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josey · 03-19-2008, 10:09 AM

I am a potential new buyer for a XDSC9mm , but I have two issues that require answers before I go on and buy the thing ...!!! 1) The double action only : I own a Beretta 90-two which is DA/SA that means that the first pull of the trigger (if the hammer has not been cocked ) is going to be a long one and the rest will be short crisp pulls (SA) . Now, if the XD is a DA only, does that means that every time you pull the trigger is going to be a long hard pull ? I need some explaining here because that isn`t clear to me ... and 2) I have been reading about the finish on the slides of the XDs (I think it is call Brunirol ) that it is not very good and some guns are getting rusted.... please, tell me that this has been solved already...!!! But I really need to understand the DA long pull on the trigger. Thanks for your time..... josey

kdhs10 · 03-19-2008, 10:16 AM

The trigger pull is a little long, but not that bad. There are also a couple forum sponsors that make trigger kits for them to solve this. The finish has been fixed on the newer guns, don't have to worry about rusting.

GFunk · 03-19-2008, 10:19 AM

No, No - the striker (hammer) on the XD is always cocked, unless there isn't a round in the chamber. All the trigger does is release the striker, so it is a pretty crisp trigger. However, the trigger has an initial, somewhat long pull that has little resistance. Once you hit the point of releasing the striker, the reistance increases until you get a decently crisp break.

It's a very good trigger, not like a DA. More like SA feel with DA pull length.

rogerxd45 · 03-19-2008, 10:36 AM

its like a 2 stage trigger the first stage is long but is really light. the second stage is heavier but short.

it is nothing like the DA trigger on a DA/SA

rgeliske · 03-19-2008, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by josey

I am a potential new buyer for a XDSC9mm , but I have two issues that require answers before I go on and buy the thing ...!!! 1) The double action only : I own a Beretta 90-two which is DA/SA that means that the first pull of the trigger (if the hammer has not been cocked ) is going to be a long one and the rest will be short crisp pulls (SA) . Now, if the XD is a DA only, does that means that every time you pull the trigger is going to be a long hard pull ? I need some explaining here because that isn`t clear to me ... and 2) I have been reading about the finish on the slides of the XDs (I think it is call Brunirol ) that it is not very good and some guns are getting rusted.... please, tell me that this has been solved already...!!! But I really need to understand the DA long pull on the trigger. Thanks for your time..... josey

The XD is not a Double Action only gun if anything it is more of a Single Action only gun. Unlike the Glock which has a slight DA in the early stroke of the trigger the XD is fully cocked after each round. The initial trigger travel releases the trigger safety and pretravel before engaging the Sear, this requires very little effort. Once the Sear is engaged you will feel the effort necessary to move the Sear far enough to release the striker, this is usually 5.5# -7# on a new gun. After about 500 rounds that effort will decrease and become smoother and remain constant. There is no Double action required and the recoil of the slide recocks the Sear. Hope this answers your question.

**powder river** · 03-19-2008, 10:41 AM

This video shows both the stock and the modified trigger pull of the xd's.

PowderRiver Trigger mod (video)

AggieChemDoc · 03-19-2008, 10:42 AM

I agree with Gfunk... I generally don't like the long DA triggers, but am very pleased with the trigger on my XD.

**mhillsing23** · 03-19-2008, 10:49 AM

Like others have said, the trigger is nothing like the long hard pull of a DAO gun. It actually like the initial long/light pull on the trigger. It allows me to ride the trigger a bit. The new finishes are incredibly durable. I take it you don't have a local shop where you can go play with the trigger of the XD?

bountyhunter · 03-19-2008, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rgeliske

The XD is not a Double Action only gun if anything it is more of a Single Action only gun. Unlike the Glock which has a slight DA in the early stroke of the trigger the XD is fully cocked after each round. The initial trigger travel releases the trigger safety and pretravel before engaging the Sear, this requires very little effort. Once the Sear is engaged you will feel the effort necessary to move the Sear far enough to release the striker, this is usually 5.5# -7# on a new gun. After about 500 rounds that effort will decrease and become smoother and remain constant. There is no Double action required and the recoil of the slide recocks the Sear. Hope this answers your question.

