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Old 10-16-2007, 06:57 AM   #1
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Am I straying from XD?

I have been eyeballing a Glock 27 (sub compact .40) versus going with another XD, be it for variety or simple concealability. I know the Glock XD battle will be ongoing forever, however I am having a tough time looking at the pros and cons as I narrow down the decision.

I like the Glock's concealability a bit more than the XDSC .40, that's about it.

I have carried a XD40 Service for years now and love the ergonomics, everything about it. Am I just punch drunk on gun love or do I need to stay XD and go SC.

How does the XDSC conceal with owb or ankle rigs? I hate wearing IWB rigs, just makes the pants too tight, which I can do with a big pizza and not need a sidearm for.

Talk to me guys.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:05 AM   #2
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The glock 27 is no more concealable than the XDSC, I have both. I would go with a good Kydex OWB holster with the XD. Ankle rigs blow. I tried three different kinds and they all suck. It feels like your wearing a small kid wrapped around your ankle. Then when you take it off, you still walk funny because your leg is use to the heavy pistol. This goes for the glock 26/27 and the XDSC. If your a lefty I'd go XD for sure. Get the one that has a better price, but don't forget that some of your service holsters may still work on the XDSC. That could save you money right there.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:11 AM   #3
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Yeah, I was thinking about the holster deal. I'm a big dude and carry my service XD in a Don Hume H721 Open Top, it is snug as a bug in a rug, leans in nicely, so I was wondering if the SC would be a nice little fit as well. the dimensions and weights are almost similar with the G27 and XDSC .40 which is why I am having a hard time with the next purchase. I shoot the hell out of my XD, by that I mean the ergonomics for my baseball mitt hands love the XD, hands down the best shooter I fit.
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I have been eyeballing a Glock 27 (sub compact .40) versus going with another XD, be it for variety or simple concealability. I know the Glock XD battle will be ongoing forever, however I am having a tough time looking at the pros and cons as I narrow down the decision.

I like the Glock's concealability a bit more than the XDSC .40, that's about it.

I have carried a XD40 Service for years now and love the ergonomics, everything about it. Am I just punch drunk on gun love or do I need to stay XD and go SC.

How does the XDSC conceal with owb or ankle rigs? I hate wearing IWB rigs, just makes the pants too tight, which I can do with a big pizza and not need a sidearm for.

Talk to me guys.
You are obviously suffering from repressed guilt. You already know the advantages of the XD over the Glock and you know that the only major issue with the Glock is the ergonomics of the grip. Your are trying to convince yourself that it's okay to disregard what you brain is telling you. To answer your question neither the XD SC or the Glock 26/27 work all that well in an ankle rig, in fact only very light small semi autos and revolvers work in ankle rigs. Don't believe what you see on TV ankle rigs are really a pain in the butt and should only be used if all other places are taken, (my $.02). You haven't lived until you've had a gun clunk on the floor while collecting the offering in church, "No Mrs. Spencer I'm not trying to tell you a hand full of change is'nt enough. Would you please hold the basket while I pull my gun back up." While I'm spewing personal opinions I think the 40 is just to snappy to use in any sub compact and I'm not sure that with the velocity lost in the short barrel it is any more effective that the 9mm. My choice would be a 45 Compact 4". Larger bullet, retain the velocity, and just as easy to conceal as a Sub Compact, it won't work in an ankle holster either. You won't have to get any new holsters as it fits equally well in a 9mm/40 holster. Nothing conceals as well as an IWB holster, if you don't want to buy bigger pants take a look at bellyband holsters, they actually work well if you have someone change the pouch from vertical to a cant which is easily done. Did I say how much I don't like ankle holsters?
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thanks, I am still going to evaluate the SC for the .40. I want to go as light and small as possible, all the while staying with a strong brand name, taking into consideration the fine performance of my existing XD. sig doesn't make anything lightweight, Glock has a couple options, the Kahr PM40 is the perfect size but has reliability issues...damn, gun love is tough love at times.

I am going to check out the SC and see how well it fits into my existing holster that I wear daily, and am still an ankle rig proponent, just because if it's nice out I can still carry it with slacks on...cords work best, and still have access to it, with a garter, I have had good luck carrying the heavy Ruger SP101 without issues. IWB just isn't that comfy to me. Thanks for the input.
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i love my 2 XD's (.40 service, 9 SC). never gonna get used to a glock but will say they're also excellent handguns.

i can at times ankle carry the SC for long car trips but usually switch to IWB or satchel carry when getting gas, etc.

now, not to talk you out of the XD but there are other things out there. I have a bersa .380 that ankle carrys great. also incredible IWB b/c it's so thin. in the same vein, the kahr's are more expensive, "Nicer" guns in the same vein (but i'd never trade my bersa for one).

you can also get into the keltec for ultimate concealability/pocket carry.

i guess you need to assess what is most important. I like ankle carry only when i'm in the vehicle. If you're a delivery person and get jacked at the door or to/from car, clearing an ankle holster could cost you precious seconds you don't have.

if you can pull off OWB, go for it. I've tried it but can only pull it off in winter with a light jacket over it. if you have to problem doing it, then i'd say go XD. heck, get the XD compact or chop the grip on yours. most of the printing/concealment issues is probably more with the grip that the extra 1" on the barrel.

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Opinions are like you know what; everybody has one but here's my opinion . . .

The XD subcompacts are slightly more concealable than the glocks. The overall length of the pistol is slightly shorter (due to grip angle if I remember right) as is the length of the slide (I remember comparing them at the shop when I bought my XD -- my memory might be faulty but that's what I remember).

If you are already accustomed to the grip angle of the XD, you will have to adjust slightly to properly aim the glock. I'm not telling you anything you don't already know but it would be better to get used to a particular grip angle and stick with it, otherwise you will hesitate when point shooting. If you are used to the XD, I'd stick with the XD.
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I was thinking along the same lines, be it muscle memory, trigger pull, grip angle, or familiarity with XD, I am still probably going to lean back to the old faithful. My service model has performed flawlessly since day one, right out of the box, the only change I made was a stainless Don's guide rod and Springfield kindly offering to refinish my slide with that gorgeous teflon non stick finish that can't even smudge.
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My choice would be a 45 Compact 4". Larger bullet, retain the velocity, and just as easy to conceal as a Sub Compact, it won't work in an ankle holster either.
My thoughts exactly. The .45 compact is about 1/4 inch taller (with 10 rd mag) than the .40SC. It is also only about 1/2 inch longer. Unless you're a really little dude, I can't see how either one really conceals that much better than the other. And with the .45 you have....well...a .45.
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Go ahead, get a Glock and a Sig, too.
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