XD40 Tactical as backup gun for Boar hunting? - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

Slaytex · 05-12-2005, 05:07 AM

I'm looking to go over to Tennessee to do some boar hunting later on this year and was curious if using my XD40 Tactical will be a suitable sidearm against boar. I'm also looking to get a Barsto .357 Sig barrel.
Thanks.

XD_Dan · 05-12-2005, 06:22 AM

I was talking to a co-worker of mine who frequently goes hog hunting. He told me that he carries a small, 5-shot .357 revolver as a back up. He also said that most of the other hog hunters that he knows also carry .357 wheelguns.

His logic (as he explained) is that the .357 magnum load has excellent penetration. This logic seems sound to me. The last thing you want, when a wild boar is charging, is inadequate ammo.

How does the .40 cal round stack up against the .357 regarding penetration?

mcb · 05-12-2005, 06:45 AM

I think comparing a 357 Magnum with a short barrel to a 40S&W out of an XD-40T they would be pretty close. The 357 Mag still probably wins in muzzle energy and penitration but I think being able to hit what your shooting at will be more important than the small advantage the 357 would give over the 40S&W. I would load up with some good quality 180 grain FMJ and have fun huntin'

mcb

ttheobald · 05-12-2005, 07:28 AM

At the risk of sounding like a broken record (see Bear hunting thread), I'd recommend minimum .44 mag, and better would be .454. Boars can take a lot of punishment before they realize they're dead. In the instance where you need a backup, you're likely to be hunting in brush where a boar can come on you at very short range - the fewer shots you have to take, the better.

T

Edit: Found a good reference on the last page of this (http://www.magtechammunition.com/buttons/2003CA~1.PDF) for MagTech ammo; other vendors probably have similar charts comparing their rounds. I'd ignore anything over 50 yards, since you're considering a backup weapon. T

Brickboy240 · 05-12-2005, 12:27 PM

I have used a Colt SAA in 44Spl for a hog hunting back-up. Worked for me. i havealso carried my 1911/45acps on the hip for wild pigs, had to put one down with the 45 and it did the job.

I'd say a 40 caliber XD would be fine as a back-up. Its more powerful than what I carried and I felt fine with the 44Spl. As long as its for back-up, it ought to do the job.

-Brickboy240

manygunner · 05-12-2005, 12:35 PM

Hmm, I think all of you wanting to take this gun as a hunting back up for larger game are quite suicidal. The wild boars weigh in at several hundred pounds and have a nasty tendency to not want to die. There was a reason the old boar hunting spears had a crossbar on them, it was to prevent a boar from running up the spear after it had impaled itself. I would not go with anything less then a magnum caliber revolver loaded with heavy slugs and a hot load. But those are just my views on it. I have never hunted (just not into killing anything but cardboard if I can help it) but know a bit about the tennacity of this creature due to my background as a biologist. As it is a back up I would want to make sure that when used in a last ditch defense it would stop the attacking boar, COLD. Anyway, that is my view on it. Good luck and good hunting.

mcb · 05-12-2005, 12:50 PM

Couple random thoughts:

We always used a 22lr to kill all the pig on the farm for butchering, even pigs going close to 1000 lbs.

Your better off hitting with a 40S&W then misssing with a 500S&W. Don't shoot more gun than you can handle.

mcb

manygunner · 05-12-2005, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcb

Couple random thoughts:

We always used a 22lr to kill all the pig on the farm for butchering, even pigs going close to 1000 lbs.

Your better off hitting with a 40S&W then misssing with a 500S&W. Don't shoot more gun than you can handle.

mcb

Hmm, but didn't you just walk up to a docile, domesticated pig and shoot it at point blank range in the head? Not the same as a charging wild boar.

mcb · 05-12-2005, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manygunner

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcb

Couple random thoughts:

We always used a 22lr to kill all the pig on the farm for butchering, even pigs going close to 1000 lbs.

Your better off hitting with a 40S&W then misssing with a 500S&W. Don't shoot more gun than you can handle.

mcb

Hmm, but didn't you just walk up to a docile, domesticated pig and shoot it at point blank range in the head? Not the same as a charging wild boar.

Hmmm... That wasn't really the point but I guess I should have saw it coming. The point was that 120ft-lbs placed properly will do the job and 2500ft-lbs isn't going to so you a bit of good if you can't hit with it.

Shoot as much gun as you can shoot accurately in a bad situation. If you draw your 500S&W in a pinch and miss due to a reflexive flinch you would have been just as well of with a 22lr.

mcb

manygunner · 05-12-2005, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcb

Quote:

Originally Posted by manygunner

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcb

Couple random thoughts:

We always used a 22lr to kill all the pig on the farm for butchering, even pigs going close to 1000 lbs.

Your better off hitting with a 40S&W then misssing with a 500S&W. Don't shoot more gun than you can handle.

mcb

Hmm, but didn't you just walk up to a docile, domesticated pig and shoot it at point blank range in the head? Not the same as a charging wild boar.