Actually, both the Glock and XD are "SA only" guns because they have only one firing mode. That makes them "single action". They both have a long trigger pull, but the Glock is actually deflecting the striker spring as the trigger is pull, the XD design cocks that spring with the slide movement and the trigger pull just releases the sear.

The XD has a better trigger, but Glocks can be tweaked pretty well too. The XD trigger "feel" is what people generally prefer, which is a very light take up and then a well defined break point. The stock Glock is just a long, stacking feel that builds and releases without a definitive break point. Most people hate that because you can't stage the trigger.

josey · 03-19-2008, 01:09 PM

I think that I am understanding now . It is a little hard for me because I have never experienced that ... My shooting have always been done with Sigs and Berettas, and a couple of times with 1911s , and I was worry a bit. So, as far as I can think of this DA it is a kind of SA with a little travel . I will give it a try first before buying, to be sure. Thanks to all for the explanations and also for the second answer to the finish quality , that it has been solved, as I thought it would have been by now. josey

03-19-2008, 10:09 AM	#1
josey XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Florida, U.S. Posts: 9	double action trigger in a XD ? I am a potential new buyer for a XDSC9mm , but I have two issues that require answers before I go on and buy the thing ...!!! 1) The double action only : I own a Beretta 90-two which is DA/SA that means that the first pull of the trigger (if the hammer has not been cocked ) is going to be a long one and the rest will be short crisp pulls (SA) . Now, if the XD is a DA only, does that means that every time you pull the trigger is going to be a long hard pull ? I need some explaining here because that isn`t clear to me ... and 2) I have been reading about the finish on the slides of the XDs (I think it is call Brunirol ) that it is not very good and some guns are getting rusted.... please, tell me that this has been solved already...!!! But I really need to understand the DA long pull on the trigger. Thanks for your time..... josey

03-19-2008, 10:16 AM	#2
kdhs10 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Jax, FL Posts: 238	The trigger pull is a little long, but not that bad. There are also a couple forum sponsors that make trigger kits for them to solve this. The finish has been fixed on the newer guns, don't have to worry about rusting. __________________ I wish my lawn was emo so it would cut itslef. XD40 Service Para-Ordnance Warthog .45

03-19-2008, 10:41 AM	#6
powder river XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 214	This video shows both the stock and the modified trigger pull of the xd's. PowderRiver Trigger mod (video) __________________ www.powderriverprecision.com

03-19-2008, 10:49 AM	#8
mhillsing23 XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,100	Like others have said, the trigger is nothing like the long hard pull of a DAO gun. It actually like the initial long/light pull on the trigger. It allows me to ride the trigger a bit. The new finishes are incredibly durable. I take it you don't have a local shop where you can go play with the trigger of the XD? __________________ Veritas vos liberabit...

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03-19-2008, 10:19 AM	#3
GFunk XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 116	No, No - the striker (hammer) on the XD is always cocked, unless there isn't a round in the chamber. All the trigger does is release the striker, so it is a pretty crisp trigger. However, the trigger has an initial, somewhat long pull that has little resistance. Once you hit the point of releasing the striker, the reistance increases until you get a decently crisp break. It's a very good trigger, not like a DA. More like SA feel with DA pull length.

03-19-2008, 10:36 AM	#4
rogerxd45 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: boise ID (its boy-see, not boy-z) Posts: 3,592	its like a 2 stage trigger the first stage is long but is really light. the second stage is heavier but short. it is nothing like the DA trigger on a DA/SA

03-19-2008, 10:42 AM	#7
AggieChemDoc XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: WV Posts: 119	I agree with Gfunk... I generally don't like the long DA triggers, but am very pleased with the trigger on my XD.

03-19-2008, 01:09 PM	#10
josey XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Florida, U.S. Posts: 9	I think that I am understanding now . It is a little hard for me because I have never experienced that ... My shooting have always been done with Sigs and Berettas, and a couple of times with 1911s , and I was worry a bit. So, as far as I can think of this DA it is a kind of SA with a little travel . I will give it a try first before buying, to be sure. Thanks to all for the explanations and also for the second answer to the finish quality , that it has been solved, as I thought it would have been by now. josey