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primeduck · 10-13-2007, 04:31 AM

If you don't have an attached light on your XD/or handgun of your choice, what is the best way to hold a small flashlight, like a Mini-Mag, and also grip your handgun?

mandohack · 10-13-2007, 08:24 AM

I forget after whom it's named, but the most commonly taught method involves holding the light in your support hand with the rear of the light towards the thumb, the front parallel with the bore axis pointing down-range at the meaty portion of the palm on the pinky side. Bring the support hand wrist up under the firing hand wrist and bend the support hand up so the hands are back-to-back. Yes, it's not comfortable.

Ideally you want a flashlight with a tailcap on/off switch of some sort; twisting a flashlight on does nothing for light discipline.

Krackels · 10-13-2007, 02:39 PM

There are several different methods advocated.

http://www.outdoors.net/site/feature...+N+SearchTerm+
http://www.imakenews.com/valhalla/e_....cfm?x=b11,0,w

this deserves a read: The Harries method/modified Harries/reverse Harries

enfurno · 10-13-2007, 03:27 PM

That Valhalla video is pretty interesting. That would be a good time for sure.

The Knight Of Light · 10-13-2007, 03:37 PM

I like neck index, but I have used Harries and the Surefire technique. All are good techniques you just need to practice them.

Rob Pincus · 10-14-2007, 06:06 AM

Thanks for pointing out the article I put in our newsletter. I try to simplify the techniques ... use the light to find & identify, use the firearm to deal with the threat.

We also had Mark Warren from Strategos Inernational out at Valhalla last spring. He and Vaughn Baker really put out good information on low light issues. Their curriculum has continued to progress, mature and refine itself over the years. I strongly recommend them for anyone loking for a multi-day course dedicated to integrating the flashlight with the firearm.

-RJP

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10-13-2007, 08:24 AM	#2
mandohack XDTalk Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 74	Flashlight method I forget after whom it's named, but the most commonly taught method involves holding the light in your support hand with the rear of the light towards the thumb, the front parallel with the bore axis pointing down-range at the meaty portion of the palm on the pinky side. Bring the support hand wrist up under the firing hand wrist and bend the support hand up so the hands are back-to-back. Yes, it's not comfortable. Ideally you want a flashlight with a tailcap on/off switch of some sort; twisting a flashlight on does nothing for light discipline.

10-13-2007, 02:39 PM	#3
Krackels XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeastern PA Posts: 18,749 Blog Entries: 5	There are several different methods advocated. http://www.outdoors.net/site/feature...+N+SearchTerm+ http://www.imakenews.com/valhalla/e_....cfm?x=b11,0,w this deserves a read: The Harries method/modified Harries/reverse Harries __________________ "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." --Benjamin Franklin America's Third Parties --- Duping the Foolish and Idealistic since 1832. PA Roll Call .................... My Blog

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enfurno XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 891	That Valhalla video is pretty interesting. That would be a good time for sure. __________________ XD9 Service model Owner/Operator Net Presence, Inc.

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10-14-2007, 06:06 AM	#6
Rob Pincus XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 21	Thanks for pointing out the article I put in our newsletter. I try to simplify the techniques ... use the light to find & identify, use the firearm to deal with the threat. We also had Mark Warren from Strategos Inernational out at Valhalla last spring. He and Vaughn Baker really put out good information on low light issues. Their curriculum has continued to progress, mature and refine itself over the years. I strongly recommend them for anyone loking for a multi-day course dedicated to integrating the flashlight with the firearm. -RJP __________________ Combat Focus Shooting Book & DVD Combat Focus Podcast! I.C.E. Training Company.

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