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Old 03-20-2008, 07:47 AM   #41
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You wanna talk contradiction.......
I did say in the beginning I thought a single stack would work UNTIL, that's the key word there, UNTIL I compared some of the thinnest single stack polymer framed firearms on the market in major calibers (9mm and up) to what I have. Once I did the comparison, my opinion changed and I'm entitled to that. It's called gaining knowledge. I'm sure you've never had an opinion or view point in one direction, learned something, and then changed your view have you? Nope, probably never.

At this point, with the firearms I have, I'd consider getting something like the new Ruger LCP or a revolver or something else I can stick in a pocket for times when I need something to work with a shirt and tie, etc.

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Sounds to me like something I said just peaved you somehow.....
Nope, not peeved at all. Just pointing out where you're inconsistent with your argument or where we simply disagree.

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As a concealed carry gun I'm fine with 5 rounds.......In a target or home defense gun I'd like a full size frame; I'd just prefer a single stack if I had the option; which equates to 8-10 rounds. And yes; I'd probably have spare mags at home....I'f I'm carrying concealed...no I don't carry spare mags....
Then get a revolver if you want 5 rounds. .357 mag is going to do you better than any caliber in a semi auto except maybe 10mm...

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Wrong; I said what I said because if I miss after the first 1-3 rounds....chances are I'm gonna get picked off before I get the next 14 off because I just gave them time to get the job done. Of course the situation I was thinking of was a close encounter in the room of a home or somewhere that there wasn't cover to dive behind. I didn't say I'd jump up and down and scream "here shoot me I missed."
Wrong, here is what you said, exactly:

"if I didn't get it done with the first 1 - 3 rounds I might as well stand up nice and tall so they can shoot me."

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And yes you're right I do only post about two posts per month because I work a lot of hours and when I'm not working; chances are 80% of the time I'm reading and getting better at what I do. That way I don't have to explain to someone's wife why their 31 year old husband whom I did CPR on for 55 minutes didn't survive when all they had done was a cholecystectomy; like I did last night. Point is; I have another life.
That's great you have a life, we all do. What we do with our time is up to us. I prefer reading information online and chatting on forums to watching TV...I hate TV other than sports and good movies.

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I didn't come here to argue I presented my opinion that I'd like a single stack XD because I would feel more comfortable, in control, and confident with the slimmer 1911 style frame in a gun I already have great deal of confidence in.

If you don't like my opinion then attack me some more; but frankly I'm done. Let some other people post what they would or wouldn't like about a single stack XD; I believe that was the original intent of this topic.
I'm also not here to argue, there is a difference between that and debating your viewpoint. It doesn't always have to get heated or personal. The XD45c is the same thickness at the grip as my single stack 1911. I put them side by side to compare. Everything forward of the grip is thinner on the 1911, but that doesn't affect your control or your grip.

It's not that I don't like your opinion, I'm just telling you what I've found out in real world experience and actually seeing the smallest/thinnest .45 acp gun next to mine and I'm not saying the XD in a single stack is a bad idea...it's just not a big enough difference for me to go get one. However, if I was looking for a concealed carry piece and I didn't yet have something I liked, I'd consider one. It's just not a big enough difference in the size to justify buying a new XD to replace my current carry choice when the size difference is quite marginal.

Your decision on what you do with your tactics, how much ammunition you carry, whether or not you carry a full magazine, and/or whether or not you carry a spare magazine is completely up to you. From what I'm hearing from you, it's quite evident you've never taken any courses or even read any books on the subject. Extra magazines are not necessarily for extra ammo, they're also a back up if you have a magazine failure with the one you have loaded in your firearm. If that magazine fails and you don't have a spare, you're dead. If you run out of ammunition and your attackers are still intent on harming you, you're dead. So, unless you plan on getting a third chance on life, I'm just simply suggesting that you at least read a couple books and take some advice from the professionals (by all means, that does not mean me).

One more thing on the speed detail you brought up, about how fast you can reload with magazines...realize that my XD45c can carry 13+1 of .45 acp. Compared to a 1911, that's one full loaded magazine in my XD versus two mags in the 1911. I'm faster with one full mag and 14 rounds than any body I'm ever going to have fire at who has to reload. I just don't see the point of carrying a firearm if you're going to carry one that's insufficient to the task.
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I've notice in most of his responses, "kratzy" is just itching for an arguement. Isn't that usually true, "kratzy"?
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I've notice in most of his responses, "kratzy" is just itching for an arguement. Isn't that usually true, "kratzy"?
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I'd consider getting something I can stick in a pocket for times when I need something to work with a shirt and tie, etc.
I totally agree with jtktatzer
I think an Single Stack XD would be just the ticket!!!
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I'd like one for my wife, so she could have an XD that she can handle with her miniature hands.
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Oh yeah, to all dilrods....if you have a problem with the topic; don't read it; other people are allowed to have different opinions.
And if YOU have a problem with OUR opinions, don't read them
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And if YOU have a problem with OUR opinions, don't read them
We're allowed to have opposing opinions...no one needs to be nasty. We can agree to disagree. It doesn't mean we hate each other, we just disagree about something. No biggie.
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I agree with jtkratzer. Or, I disagree with him..............whatever, it's all good.
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Don't really see the market for a XD single-stack .45. Such a design would basically appeal to 1911 fans and Springfield already has an excellent line of 1911's. If you want a 1911 style compact .45 from Springfield they have the EMP.

Just don't see enough reason to warrant the developmental cost.
Actually the EMP is only in 9mm and .40 (new for 0!
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