Hmmm... That wasn't really the point but I guess I should have saw it coming. The point was that 120ft-lbs placed properly will do the job and 2500ft-lbs isn't going to so you a bit of good if you can't hit with it.

Shoot as much gun as you can shoot accurately in a bad situation. If you draw your 500S&W in a pinch and miss due to a reflexive flinch you would have been just as well of with a 22lr.

mcb

Point well taken. Touche.

05-12-2005, 05:07 AM	#1
Slaytex XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Charlotte Posts: 199	XD40 Tactical as backup gun for Boar hunting? I'm looking to go over to Tennessee to do some boar hunting later on this year and was curious if using my XD40 Tactical will be a suitable sidearm against boar. I'm also looking to get a Barsto .357 Sig barrel. Thanks. __________________ XD-40 Tactical AR-15 w/ too much to list Mossberg 500 USA Edition

05-12-2005, 06:22 AM	#2
XD_Dan XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Huntsville, TX Posts: 887	I was talking to a co-worker of mine who frequently goes hog hunting. He told me that he carries a small, 5-shot .357 revolver as a back up. He also said that most of the other hog hunters that he knows also carry .357 wheelguns. His logic (as he explained) is that the .357 magnum load has excellent penetration. This logic seems sound to me. The last thing you want, when a wild boar is charging, is inadequate ammo. How does the .40 cal round stack up against the .357 regarding penetration? __________________ XD 9mm SC C.C. trigger job, Custom griptape, Pearce extensions XD 9mm Tactical C.C. trigger job, polished ramp/bbl, DGR, 16#recoil spring, Hogue grip, Magwell Texas XD Practical Shooters Association

05-12-2005, 06:45 AM	#3
mcb XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North East Ohio Posts: 2,054	I think comparing a 357 Magnum with a short barrel to a 40S&W out of an XD-40T they would be pretty close. The 357 Mag still probably wins in muzzle energy and penitration but I think being able to hit what your shooting at will be more important than the small advantage the 357 would give over the 40S&W. I would load up with some good quality 180 grain FMJ and have fun huntin' mcb __________________ If at first you don't succeed; RELOAD _ _ _ _ My web site

05-12-2005, 12:27 PM	#5
Brickboy240 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 9,264	I have used a Colt SAA in 44Spl for a hog hunting back-up. Worked for me. i havealso carried my 1911/45acps on the hip for wild pigs, had to put one down with the 45 and it did the job. I'd say a 40 caliber XD would be fine as a back-up. Its more powerful than what I carried and I felt fine with the 44Spl. As long as its for back-up, it ought to do the job. -Brickboy240 __________________ The top 25% of wage earners in America pay 86% of all federal income taxes collected. (according to 2007 IRS website data) Es mejor morir a pie que vivir arrodillado Volvo...the Swedish Brick!

05-12-2005, 12:35 PM	#6
manygunner XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pacific North West Posts: 2,036	Hmm, I think all of you wanting to take this gun as a hunting back up for larger game are quite suicidal. The wild boars weigh in at several hundred pounds and have a nasty tendency to not want to die. There was a reason the old boar hunting spears had a crossbar on them, it was to prevent a boar from running up the spear after it had impaled itself. I would not go with anything less then a magnum caliber revolver loaded with heavy slugs and a hot load. But those are just my views on it. I have never hunted (just not into killing anything but cardboard if I can help it) but know a bit about the tennacity of this creature due to my background as a biologist. As it is a back up I would want to make sure that when used in a last ditch defense it would stop the attacking boar, COLD. Anyway, that is my view on it. Good luck and good hunting. __________________ CZ-Kadet CZ-52 CZ-83 CZ-75B CZ-85 Combat CZ-452 HK USP Compact Walther P99 XD-9 Service XD-9 Tactical Glock 17 Taurus PT-92 AR Taurus .44 Mag Mossberg 500A Remington 870 AR-15 16\" fluted AMD-65 Dragunov SVD STG-58

05-12-2005, 07:28 AM	#4
ttheobald XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 223	At the risk of sounding like a broken record (see Bear hunting thread), I'd recommend minimum .44 mag, and better would be .454. Boars can take a lot of punishment before they realize they're dead. In the instance where you need a backup, you're likely to be hunting in brush where a boar can come on you at very short range - the fewer shots you have to take, the better. T Edit: Found a good reference on the last page of this (http://www.magtechammunition.com/buttons/2003CA~1.PDF) for MagTech ammo; other vendors probably have similar charts comparing their rounds. I'd ignore anything over 50 yards, since you're considering a backup weapon. T

05-12-2005, 12:50 PM	#7
mcb XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North East Ohio Posts: 2,054	Couple random thoughts: We always used a 22lr to kill all the pig on the farm for butchering, even pigs going close to 1000 lbs. Your better off hitting with a 40S&W then misssing with a 500S&W. Don't shoot more gun than you can handle. mcb __________________ If at first you don't succeed; RELOAD _ _ _ _ My web site

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