Does the XD's build quality compare to Glock?

[jtkratzer]

If you want a good laugh, post exact same thread over at Glocktalk and see what kind of responses you get.

[imq707s]

Originally Posted by thomasward00

I'm just curious to hear from xd owner with experience with glocks also, I work with duty police officers every day and they are issued glocks and swear by them. They keep telling me that the XD's build quality is inferior.

I know several people that own Glocks, and several that own XD's. As far as fit, finish, and operation go......I think they are both equal. I've never seen any of them (Glocks or XD's) have any kind of jam, FTE, or FTF.

[44 Deerslayer]

I own both. I actually think the XD is built a little better. The Glock has a very thin frame, most bow in a little on the right side just under the slide where it says Made in Austria. Only cosmetic but with the slide off it looks cheap. You can also take the Glock frame and flex it prettty easy with your bare hands. Of course this makes it slightly lighter and helps reduce recoil by flexing when you fire. The skinny steel slide rails that are molded into the frame are what allows the Glock to work fine with little or no lubrication. Very little drag there as opposed to something like a 1911 that has pretty long rails.

Actually my Glock 30 (Mini .45 ACP) is what I usually carry. I do consider the XD safer with it's grip safety. The Glock can be completely rebuilt by almost anyone with minimal skills. There is no fitting required if you use all factory parts. That includes the slide and barrel. My gripe with the XD is it has to go back to SA for any major parts replacement. I'm sure in a few more years that will change.

[Smoke_Works]

Originally Posted by jtkratzer

If you want a good laugh, post exact same thread over at Glocktalk and see what kind of responses you get.

You're not kidding, you'd get flamed if you did that over there. I think it's a testament to the forum members here to be fair and not get into the whole this versus that argument that is so common between the two guns. Each are unique and reliable, they are fine choices, either way you go. I have a Springfield loyalty and the XD fits my shrek hands much better, the grip angle and point and shoot ergonomics just work better for me with the XD

[Blackwater]

Originally Posted by jeepguy

but it is a fact that GLOCKS will fire when out of battery. Not a good thing.

More internet fact huh? Total and complete non-sense.

The trigger bar must be aligned with and engaging the firing pin safety to allow the firing pin to move forward. The trigger can not be pulled, nor will the firing pin safety be engaged by the trigger bar when it is out of battery.

Futhermore, for the constantly uninformed, Glock has never had an 9mm unsupported chambers. Those were initially in .45 and .40 and have also been corrected.

[jeepguy]

Originally Posted by Blackwater

More internet fact huh? Total and complete non-sense.

The trigger bar must be aligned with and engaging the firing pin safety to allow the firing pin to move forward. The trigger can not be pulled, nor will the firing pin safety be engaged by the trigger bar when it is out of battery.

Futhermore, for the constantly uninformed, Glock has never had an 9mm unsupported chambers. Those were initially in .45 and .40 and have also been corrected.

Sorry, did I miss someone post about unsupported 9mm chambers in GLOCKs? My my, we are a bit defensive, aren't we? You seem to be acting the part of cheerleader for Gastons groupies. There have been a few studies/ experiments done showing GLOCKS being capable of firing out of battery.

http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/dimples.html Here is one example.

[Blackwater]

That report was reportedly from 1992. It's a sight known for Glock bashing, based on emotion and not fact. Like I said "internet fact". Yet you completely ignore the mechanical operating principles, or physics in the process that I pointed to in my post. I'm being defensive? Nice try.


If you understood the function of the Glock pistol and others, like Springfield, HK, SW and Sig, Series 80 1911's and on and on... you'd know that the firing pin cannot move forward without the firing pin safety/firing bin block safety being engaged in a functioning pistol. It is mechanically impossible, end of story.

[bountyhunter]

Originally Posted by jeepguy

Probably for a lot of them... but it is a fact that GLOCKS will fire when out of battery. Not a good thing. This isn't a knock on Austria's model T. If they pointed better for me I would own one.

I own both XD and Glock (as well as SIGs). The build quality is comparable, the Glock is easier to disassemble, but the price is that it has an inferior design:

1) The Glock .40's unsupported barrel is just a bad idea altogether, not withstanding their whining about how people should only shoot new ammo in them.

2) The Glock's firing pin "safety" system does not reset when the slide moves like the XD, SIG and Beretta does. That is an inferior design which can allow multiple fire events.

3) The Glocks trigger pull is inferior. I have my G35 trigger tricked out to the max, and it is a light pull (about 2.7#) but it has a creepy feel which can not be eliminated because the trigger pull is loading the striker spring as you pull. The XD slide cocks the striker spring and therefore can have a better pull. I just finished fitting the springer trigger bar in mine to go with the springer sear and the pull is fantastic (almost as good as a 1911) and vastly superior to Glock. Short engagement, sharp crisp break.

[bountyhunter]

Originally Posted by Smoke_Works

You're not kidding, you'd get flamed if you did that over there.

You'll also get banned.

[bountyhunter]

Originally Posted by Blackwater

More internet fact huh? Total and complete non-sense.

The trigger bar must be aligned with and engaging the firing pin safety to allow the firing pin to move forward. The trigger can not be pulled, nor will the firing pin safety be engaged by the trigger bar when it is out of battery.

Baloney. I just checked my G35 and it will fire with the slide at least 0.1" OB.

BTW, the FP safety is not an "either or", the trigger bar section that lifts it is a ramp. With the slide slightly OB, it is still lifting some and the striker can give it an elbow "coming through" charge on the plunger and may fire anyway.

I've never done any experiments firing mine OB (because I'm not insane) but it definitely will fire OB.
The only question is exactly how far OB.