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Axemann · 06-05-2005, 08:20 PM

I have had problems in the past getting magazines to seat properly if they were full (10) + 1 in chamber. This is an XD9 4" service with about 1500 rounds through it. These are all Springfield magazines.

Saturday in an IDPA match with a tactical reload the slide jammed. I guess this would technically be a failure to feed. Couldn't budge it at all. (Ended up withdrawing and going to gunsmith). I spoke to another guy at the club who also has an XD. He told me to never try to load 10 + 1. He has had same problem. Is this an adjustment issue? Suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

gsh341 · 06-05-2005, 08:29 PM

Exactly how did the jam occur? What did the gunsmith find?

therooster · 06-05-2005, 10:55 PM

the "+1" doesnt matter... its already in the chamber, it doesnt add any extra perssure.

a full mag on an XD is very stiff and it takes a bit of force to seat it. just slam that bad boy in there and go to town.

Axemann · 06-06-2005, 04:53 PM

Slamming that bad boy in is what got me in "trouble" or at least I thought so.

To answer the previous question--gunsmith put the slide in a vice and "forced" the issue. Not sure how he did it because it happened so fast. Cartridge was "swelled" with two large indentations on each side. He took gun apart and pronounced it fit. Said cartridge "swelled" for unknown reason and would not feed. Not sure what exactly on gun caused the indentations. I thought that perhaps I caused it by "slamming it home".

therooster · 06-06-2005, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axemann

Cartridge was "swelled" with two large indentations on each side.

was this a spent cartridge? i dont understand how it can swell and indent at the same time...

Polymerhead · 06-06-2005, 05:33 PM

Yeah, actually. If I load a full 15 rounds, I have to make sure to seat the magazine really firmly in the gun, and then there is still a slight slight gap between the magazine pad and the gun. There's no trouble if I load 14.

And, no, I'm not accidentally loading 16....I've unloaded them several times thinking that I did somehow get an extra round in - it's always 15.

Sorry, I can't comment on 10-rounders, since I don't have any.

Cheers.

Axemann · 06-06-2005, 06:49 PM

This was a live round.

To answer a previous post: Exact sequence of events leading up to failure. Tactical reload left one round in gun, that round fired and ejected, top round of full magazine failed to feed and jammed slide.

therooster · 06-06-2005, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axemann

This was a live round.

To answer a previous post: Exact sequence of events leading up to failure. Tactical reload left one round in gun, that round fired and ejected, top round of full magazine failed to feed and jammed slide.

did you tap rack? if you did, did the "jammed" round come out and did the following round feed properly?

NMshooter · 06-06-2005, 07:29 PM

Was it a factory round or a reload? I've had similar problems in the past with ammo that I've reloaded for my 45 ACP Kimber. Apparently, I didn't line up the bullet straight enough in the case when I started it in the seating die. This caused a small bulge in the case which made the round jam in the chamber. Fortunately, I was able to eject the round that was only partially chambered without taking it to a gunsmith.

Axemann · 06-06-2005, 07:35 PM

Could not tap rack, could not move slide by hand. Several other people could not move either. Round eventually came out when gunsmith forced the slide.

This was WWB 115 FMJ.

Subsequent to trip to gunsmith, went back to plate range and put about 50 rounds through it without incident.

06-05-2005, 08:20 PM	#1
Axemann XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 7	Anyone else have a problem topping off ? I have had problems in the past getting magazines to seat properly if they were full (10) + 1 in chamber. This is an XD9 4" service with about 1500 rounds through it. These are all Springfield magazines. Saturday in an IDPA match with a tactical reload the slide jammed. I guess this would technically be a failure to feed. Couldn't budge it at all. (Ended up withdrawing and going to gunsmith). I spoke to another guy at the club who also has an XD. He told me to never try to load 10 + 1. He has had same problem. Is this an adjustment issue? Suggestions? Thanks in advance.

06-05-2005, 08:29 PM	#2
gsh341 XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 2,352	Exactly how did the jam occur? What did the gunsmith find? __________________ "For those of us who exercised our privilege to serve our country, I can honestly say we did it proudly and shared a common bond of patriotism that those who were unwilling to answer our country's call will never understand or appreciate." - Dennis Foell

06-06-2005, 05:33 PM	#6
Polymerhead XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: MO, USA Posts: 1,398	Yeah, actually. If I load a full 15 rounds, I have to make sure to seat the magazine really firmly in the gun, and then there is still a slight slight gap between the magazine pad and the gun. There's no trouble if I load 14. And, no, I'm not accidentally loading 16....I've unloaded them several times thinking that I did somehow get an extra round in - it's always 15. Sorry, I can't comment on 10-rounders, since I don't have any. Cheers. __________________ No alarms and no surprises, please.

06-06-2005, 07:29 PM	#9
NMshooter XDTalk Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hobbs, NM Posts: 46	Was it a factory round or a reload? I've had similar problems in the past with ammo that I've reloaded for my 45 ACP Kimber. Apparently, I didn't line up the bullet straight enough in the case when I started it in the seating die. This caused a small bulge in the case which made the round jam in the chamber. Fortunately, I was able to eject the round that was only partially chambered without taking it to a gunsmith. __________________ Not all who wander are lost.

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06-05-2005, 10:55 PM	#3
therooster XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: houston TX Posts: 1,669	the "+1" doesnt matter... its already in the chamber, it doesnt add any extra perssure. a full mag on an XD is very stiff and it takes a bit of force to seat it. just slam that bad boy in there and go to town.

06-06-2005, 04:53 PM	#4
Axemann XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 7	Slamming that bad boy in is what got me in "trouble" or at least I thought so. To answer the previous question--gunsmith put the slide in a vice and "forced" the issue. Not sure how he did it because it happened so fast. Cartridge was "swelled" with two large indentations on each side. He took gun apart and pronounced it fit. Said cartridge "swelled" for unknown reason and would not feed. Not sure what exactly on gun caused the indentations. I thought that perhaps I caused it by "slamming it home".

06-06-2005, 06:49 PM	#7
Axemann XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 7	This was a live round. To answer a previous post: Exact sequence of events leading up to failure. Tactical reload left one round in gun, that round fired and ejected, top round of full magazine failed to feed and jammed slide.

06-06-2005, 07:35 PM	#10
Axemann XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 7	Could not tap rack, could not move slide by hand. Several other people could not move either. Round eventually came out when gunsmith forced the slide. This was WWB 115 FMJ. Subsequent to trip to gunsmith, went back to plate range and put about 50 rounds through it without incident.