trijicon sights, SP sear and trigger bar, X2L, 165 gr Federal HST's *XD40 Service (Only thing stock is the serial number)* - Bar-Sto barrel, SP sear and trigger bar, Tungsten guide rod and spring, Dawson Precision sights, Operator magwell, lots of polished parts *XD45ACP Service* - TFO sights and 230 gr Federal HST's

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03-27-2008, 04:43 PM	#15
Cumminalong XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Phenix City, AL Posts: 181	A trigger job and polish looks like this, not like that hack above. Sorry about the image quality, the light in this room sucks, but you can see the difference. This combination of parts and polishing yields a very consistent 2 lb 8 oz - 2 lb 11 oz trigger pull weight. The only reason its that high is I use the stock weight striker safety spring and stock weight striker spring. __________________ *XD9 Tactical (PistolGear Pimp )* - Pistol Gear drop-in barrel, Trijicon Sights, tungsten guide rod, SP sear and trigger, lots of polished parts *XD40 Sub-Comp (Everyday Carry Gun)* - Trijicon sights, SP sear and trigger bar, X2L, 165 gr Federal HST's *XD40 Service (Only thing stock is the serial number)* - Bar-Sto barrel, SP sear and trigger bar, Tungsten guide rod and spring, Dawson Precision sights, Operator magwell, lots of polished parts *XD45ACP Service* - TFO sights and 230 gr Federal HST's Last edited by Cumminalong; 03-27-2008 at 04:53 PM.

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03-27-2008, 05:04 PM	#19
bountyhunter XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nazifornia Posts: 1,651	I can say without fear of contradiction: if the striker can ride ahead of the safety plunger as shown, exactly two things can cause it: 1) The safety plunger/spring are installed wrong or buggered so the plunger does not pop up to the correct height. 2) The plunger has been ground off so far it allows the striker to pass by rendering the safety useless.