Is the XD Sub-compact legal in California? - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

J-ville · 10-31-2007, 07:55 AM

A question came up during a conversation last week that has prompted a question. Is the XD Sub-compact legal in California? As an example, I own the XD Sub-compact in 9mm that came new in the box with both a 10 and 16 round magazine. Does the 16 round magazine make the handgun illegal in California or is there something specific about the Sub-compact itself that makes it illegal. If only a 10 round magazine is used is the XD Sub-compact legal in California?

afmo · 10-31-2007, 08:01 AM

You can't have anything higher than 10 rounds in california unless it was purchased prior to the ban.

I live in california and every time i go to an out of state shop or gun show, there are guns new in box with hi cap magazines that have stickers on them that say "not legal in california"

so yeah, its the hi cap that makes it illegal, not the gun.

http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/safeguns_resp.asp

thats the list of springfield handguns certified for sale in california.

**Ed Ely** · 10-31-2007, 08:20 AM

Plus, all firearms have to be certified by
the state of CA to be saleable in that
state.

Here is an update -

Recently Removed Handgun Models

http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/forms/pdf/removed.pdf

Newly Added Handgun Models

http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/for...entlyadded.pdf

Ed

**XDONBOARD** · 10-31-2007, 08:23 AM

Man that sucks, better practice shooting or get multiple clips..... Cant afford to miss. So no Superchargers or hi cap mags in CA! Boo!

**Druac** · 10-31-2007, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XDONBOARD

...better practice shooting or get multiple clips..... Cant afford to miss.

LOL...I would say that regardless of what state you live in...You shouldn't be relying on the amount of lead you can fling for self defense.

My 10 round mag is enough for me to take out 5 assailants if I 'practice shooting'. I really don't feel 'impaired' in any way having 10 vs. 16.

That being said, I don't agree with the ban. The same argument would work to argue against the ban, in that how the hell is 10 vs. 16 rounds going to matter all that much?

hardwarz · 10-31-2007, 09:55 AM

Reading that list made me sick to my stomach. Can't have a Buckmark II? Are you f*cking kidding?

I'll never move to Cali and I'll never vote for any change for a naturalized citizen to become president! (And my parents are naturalized citizens!)

Hardwarz

J-ville · 10-31-2007, 09:58 AM

Sounds like the XD Sub-compact is a go as long as in runs a 10 round magazine. Thanks for your input.

J-ville · 10-31-2007, 10:08 AM

I am glad you practice shooting - it is really important. For my 9 years in law enforcement and doing a few years as an entry man duty on a metro SWAT unit the "10 rounds is enough to take out 5 assailants" works out on the range but not in real life. In 18 months we had five officer involved shootings. Lots of cops involved, lots of bullets flying and the average distance of all the shootings was 7 feet, not 7 yards. When the crap starts to hit the fan you shoot until they stop doing what they were doing that made you draw and fire in the first place. I wish the real world of street combat was clean and easy but its not. It is messy, fast and furious. Some of the cops I worked with who were in our study were excellent officers in tactical situations and on the range. Nothing on the street is real textbook. Keep training on the range and it will give you an edge. The last time I interviewed an officer involved in a shooting I asked, "What would like to have going into the next gunfight?" His response was simple, "More bullets!"

**XDONBOARD** · 10-31-2007, 10:22 AM

True points above..... If you cant get it done in 10 then there is more than likely a bigger problem than just the ammo! BUT if sh!t is going down and adrenalin is pumpin I would much rather have more lead!

Ishpeck · 10-31-2007, 10:43 AM

If it's worth owning, chances are that Kalifornistan won't let you have it.

10-31-2007, 07:55 AM	#1
J-ville XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 10	Is the XD Sub-compact legal in California? A question came up during a conversation last week that has prompted a question. Is the XD Sub-compact legal in California? As an example, I own the XD Sub-compact in 9mm that came new in the box with both a 10 and 16 round magazine. Does the 16 round magazine make the handgun illegal in California or is there something specific about the Sub-compact itself that makes it illegal. If only a 10 round magazine is used is the XD Sub-compact legal in California?

