Shooting Question

[AZXD]

I am new to the semi-auto scene having used revolvers up until about a month ago, so my question is this. When I slow fire, I can get groups of 3-4 inches all day long at 5yards and 6-9 at 10yards, yet if I speed things up, my groups reduce to about 2 inches at 5 and 3-5 at 10. I understand that I am pushing as the smaller groups are about 2 inches low of center at 5yrds. But I can't figure out what I am doing more right when pulling the trigger as soon as I think I am back on target.

Without watching me shoot I realize this might be hard to analyze, but does anyone have any suggestions?

[The Knight Of Light]

Good question. I hope someone knows cause I have still not figured it out.
Watch all the way to the end on this one for a really good two shot group.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...31439907481248

[deepdiver]

Maybe your front sight focus is better when you fire more quickly.

[40SWXDSHOOTER]

You are watching your front sight more when shooting fast, you have more, or better sight focus.
When I was teaching carry class people always shot smaller groups when doing the rapid fire part (6 shots in 6 seconds) of the shooting test then they did in the slow fire part of the test (6 shots in 30 seconds)

[Loves2Shoot]

People seem to shoot better when they react to their sight picture versus trying to "get" a group.

[Alaskapopo]

Originally Posted by AZXD

I am new to the semi-auto scene having used revolvers up until about a month ago, so my question is this. When I slow fire, I can get groups of 3-4 inches all day long at 5yards and 6-9 at 10yards, yet if I speed things up, my groups reduce to about 2 inches at 5 and 3-5 at 10. I understand that I am pushing as the smaller groups are about 2 inches low of center at 5yrds. But I can't figure out what I am doing more right when pulling the trigger as soon as I think I am back on target.

Without watching me shoot I realize this might be hard to analyze, but does anyone have any suggestions?

Sometimes when you are firing rapidly you don't have time to flinch. Of course some people flinch more when shooting fast because they start yanking on the trigger. Its hard to say without seeing you shoot.
Pat

[D_Fence]

I see people trying to pull the trigger so slowly through the break that their gun is shaking and they might not realize it. You don't want to squeeze the trigger so slowly through the break that you can feel every last nanometer of striker tab and sear rubbing against each other for what seems like an eternity. This creates harmful tension and movement. They shoot better when they pick up the pace because they squeeze the trigger more confidently.

Slow fire just means you get more time to create a sight picture. It doesn't mean you squeeze the trigger as slowly as possible.

So, next time you slow-fire, take up the slack in the trigger as usual to engage the sear, but then squeeze the trigger straight back through the break with the same confident and deliberate feeling you have when you rapid fire. It might be a tad slower, but not by much.

[D_Fence]

Originally Posted by Loves2Shoot

react to their sight picture

That is an excellent way to say what I was trying to get across. Slow fire just gives you more time to create an acceptable sight picture, but you still have to react to it once you see it. Instead, what I see a lot of are shooters who presumably got a good sight picture 5 seconds ago and are still slowly pulling the trigger through the break. The best they can hope for is that they still have a good sight picture when the gun finally goes Bang.

[The Knight Of Light]

This is a drill you can do to practice watching your sights.

http://www.andersonshooting.com/prodvids.htm

The bottom drill called a Bill Drill. Basically you dump the ammo in the mag as fast as you can pull the trigger, but you are watching your front sight the entire time. That's it. Just watch that sight jump back and forth. After a while you get used to seeing it move and it goes right back to the target. Here's a little history.

The Bill Drill is a training exercise named for its originator, Bill Wilson. The drill is very simple: Start from 7 yards, facing one IPSC target. Draw and fire six As in two seconds. It's harder than it sounds.

Remember it is a sight watching drill, not a group making drill. once you can concentrate on the sights moving the action of the pistol won't make you flinch, jerk, or do anything else wrong.

[AZXD]

Thank you all,
I will take this knowledge with me to the range and try it out.