High Bore Axis

[Kaboom]

Originally Posted by MyFlippinXD

YES but the SIG is HIGHER than all of them!

Yup MUCH higher, I didn't buy any of my guns for their "bore axis"

[jedi573]

I have a Glock 17 and an XD-9 4". The difference in bore axis when actually shooting them is negligible. The more noticeable thing between the two is the grip angle and even that takes but minutes to adjust, if that. I shoot Master with both so I am a happy camper. (Department quals, not IPSC or something.)

Andy

[BentLink]

If you shoot ISU Free Pistol or Rapid Fire, then go ahead, worry about the bore axis. For a defense pistol, the difference is like stippling vs checkering, more a question of fashion/preference than function. Heck, any revolver will make the XD or other mentioned bore axis distance seem like a hairs-breadth, and still be reasonable.

[MyFlippinXD]

Originally Posted by Kaboom

Yup MUCH higher, I didn't buy any of my guns for their "bore axis"

When I bought my XD I realized how much higher the barrel was on the Sig. I like SIGs and want one bad, but for me the XD was right there. Over the M$P and the GL_CK too!

[MyFlippinXD]

Originally Posted by G60

you're a sissy girl if a couple mm higher bore axis is causing you problems.

DUDE we help and learn from one another. If you wanna do that, do it in the Daisy forum...

~(()~

[MyFlippinXD]

Originally Posted by TexasPO

The difference between Glocks and XD is small in the grand scheme of things. Agreed if you think the small amount of diffrerence between the two makes difference in hits on a target, then you need to shoot more. It should be almost unoticable to an exsperienced shooter. I can not even tell then difference in my Glock and XD.

I recently installed a Lasermax in my xd45 and I am kinda taken back how much I DIDN'T realize that I move when I pull the trigger. With the laser it's right there for me to see.

Need more practice practice practice...and money money money too!

[briang2ad]

They ARE HIGHER than my XD in bore axis - OK maybe the CZ is pretty close. No one complains about CZs or 1911s having a high bore axis!

[Grunt]

A few years back when we were living in Minot, I got a few folks together and did a little informal test. I brought out a lot of my .45s and a few .40 S&W caliber pistols for a side-by-side test. While I didn't have my XD-45 Tactical back then, (I had my USP-45F, Glock 21, Ruger P90, Sig P220, EAA Witness, SA 1911 WWII USGI, and another Auto-Ordnance 1911) I did have the wife's XD-40 Service as well as my 2340 Sigpro, USP-40C, Glock 23 and EAA Witness in .40 S&W to test. The issue here is low bore axis being faster to get back on target and a portion of my tests do touch on this. One stage included firing the El Presidente drill sweeping from left to right to left, reload and again sweep from left to right and back to the left again. The goal here was to place all shots on the kill zone of the B-27 target in the shortest time possible.
What I came away with was that yes, the lower bore axis of the Glock did lead to faster split times between shots so yes, there is some truth to this. However, we were looking at about 2-3 hundreths of a second difference. Personally, I don't see this as a large enough difference to be a major selling point.

[briang2ad]

good post. I think that for the average Joe, you don't see the difference - just like trigger reset.

[repeet]

I have both a Glock 23 and an XD-40.

Yes, I can tell that the bore axis is slightly higher and the XD seems to want to flip slightly more.

Then again the grip angle on the Glock causes your hand to have to point down which changes how the recoil is transfered.

The point is, always rent or find a buddy and, shoot both of them to make up your own mind. (And it's fun too).

The 1911 has had a reputation for barrel flip since the day it was designed. Yet most 1911 gurus will tell you that they have no problem with it. That's because, like all sports, you practice and build up muscle strength and memory.

Which brings us back to what we all know. During stress you won't be able to think about how your weapon operates and to check your grip. You'll simply do what ever you have practiced. So, pick your weapon and shoot, shoot, shoot.