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Old 10-31-2007, 12:19 PM   #21
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Kali needs to fall off in the ocean along with New York !!
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Old 10-31-2007, 12:28 PM   #22
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Kali needs to fall off in the ocean
LOL...It may very well do that some day.
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Old 10-31-2007, 12:30 PM   #23
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Old 10-31-2007, 12:31 PM   #24
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You are allways welcome to move to Ohio. Last time I
checked we still have lots of room left and the mag limit
here is 30! (for now).LOL

In Utah, we don't care about magazine capacity at all.
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Old 10-31-2007, 12:33 PM   #25
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Arizona is a fine place because these lack of laws.

PLUS, If California falls off...... who do you think has the ocean front property suckas!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:10 PM   #26
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They will be illegal for new sale, they won't be illegal if you already own them.
Pistol sales in CA will likely be through the roof leading up to the ban date.

Those in CA: gun up.

One question: does it still take effect even if there are no manufacturers offering pistols with the serial number stamp on casing feature? How can they get away with essentially banning new pistols if nobody makes them with the needed feature? Also, how could it be possible to get a number long enough to be a unique serial number on something as small as a typical casing? Insane.
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:13 PM   #27
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13-round mags are not legal to buy, sell or possess unless you can proove you owned it prior to the ban.

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The law reads....may not be imported, sold or held for sale, given away......it says nothing about buying them or owning them.

It might be a good idea to be able to prove you owned them prior to the ban, but it's not part of the law as I read it.

I believe the burden would be on the DA to prove you imported it or intended to sell it. I can't imagine anyone would give a rat's arse unless you were doing something illegal anyway.

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Old 10-31-2007, 01:19 PM   #28
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I am glad you practice shooting - it is really important. For my 9 years in law enforcement and doing a few years as an entry man duty on a metro SWAT unit the "10 rounds is enough to take out 5 assailants" works out on the range but not in real life. In 18 months we had five officer involved shootings. Lots of cops involved, lots of bullets flying and the average distance of all the shootings was 7 feet, not 7 yards. When the crap starts to hit the fan you shoot until they stop doing what they were doing that made you draw and fire in the first place. I wish the real world of street combat was clean and easy but its not. It is messy, fast and furious. Some of the cops I worked with who were in our study were excellent officers in tactical situations and on the range. Nothing on the street is real textbook. Keep training on the range and it will give you an edge. The last time I interviewed an officer involved in a shooting I asked, "What would like to have going into the next gunfight?" His response was simple, "More bullets!"
Since my only gunfight experience (with anyone shooting back) involved bb's as a kid and paint balls with my kids....this may not be worth much....but.

Both situations bear out what the officer above states. More bullets hurled at the other guy greatly increases your chances of success. In every case when someone ran out of ammo....they were toast.
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:21 PM   #29
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Kali needs to fall off in the ocean along with New York !!
Can you guys wait at least until I retire to another state. I have a few more years to go here.
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Did anyone else notice this in the NOT O.K. in KALI link?

Springfield Armory_____X-Treme Duty w/A.O. Tritium/Polymer, Steel_____.40 S&W/9mm_____Pistol_____4.08"
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