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MisFire · 04-19-2005, 12:55 PM

In my XDSC .40 I sometimes get a FTF on a certain type of bullet shape.

Would it hurt to use a dremel tool to open up the feed ramp area on the frame??

TomSwift · 04-19-2005, 02:00 PM

I wouldn't do that. You're likely to cause it not to feed any type of ammo.
What type are you having trouble with? My 9mm SC feeds everything.

MisFire · 04-19-2005, 02:44 PM

It was the Federal Personal Protection ammo (can't remember the exact one). The bullet shape was almost parallel with the case lines.It looked like it hung up right at that feed ramp area.
And thinking just widening the feed area on the frame would help.

But I'll just leave it alone for now and try shooting another box of the same ammo to see.

Thanks

The Tengu · 04-19-2005, 02:49 PM

It would probably be better for you to open up the feed lips on your magazines to make the rounds sit a little bit higher.

**agalindo** · 04-19-2005, 03:06 PM

If you decide to go with the feed ramp alteration I would suggest just polishing the ramp and maybe just slightly rounding the sharp edge but not widening or expanding the freed ramp.

mr0w1 · 04-19-2005, 03:11 PM

Please, please please think twice and three times before taking a Dremel tool to any gun, ever. I use the Federal Personal Protection 180gr Hydrashoks, and have never had a problem from them. I'd concur w/ The Tengu and try messing with the magazine lips first.

**agalindo** · 04-19-2005, 03:16 PM

Like MrOw1 said don't use a dremel do it by hand. It's slow and time consuming but it's also the only way to make sure you don't mess up.
Better yet send it to SA and have them polish it for you.

kraigster414 · 04-19-2005, 04:56 PM

I have read many similar posts here and at other sites comparing the use of a Dremel to the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Let's be specific. Using a Dremel with FELT tip and a little polishing compound applied, e.g. Flitz is not going to harm your precious barrel if used sensibly. If anything, if will improve feed reliability in a heretofore unreliable barrel. What you don't want to do is alter the geometry of your feedramp. Gently polishing back and forth at 3-5K RPM is suggested - feedramp, hood, and chamber. Another misconception is that the shinier the finish the more "work" that was done to the barrel. The brightness of the shine is due in large part to the chemical properties of the polish. It doesn't take much to acheive a mirror shine with Flitz, non-abraisive polish.

I have polished all my barrels - Glocks, SA, Keltecs, Kahr in this manner. All feed 100 percent reliably, zero problems to date. In fact, I guarantee, if you don't polish the barrel of a Keltec P3AT, your chances of feed and extraction problems are multiplied significantly.

So let's be sensible about this. There is a big difference between chopping off metal with a Dremel and steel bit vs. and polishing with a felt tip and a little polishing compound.

mr0w1 · 04-19-2005, 05:01 PM

Kraigster, I agree, but it is very easy to get carried away and do serious damage in a very short period of time with a Dremel. I personally prefer to play it safe and do it by hand. However, if you (you in genereal, not you personally) have experience with a Dremel, and you're comfortable with the operation, go ahead.

The Tengu · 04-19-2005, 07:15 PM

A Dremel is a great way to **** something up really fast.

04-19-2005, 12:55 PM	#1
MisFire XDTalk Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carrollton, Texas Posts: 95	XDSC feed ramp question In my XDSC .40 I sometimes get a FTF on a certain type of bullet shape. Would it hurt to use a dremel tool to open up the feed ramp area on the frame?? __________________ \"Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.\"

04-19-2005, 02:00 PM	#2
TomSwift XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 1,133	I wouldn't do that. You're likely to cause it not to feed any type of ammo. What type are you having trouble with? My 9mm SC feeds everything. __________________ Don't handicap your children by making their lives easy. Get Your Free Targets Here Ultrasonic Gun Cleaning

04-19-2005, 02:44 PM	#3
MisFire XDTalk Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carrollton, Texas Posts: 95	It was the Federal Personal Protection ammo (can't remember the exact one). The bullet shape was almost parallel with the case lines.It looked like it hung up right at that feed ramp area. And thinking just widening the feed area on the frame would help. But I'll just leave it alone for now and try shooting another box of the same ammo to see. Thanks __________________ \"Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.\"

04-19-2005, 02:49 PM	#4
The Tengu XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 1,766	It would probably be better for you to open up the feed lips on your magazines to make the rounds sit a little bit higher. __________________ The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard. United States Code, Title 10, section 311, paragraph (a)

04-19-2005, 03:11 PM	#6
mr0w1 XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,525	Please, please please think twice and three times before taking a Dremel tool to any gun, ever. I use the Federal Personal Protection 180gr Hydrashoks, and have never had a problem from them. I'd concur w/ The Tengu and try messing with the magazine lips first. __________________ guns.freaksho.net - My awesome gun website! More guns than ever! (Last updated: July 24, 2006)

04-19-2005, 04:56 PM	#8
kraigster414 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Upper Himalayas Posts: 1,436	I have read many similar posts here and at other sites comparing the use of a Dremel to the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Let's be specific. Using a Dremel with FELT tip and a little polishing compound applied, e.g. Flitz is not going to harm your precious barrel if used sensibly. If anything, if will improve feed reliability in a heretofore unreliable barrel. What you don't want to do is alter the geometry of your feedramp. Gently polishing back and forth at 3-5K RPM is suggested - feedramp, hood, and chamber. Another misconception is that the shinier the finish the more "work" that was done to the barrel. The brightness of the shine is due in large part to the chemical properties of the polish. It doesn't take much to acheive a mirror shine with Flitz, non-abraisive polish. I have polished all my barrels - Glocks, SA, Keltecs, Kahr in this manner. All feed 100 percent reliably, zero problems to date. In fact, I guarantee, if you don't polish the barrel of a Keltec P3AT, your chances of feed and extraction problems are multiplied significantly. So let's be sensible about this. There is a big difference between chopping off metal with a Dremel and steel bit vs. and polishing with a felt tip and a little polishing compound. __________________ "Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle." - George Burns

04-19-2005, 05:01 PM	#9
mr0w1 XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,525	Kraigster, I agree, but it is very easy to get carried away and do serious damage in a very short period of time with a Dremel. I personally prefer to play it safe and do it by hand. However, if you (you in genereal, not you personally) have experience with a Dremel, and you're comfortable with the operation, go ahead. __________________ guns.freaksho.net - My awesome gun website! More guns than ever! (Last updated: July 24, 2006)

04-19-2005, 07:15 PM	#10
The Tengu XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 1,766	A Dremel is a great way to **** something up really fast. __________________ The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard. United States Code, Title 10, section 311, paragraph (a)

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