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Jmanwit · 05-12-2007, 11:59 PM

Do you think that the XD would be a good special forces weapon? .45 5" would be great. The HK Mk. 23 is a great, accurate weapon, but it is really big. What our your thoughts?

Ishpeck · 05-13-2007, 09:55 AM

M1911!!!

mattjohnston87 · 05-13-2007, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jmanwit

Do you think that the XD would be a good special forces weapon? .45 5" would be great. The HK Mk. 23 is a great, accurate weapon, but it is really big. What our your thoughts?

I would say it is a great option.

Will it ever happen??? Most likely not.

Something about the 'guvment' and their likeness of a slide mounted safety.

Matt

Mr. Wolf · 05-13-2007, 11:32 AM

I think that the XD-45 would be a fine weapon.... but......
Items missing when "stock" include: night/low vis sights, ambi slide release, lanyard loop, threaded barrel, adjustable backstrap (grip), might be more I'm missing.
Some of the listed items are easy fixes or have drop in products already available, but the ambi slide release and adjustable backstrap will require more homework.
IMHO, currently the S&W M&P .45 or the Beretta PX4 (if it comes out in .45) would be the leading candidates.

Just ramblings from a drunken typist... carry on and as always, cheers.

The Knight Of Light · 05-13-2007, 11:43 AM

The best SOCOM pistol is the one the operators choose. Let them pick their own pistols. If I was an Operator I would choose a high quality 1911 most likely a Wilson or a Nighthawk. If it had to have the ability to accept a suppressor, then I would get the newest HK 45.

Jmanwit · 05-13-2007, 11:44 AM

Good point. If I was in special forces, I would use it!

Mr. Wolf · 05-13-2007, 09:12 PM

SOCOM is a ginormous organization, and not all personnel are door kickers. In reality support personnel greatly outnumber the users. And there's even pilots, comm guys, JAGs etc. you've got to arm. Thus the need for a standardized pistol.

Yes, in an ideal world, pick your own weapon and ammo, but alas... it's the military.

Cheers,

and no, for the previously mentioned reasons, 1911 won't make it.

hatingthesuck · 05-13-2007, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wolf

SOCOM is a ginormous organization, and not all personnel are door kickers. In reality support personnel greatly outnumber the users. And there's even pilots, comm guys, JAGs etc. you've got to arm. Thus the need for a standardized pistol.

Yes, in an ideal world, pick your own weapon and ammo, but alas... it's the military.

Cheers,

and no, for the previously mentioned reasons, 1911 won't make it.

correct, and servicemembers change units so frequently that the armory should be able to quickly issue them and unissue the weapons without any trouble since they have one standard... now if key personel were allowed to use their own pistols? would never happen, but would be nice..

The Knight Of Light · 05-13-2007, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by hatingthesuck

now if key personel were allowed to use their own pistols? would never happen, but would be nice..

Who says they don't?

I saw some pretty cool stuff in the Stan and some other places of nastiness.

Op4guy · 05-14-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Knight Of Light

Who says they don't...

The US Govt says they don't. Personally owned weapons are not allowed. Now that does not mean that the govt issued items aren't modified to enhance an individuals skills/needs.

That being said, I have seen, HKs, 1911s, even a few Glocks...by and far the common standard is the M9. It is a tough and well built weapon when properly outfitted and cared for. Biggest reason troops say it sucks is they don't know how to shoot or maintain it.

I have heard many times that a 9mm won't knock a man down but everytime I offer to shoot someon so they can prove me wrong they decline.

05-12-2007, 11:59 PM	#1
Jmanwit XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Southern Kalifornia Posts: 1,200	SOCOM use Do you think that the XD would be a good special forces weapon? .45 5" would be great. The HK Mk. 23 is a great, accurate weapon, but it is really big. What our your thoughts? __________________ Everyone else hase one... http://jmanwit.blogspot.com/ *God Doesn't Let The Angels Die...* Springfield Armory Xtreme Duty .45 ACP The .45 ACP - 230 grains of freedom! Remington 870 Security 12 gauge M1 Garand "The single greatest battle implement ever devised by man" - A great American

05-13-2007, 09:55 AM	#2
Ishpeck XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 3,733	M1911!!! __________________ Fire. Fire is the solution. Politics is ugly. Fire is pretty. Seems like a good trade to me. http://www.ishpeck.net/

05-13-2007, 11:32 AM	#4
Mr. Wolf XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NC Posts: 300	I think that the XD-45 would be a fine weapon.... but...... Items missing when "stock" include: night/low vis sights, ambi slide release, lanyard loop, threaded barrel, adjustable backstrap (grip), might be more I'm missing. Some of the listed items are easy fixes or have drop in products already available, but the ambi slide release and adjustable backstrap will require more homework. IMHO, currently the S&W M&P .45 or the Beretta PX4 (if it comes out in .45) would be the leading candidates. Just ramblings from a drunken typist... carry on and as always, cheers. __________________ Mr. Wolf - "That's 30 minutes away, I'll be there in 10."

05-13-2007, 11:43 AM	#5
The Knight Of Light XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 8,675 Blog Entries: 12	The best SOCOM pistol is the one the operators choose. Let them pick their own pistols. If I was an Operator I would choose a high quality 1911 most likely a Wilson or a Nighthawk. If it had to have the ability to accept a suppressor, then I would get the newest HK 45. __________________ No Matter Where You Go, There You Are. USPSA #L3077 What a great number!!! http://theknightoflight.blogspot.com/ Creator of TOP 'O' THE PAGE!!! Moose Fight

05-13-2007, 11:44 AM	#6
Jmanwit XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Southern Kalifornia Posts: 1,200	Good point. If I was in special forces, I would use it! __________________ Everyone else hase one... http://jmanwit.blogspot.com/ *God Doesn't Let The Angels Die...* Springfield Armory Xtreme Duty .45 ACP The .45 ACP - 230 grains of freedom! Remington 870 Security 12 gauge M1 Garand "The single greatest battle implement ever devised by man" - A great American

05-13-2007, 09:12 PM	#7
Mr. Wolf XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NC Posts: 300	SOCOM is a ginormous organization, and not all personnel are door kickers. In reality support personnel greatly outnumber the users. And there's even pilots, comm guys, JAGs etc. you've got to arm. Thus the need for a standardized pistol. Yes, in an ideal world, pick your own weapon and ammo, but alas... it's the military. Cheers, and no, for the previously mentioned reasons, 1911 won't make it. __________________ Mr. Wolf - "That's 30 minutes away, I'll be there in 10."

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