10-31-2007, 08:23 AM	#4
XDONBOARD XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 3,522	Man that sucks, better practice shooting or get multiple clips..... Cant afford to miss. So no Superchargers or hi cap mags in CA! Boo! __________________ Michael XD-45 compact XD-40 sub-compact XD-9 sub-compact I'd rather have my XD and not need it, then need it and not have it.... I hereby certify that the person described hereon has been granted the privilege of carrying a concealed weapon in compliance with Arizona revised statute 13-3112.

10-31-2007, 09:55 AM	#6
hardwarz XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ak-Rowdy, North side Summit County (Akron, OH) Posts: 378	Reading that list made me sick to my stomach. Can't have a Buckmark II? Are you f*cking kidding? I'll never move to Cali and I'll never vote for any change for a naturalized citizen to become president! (And my parents are naturalized citizens!) Hardwarz __________________ Always remember the Menendez brothers legal defense, "Sometimes I miss my mom, but then I reload."

10-31-2007, 09:58 AM	#7
J-ville XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 10	Thanks for the info Sounds like the XD Sub-compact is a go as long as in runs a 10 round magazine. Thanks for your input.

10-31-2007, 10:08 AM	#8
J-ville XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 10	A note for Druac I am glad you practice shooting - it is really important. For my 9 years in law enforcement and doing a few years as an entry man duty on a metro SWAT unit the "10 rounds is enough to take out 5 assailants" works out on the range but not in real life. In 18 months we had five officer involved shootings. Lots of cops involved, lots of bullets flying and the average distance of all the shootings was 7 feet, not 7 yards. When the crap starts to hit the fan you shoot until they stop doing what they were doing that made you draw and fire in the first place. I wish the real world of street combat was clean and easy but its not. It is messy, fast and furious. Some of the cops I worked with who were in our study were excellent officers in tactical situations and on the range. Nothing on the street is real textbook. Keep training on the range and it will give you an edge. The last time I interviewed an officer involved in a shooting I asked, "What would like to have going into the next gunfight?" His response was simple, "More bullets!"

10-31-2007, 08:01 AM	#2
afmo XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,811	You can't have anything higher than 10 rounds in california unless it was purchased prior to the ban. I live in california and every time i go to an out of state shop or gun show, there are guns new in box with hi cap magazines that have stickers on them that say "not legal in california" so yeah, its the hi cap that makes it illegal, not the gun. http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/safeguns_resp.asp thats the list of springfield handguns certified for sale in california.

10-31-2007, 08:20 AM	#3
Ed Ely XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: 37.65N -84.76W (Elev. 932 ft) Posts: 7,652 Blog Entries: 1	Plus, all firearms have to be certified by the state of CA to be saleable in that state. Here is an update - Recently Removed Handgun Models http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/forms/pdf/removed.pdf Newly Added Handgun Models http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/for...entlyadded.pdf Ed

10-31-2007, 10:22 AM	#9
XDONBOARD XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 3,522	True points above..... If you cant get it done in 10 then there is more than likely a bigger problem than just the ammo! BUT if sh!t is going down and adrenalin is pumpin I would much rather have more lead! __________________ Michael XD-45 compact XD-40 sub-compact XD-9 sub-compact I'd rather have my XD and not need it, then need it and not have it.... I hereby certify that the person described hereon has been granted the privilege of carrying a concealed weapon in compliance with Arizona revised statute 13-3112.

10-31-2007, 10:43 AM	#10
Ishpeck XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 4,023	If it's worth owning, chances are that Kalifornistan won't let you have it. __________________ When given a chance to issue letters of marque and reprisal against Bin Laden, Congress voted against it and instead, voted the Patriot Act into law. Tells you who they think their real enemies are. http://www.ishpeck.net/

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