geting the +1 round in the chamber

[MarKing]

Please excuse my ignorance as I've never owned an XD until just a few days ago and my CCW experience is limited to Sigs, which isn't a bad thing.

I have never thought twice about having a round in the chamber as my Sig has a decocker, but I must say that I'm just a bit hesitant about having one in the chamber of my new XD.

Could someone please dispell my doubts...albeit nicely and courteously?

[Druac]

Well...to begin with, if you are CCW, and you HAVE to use your gun, I doubt you are going to want to take the time to rack the slide to load a round in the chamber.

As for 'safety' or doubts...That is why there is training, practice and a trigger AND grip safety.

If you are not using the XD for CCW...then I wouldn't keep one in the chamber, but that is just my preference. Unless of course you have it locked in a safe, but then why would it matter then?

Originally Posted by MarKing

Please excuse my ignorance as I've never owned an XD until just a few days ago and my CCW experience is limited to Sigs, which isn't a bad thing.

I have never thought twice about having a round in the chamber as my Sig has a decocker, but I must say that I'm just a bit hesitant about having one in the chamber of my new XD.

Could someone please dispell my doubts...albeit nicely and courteously?

[Druac]

Ok...I guess I am confused and showing my newbieness here. But is placing a round in by hand, THEN inserting a full mag, possibly harmful to the extractor? I do this all the time, but I don't just slam it shut, I slowly close the slide with my hand.

Originally Posted by Apdl

The only way to do it with out damaging your extractor in the long run is to load it using the mag don't just put one in the pipe and slam it shut

[1lowlife]

Originally Posted by MarKing

Please excuse my ignorance as I've never owned an XD until just a few days ago and my CCW experience is limited to Sigs, which isn't a bad thing.

I have never thought twice about having a round in the chamber as my Sig has a decocker, but I must say that I'm just a bit hesitant about having one in the chamber of my new XD.

Could someone please dispell my doubts...albeit nicely and courteously?

No, carrying a Sig isn't a bad thing, they are great guns.
But, I would feel safer carrying my XD over my Sig.

With a round in the chamber, what is the difference?
I think it would be roughly the same trigger pull, as far as the DA pull of your Sig vs every pull of your XD.
I don't like the SA of my Sig for conceal and carry.
It is too light, I like a consistent trigger pull in a stressful situation.

At least with the XD you have two more saftey features than the Sig.
One being the grip saftey, and the other the Glock like trigger saftey.
Also you could include the loaded chamber indicator as well.
Ok, the striker indicator too, at least you know if it is cocked/ready to fire if loaded.

The only thing that Sig decocker does is safely lower your hammer from an SA condition back down to a DA.
Unless your Sig is DAO or DAK, but wait, then it wouldn't have a decocker.

I doubt this helps you but I thought I'd chime in anyway.

[Bree]

Originally Posted by MarKing

Please excuse my ignorance as I've never owned an XD until just a few days ago and my CCW experience is limited to Sigs, which isn't a bad thing.

I have never thought twice about having a round in the chamber as my Sig has a decocker, but I must say that I'm just a bit hesitant about having one in the chamber of my new XD.

Could someone please dispell my doubts...albeit nicely and courteously?

XD requires two opposite forces before it will fire. A direct force pulling backwards on the trigger which at the same time deactivates the trigger safety AND the force pushing forward against the grip safety to deactivate it. Only when these two conditions are fulfilled will the gun fire.

A snag of the trigger will not cause the weapon to fire unlike a Glock. You can't inadvertantly leave either safety off as both safeties return to default position when pressure is released. I think it is the safest gun in town.

My XD lives in Condition 1. The only time it is not in condition 1 is when I am out of ammo or I am cleaning it.

[Palmguy]

Originally Posted by Druac

Ok...I guess I am confused and showing my newbieness here. But is placing a round in by hand, THEN inserting a full mag, possibly harmful to the extractor? I do this all the time, but I don't just slam it shut, I slowly close the slide with my hand.

Even letting it go slowly, you're forcing the hook of the extractor to go over the rim of the case. Normally when a round is loaded from a mag, the rim of the case slides up behind the hook of the extractor. I'd personally not use the method that you are using right now.

[digitalexplr]

Originally Posted by MarKing

Please excuse my ignorance as I've never owned an XD until just a few days ago and my CCW experience is limited to Sigs, which isn't a bad thing.

I have never thought twice about having a round in the chamber as my Sig has a decocker, but I must say that I'm just a bit hesitant about having one in the chamber of my new XD.

Could someone please dispell my doubts...albeit nicely and courteously?

An XD in Condition 1 is no different than carrying an revolver, which is always in Condition 1. And the revolver's only safety is not pulling the trigger.

[Philadelphia]

Originally Posted by MarKing

Please excuse my ignorance as I've never owned an XD until just a few days ago and my CCW experience is limited to Sigs, which isn't a bad thing.

I have never thought twice about having a round in the chamber as my Sig has a decocker, but I must say that I'm just a bit hesitant about having one in the chamber of my new XD.

Could someone please dispell my doubts...albeit nicely and courteously?

If you have any doubts, carry it around for usual daily activities and handle it "normally" as you would for at least a few days without a round in the chamber. If the striker indicater stays cocked (which the laws of physics require that it will anyway, but a little "extra" comfort can't hurt), you can be more comfortable that nothing "happened" and nothing will Might be kind of a dumb test I came up with but maybe gives a little extra psychological peace of mind. After you gain confidence with the fact that the striker won't (and can't) be released unless you intend it to, rack the slide to condition 1, reholster, and carry it that way forever.

[1lowlife]

Originally Posted by Philadelphia

If you have any doubts, carry it around for usual daily activities and handle it "normally" as you would for at least a few days without a round in the chamber. If the striker indicater stays cocked (which the laws of physics require that it will anyway, but a little "extra" comfort can't hurt), you can be more comfortable that nothing "happened" and nothing will Might be kind of a dumb test I came up with but maybe gives a little extra psychological peace of mind. After you gain confidence with the fact that the striker won't (and can't) be released unless you intend it to, rack the slide to condition 1, reholster, and carry it that way forever.

That is what I did when I first started to carry my Glock 26 over ten years ago.
I carried a loaded mag with an empty chamber for a week or two until I was comfortable with the gun.
Sold the Glock and bought the XD9sc this year.
I was actually looking to buy a DAK Sig when the salesman showed me the XD.
The Sigs are waaaaaaaaaaaay too high these days.
$750 for a P229 Dak, no bi-tone, no night sights, that's too much $$$$$.
Although I was comfortable carrying the Glock condition one, I feel more comfy carrying (and holding) the XD.
If you were comfortable carrying the Sig chambered, then I would think you would be more comfortable carrying the XD chambered.

[Druac]

Thanks for that info!

Originally Posted by Palmguy

Even letting it go slowly, you're forcing the hook of the extractor to go over the rim of the case. Normally when a round is loaded from a mag, the rim of the case slides up behind the hook of the extractor. I'd personally not use the method that you are using right now.