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scout53 · 03-10-2008, 04:09 AM

Is the XD a Double Action Only?
There is another name given for the XD action and I think that it is the same as a DAO but I am not sure.
Thank you for your help in clearing up this question that I have.

LKB3rd · 03-10-2008, 04:23 AM

It is single action only. Cycling the slide will cock the striker.
Are you thinking of the glocks action on your other question? It is my understanding that the glocks sort of "half cock" the striker on the slide cycling, and fully cock and release it with the trigger pull.

jedi573 · 03-10-2008, 04:25 AM

Welcome to the board! It can be difficult these days to find simple labels for actions because of all of the new-fangled types they have now.

Technically the XD is a single-action, as its trigger does the single action of releasing the striker. The XD, like the Glock, M&P, Steyr, 1911, Hi-Power, etc. is slide-cocking and not trigger-cocking. It has no second-strike capability.

So, if one had to label it, "single action" would be the closest thing.

Glocks are technically double action because the trigger cocks the striker the rest of the way and then releases it. Practically speaking it is in the same stable as the XD and as far as the user is concerned it's like a single-action. As with the XD, it lacks a second-strike capability and its trigger pull is consistent for every shot.

Andy

**mhillsing23** · 03-10-2008, 05:09 AM

Yeah, a lot of the new "striker fired" guns don't fit into the traditional idea of SA/DA. There are several places in printed reviews where you can find the XD listed as SA here, or DA there.

Zesty · 03-10-2008, 10:42 AM

I maybe wrong, but AFAIK the XD would technically be considered a SA, but the trigger is setup to almost imitate a DA pull.

**Loves2Shoot** · 03-10-2008, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhillsing23

There are several places in printed reviews where you can find the XD listed as SA here

SA on the XD means "Safe Action."

Technically it does move the striker back, just like the Glock and M&P, just not as much.

missmyJeep · 03-10-2008, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LKB3rd

It is single action only. Cycling the slide will cock the striker.
Are you thinking of the glocks action on your other question? It is my understanding that the glocks sort of "half cock" the striker on the slide cycling, and fully cock and release it with the trigger pull.

Hehehehe... haha... He said "co**"

scout53 · 03-10-2008, 03:11 PM

Thank you for your replies to the question about what type of action is found on the XD.
My concern is this:
From what I have read it is better to have a handgun that operates with a DOA over a Single Action. The idea I seem to get is that if used in self defense a SA will be viewed in court as though the shooter was acting without "reasonable care", even in self defense.
I might not be getting the idea that I have, from reading ALOT of self defense articles, across but this is the best that I can do.
Thanks for your input.

G60 · 03-10-2008, 03:18 PM

yikes, where do you live?

i doubt that would come up in court even here in CA.

trigger modifications maybe "he lightened the trigger pull, allowing for quicker and easier fatal shots", action type, no.

jedi573 · 03-10-2008, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scout53

Thank you for your replies to the question about what type of action is found on the XD.
My concern is this:
From what I have read it is better to have a handgun that operates with a DOA over a Single Action. The idea I seem to get is that if used in self defense a SA will be viewed in court as though the shooter was acting without "reasonable care", even in self defense.
I might not be getting the idea that I have, from reading ALOT of self defense articles, across but this is the best that I can do.
Thanks for your input.

Scout,

This may have been an issue some years back, but it doesn't hold as much water these days. So many duty handguns are what could arguably be called "single action" that it's not much of an issue. If in doubt, try out and think about purchasing the same handgun your local cops carry. That way if anyone has an issue just point out that it's identical and it shouldn't continue past that. You can try to get the same issue ammunition as well for further assurance.

Andy

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scout53 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3	XD action type Is the XD a Double Action Only? There is another name given for the XD action and I think that it is the same as a DAO but I am not sure. Thank you for your help in clearing up this question that I have.

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03-10-2008, 03:11 PM	#8
scout53 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3	Xd Doa Thank you for your replies to the question about what type of action is found on the XD. My concern is this: From what I have read it is better to have a handgun that operates with a DOA over a Single Action. The idea I seem to get is that if used in self defense a SA will be viewed in court as though the shooter was acting without "reasonable care", even in self defense. I might not be getting the idea that I have, from reading ALOT of self defense articles, across but this is the best that I can do. Thanks for your input.

03-10-2008, 03:18 PM	#9
G60 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hanford/Fresno, CA Posts: 210	yikes, where do you live? i doubt that would come up in court even here in CA. trigger modifications maybe "he lightened the trigger pull, allowing for quicker and easier fatal shots", action type, no. __________________ XD .45ACP 5" SA M1911A1 GI maybe requiring a safe handling demonstration before sale of a firearm is a good idea: http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=819360

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03-10-2008, 04:23 AM	#2
LKB3rd XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CT Posts: 923	It is single action only. Cycling the slide will cock the striker. Are you thinking of the glocks action on your other question? It is my understanding that the glocks sort of "half cock" the striker on the slide cycling, and fully cock and release it with the trigger pull.

03-10-2008, 04:25 AM	#3
jedi573 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Midwest Posts: 160	Welcome to the board! It can be difficult these days to find simple labels for actions because of all of the new-fangled types they have now. Technically the XD is a single-action, as its trigger does the single action of releasing the striker. The XD, like the Glock, M&P, Steyr, 1911, Hi-Power, etc. is slide-cocking and not trigger-cocking. It has no second-strike capability. So, if one had to label it, "single action" would be the closest thing. Glocks are technically double action because the trigger cocks the striker the rest of the way and then releases it. Practically speaking it is in the same stable as the XD and as far as the user is concerned it's like a single-action. As with the XD, it lacks a second-strike capability and its trigger pull is consistent for every shot. Andy

03-10-2008, 10:42 AM	#5
Zesty XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 19	I maybe wrong, but AFAIK the XD would technically be considered a SA, but the trigger is setup to almost imitate a DA pull.