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jmowery · 03-07-2008, 12:39 PM

I recently purchased sa xd Sub in .40. I have no experience with anything bigger than a 9mm. I love the gun except for the pain I have to indure over the next 48 hours after putting 50 rounds through it. It doesnt hut that day, But the following 2 days my hands swelled.

Does anyone have any advice? Shooting gloves? Lighter rounds? I was shooting winchester 165 grain FMJ. Do lighter Gr bullets lesson ths banejarring snap?

Is there a conversion to a 9mm for this gun? Maybe I'm just not ready for anything bigger.

Is my Grip to firm? The gun feels as if its tryong to jump from my hand so I'm gripping hard to hold onto it.

I love the gun and wouldn't hesitate to use in self defense.but, I am definatly hesitating putting another 50 rounds through it.

Thank you in advance for you opinions.

BeefyBeefo · 03-07-2008, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jmowery

I recently purchased sa xd Sub in .40. I have no experience with anything bigger than a 9mm. I love the gun except for the pain I have to indure over the next 48 hours after putting 50 rounds through it. It doesnt hut that day, But the following 2 days my hands swelled.

Does anyone have any advice? Shooting gloves? Lighter rounds? I was shooting winchester 165 grain FMJ. Do lighter Gr bullets lesson ths banejarring snap?

Is there a conversion to a 9mm for this gun? Maybe I'm just not ready for anything bigger.

Is my Grip to firm? The gun feels as if its tryong to jump from my hand so I'm gripping hard to hold onto it.

I love the gun and wouldn't hesitate to use in self defense.but, I am definatly hesitating putting another 50 rounds through it.

Thank you in advance for you opinions.

I would guess that your grip is too tight, but I'm not sure. How were your groupings? I would say just sell or trade the .40 for a XD9SC. I've never heard of anyone having a problem like this before, but there wouldn't be any shame is trading it for a 9mm.

-Jeff-

jmowery · 03-07-2008, 12:51 PM

My groupings are okay by my standards. I'm going aout to the range on SAturday. I do seem to be gripping hard but that is because comared to other guns this on seems to want to jump or spin out of my hand. I'm sure that its just a training issue.

Thanks

-Also Jeff

**XDONBOARD** · 03-07-2008, 12:52 PM

slugger6 · 03-07-2008, 12:55 PM

You really might be better off with the XD9SC. The .40 has a very snappy recoil that can wear you out. I routinely shoot 9mm, .40, and .45 and each caliber has its merits, but in the long run you will be happier with the one that is comfortable to shoot.

tenring · 03-07-2008, 12:56 PM

I have the sub 40, and it can be a bear to put lots of rounds through. Probably need some grip adjustment though.

If Kermee gets the shootersvideos site back up the grip video from Springer Precision on there shoes a great example and how to grip which ends up transferring most of the recoil into your left hand anyway. I know that when I squeeze to hard, I do get a sore hand, plus my aim gets more shaky.

The Combat Handgun Grip This article has been posted before here, and was very helpful to me in learning to eliminate much of the muzzle flip, and most of the recoil discomfort on the XD40 Sub.

Is the 45 compact 4 inch better? Sure, but I think you should look at your grip before giving up on the 40, I found the difference in recoil between my sub 40 and a buddy's service 9mm to be really not all that noticable with the proper grip technique. More muzzle flip by a small fraction, certainly not any more uncomfortable afterwards.

40packin · 03-07-2008, 01:06 PM

Thats weird. I've heard of guys shooting .38 and .357 snubs having some sore hands and fingers but this is the first I've heard from an XD sub compact. Wow.

**boardsurfer** · 03-07-2008, 01:12 PM

Have you considered a Grip extension? That extra finger on the grip may make a lot of difference.

**TMP** · 03-07-2008, 01:14 PM

SubCompacts will have more muzzle flip so you need to get use to it. I think you are holding on too tight..... once you relax and get comfortable with it you should be ok.

jmowery · 03-07-2008, 01:22 PM

Thanks all. I found some good examples and advice on grip. I think I'm just afraid (and untrained) of a .40 S&W. Im going to the range on Sat and applying what I've learned. Thanks again.

