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Old 10-29-2007, 07:41 PM   #1
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Glock vs XD

Let me start by saying I am a newbie and failed to introduce my self and tell the Forum Members and Staff that this is a Great site!!! Featuring a great Hand Gun!!.. I have learned a lot, and have saved many of the helpful hints.

I live in a small township in N.J. and know the Police Chief well he told me if you buy a Glock “be careful not shoot yourself” his service and off duty Guns are Clocks.

Much has been said about how Glock has this and the XD has that and this one shoots better than that one. I test fired both a Glock an Xd in 40 Cal and an Xd in 9mm. I like or rather love!!!! the Xd and put a deposit on a 4 “compact 45 acp over the Glock for numerous reasons grip, trigger pull, size and more both are made and shoot well. The one point that sold me and should sell hose having a hard time deciding was SAFETY. the Glock only has a trigger safety, while the XD has a Grip Safety Trigger Safety and Chambered Round iIndicator, that can be felt and seen

About 2 or 3 years ago an Easton P.A officer with 10 years on the force shot and killed a 9 year veteran (one shot in the back.) while in the gun room at the Station House.. I don’t recall the cal but am almost certain it was a Glock. The officer stated that he does not know how it happened the gun just went off, he later applied for and got early retirement due and a mental disability caused by the shooting; I believe 2.5 million was given to the widow to settle out of court

From what have read and heard the Glock was primarily meant for the Military and Law Enforcement both of which are trained to a higher standard then the average civilian. Draw and Fire (if needed) and do it as quick as possible. I believe XD not only is a safer Hand Gun but it does so without slowing the draw and fire time, compared to the Glock.

Some hot shot lawyer will sue Glock...In court he will show the Judge and Jury both A Glock and the XDl saying they both do the same job shoot and (possibly kill), maybe he will show the number of accidental shooting accidents for both guns.. He might even site the former Surgeon General Josalyn Elders when she said we need safer guns and safer bullets. He will tell them if one can be made safer why not the other..

I think at some point in time whether by Law or Lawsuits Glock will be forced to change their design. The Ford Pinto, Chevrolet Pickups with side mounted fuel tanks, Crown Victoria Gas Tanks, and so many other law suits prove that.


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Old 10-29-2007, 07:50 PM   #2
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Doubtful that they will get sued much at all.

Pretty much all of the NEGLIGENT DISCHARGES on Glocks can be traced right to the person holding the firearm. The cop that shot the other cop in the back in all probability put his booger hook on the bang switch. Even if he didn't notice it that is most likely what happened. People (especially cops and military) start to get lax around firearms and that is what leads to NDs.

Do not blame the firearm becuase the person holding it cannot keep their finger off the damn trigger.

The Glock is just as safe (if not safer less safeties mean less safeties to break) as the XD or any other pistol out there with an actuall thumb activated safety. It's the ape behind the gun that has to make it fire.

Edit- The Pinto and the other vehicles you pointed out had DESIGN FLAWS. There is nothing wrong with the design of the Glock.
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:10 PM   #3
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Glock vs Xd

I know there are more safeties, however I would rather have the XD set up over the Glock(my opinion) and the Chambered round indicator.Not to be a smart ss but a blind man can tell the XD has one in the Chamber.

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Old 10-29-2007, 08:13 PM   #4
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I know there are more safeties, however I would rather have the XD set up over the Glock(my opinion) and the Chambered round indicator.Not to be a smart ss but a blind man can tell the XD has one in the Chamber.

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Glocks have a tactile loaded chamber indicator as well.

The extractor doubles as a LCI. If the little bump on the extractor is pushed out it can be felt by running one's finger along the side of the slide it means that a round is chambered, if it is not the chamber is empty.
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Doubtful that they will get sued much at all.

Pretty much all of the NEGLIGENT DISCHARGES on Glocks can be traced right to the person holding the firearm. The cop that shot the other cop in the back in all probability put his booger hook on the bang switch. Even if he didn't notice it that is most likely what happened. People (especially cops and military) start to get lax around firearms and that is what leads to NDs.

Do not blame the firearm becuase the person holding it cannot keep their finger off the damn trigger.

The Glock is just as safe (if not safer less safeties mean less safeties to break) as the XD or any other pistol out there with an actuall thumb activated safety. It's the ape behind the gun that has to make it fire.

Edit- The Pinto and the other vehicles you pointed out had DESIGN FLAWS. There is nothing wrong with the design of the Glock.
There are some design flaws with the Glock. It is what has earned Glock the rep of AD's. The take down design is a major one. it's not that Glock' aren't good guns, but rather outdated. i think Gaston has gotten lazy. The design hasn't been updated in years and why would they. They have all the contracts they could ever want with PD's and such. To say they don't have flaws is ignorant or arrogant. Either way the stat's don't lie. Not glock bashing, just observations.
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I assume you are talking of having to pull the trigger to get the slide off? You have to do the same thing with the XDs. It's just a matter of triple or even quadruple checking the chamber to make sure there isn't a live round in there.
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this is basically the same thing as a "chevy vs. ford" argument

what it comes down to is what you are personally comfortable with.

i havent fired either yet but i have held both and by just comparing the two visually, and by touch..i choose the XD.

from what ive read, i wont need to worry about an xd9 service.

man i hate illinois and thier stupid 30 day foid card waiting period and thier stupid 72 hour cool down period when purchasing a pistol.

if all goes well ill be moving to MA spring 08
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MA ain't a gun owner utopia by any means.
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MA ain't a gun owner utopia by any means.
im not moving there for gun freedom.

im moving there for a job.

its got to be better than IL.

edit: wow..its actually worse than illinois!...i didnt think that was possible.

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My own opinion is that those that constantly rant about Glock's inherent safety problems, would also hurt themselves with a rock!
If you consider yourself responsible enough to own and operate a handgun, then the Glock is no different than any other gun.
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