03-07-2008, 12:39 PM	#1
jmowery XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 12	I dont know what I'm doing. I recently purchased sa xd Sub in .40. I have no experience with anything bigger than a 9mm. I love the gun except for the pain I have to indure over the next 48 hours after putting 50 rounds through it. It doesnt hut that day, But the following 2 days my hands swelled. Does anyone have any advice? Shooting gloves? Lighter rounds? I was shooting winchester 165 grain FMJ. Do lighter Gr bullets lesson ths banejarring snap? Is there a conversion to a 9mm for this gun? Maybe I'm just not ready for anything bigger. Is my Grip to firm? The gun feels as if its tryong to jump from my hand so I'm gripping hard to hold onto it. I love the gun and wouldn't hesitate to use in self defense.but, I am definatly hesitating putting another 50 rounds through it. Thank you in advance for you opinions.

03-07-2008, 12:51 PM	#3
jmowery XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 12	grip My groupings are okay by my standards. I'm going aout to the range on SAturday. I do seem to be gripping hard but that is because comared to other guns this on seems to want to jump or spin out of my hand. I'm sure that its just a training issue. Thanks -Also Jeff

03-07-2008, 12:52 PM	#4
XDONBOARD XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 3,493	Wow. __________________ Michael XD-45 compact XD-40 sub-compact XD-9 sub-compact I'd rather have my XD and not need it, then need it and not have it.... I hereby certify that the person described hereon has been granted the privilege of carrying a concealed weapon in compliance with Arizona revised statute 13-3112.

03-07-2008, 12:55 PM	#5
slugger6 XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 19,249	You really might be better off with the XD9SC. The .40 has a very snappy recoil that can wear you out. I routinely shoot 9mm, .40, and .45 and each caliber has its merits, but in the long run you will be happier with the one that is comfortable to shoot. __________________ "What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us". - Ralph Waldo Emerson

03-07-2008, 12:56 PM	#6
tenring XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: MI Posts: 879	I have the sub 40, and it can be a bear to put lots of rounds through. Probably need some grip adjustment though. If Kermee gets the shootersvideos site back up the grip video from Springer Precision on there shoes a great example and how to grip which ends up transferring most of the recoil into your left hand anyway. I know that when I squeeze to hard, I do get a sore hand, plus my aim gets more shaky. The Combat Handgun Grip This article has been posted before here, and was very helpful to me in learning to eliminate much of the muzzle flip, and most of the recoil discomfort on the XD40 Sub. Is the 45 compact 4 inch better? Sure, but I think you should look at your grip before giving up on the 40, I found the difference in recoil between my sub 40 and a buddy's service 9mm to be really not all that noticable with the proper grip technique. More muzzle flip by a small fraction, certainly not any more uncomfortable afterwards. __________________ "The Sound of freedom is a .45 empty bouncing off the ground" ~ Rob Leatham

03-07-2008, 01:06 PM	#7
40packin XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Las Vegas, ex-Californian Posts: 221	Thats weird. I've heard of guys shooting .38 and .357 snubs having some sore hands and fingers but this is the first I've heard from an XD sub compact. Wow.

03-07-2008, 01:12 PM	#8
boardsurfer XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Golden, CO Posts: 367	Have you considered a Grip extension? That extra finger on the grip may make a lot of difference. __________________ "Denial has no survival value" XD45 Service

03-07-2008, 01:14 PM	#9
TMP XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 997	SubCompacts will have more muzzle flip so you need to get use to it. I think you are holding on too tight..... once you relax and get comfortable with it you should be ok. __________________ ______________________ XD45 Tactical XD9 subcompact Wilson Border Patrol 870 Ruger 10/22 Beretta U22 Neos 6.0 INOX "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms. . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." -- Jefferson`s "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776

03-07-2008, 01:22 PM	#10
jmowery XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 12	Thanks all. I found some good examples and advice on grip. I think I'm just afraid (and untrained) of a .40 S&W. Im going to the range on Sat and applying what I've learned. Thanks again.

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