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Deacon51 · 03-26-2007, 11:24 AM

Now what? This is my first handgun. I grew up with long guns, and carried a glock on watch in the Navy, but never owned a handgun myself.

So, what else should I need when I got to pick it up in 8 to 10 days? (I hate Maryland)

Cleaning kit?
Secure storage?

What else?

I plain on shooting paper a good bit, and I would like to maybe check out IDPA shooting.

atmiller · 03-26-2007, 11:42 AM

Ammo. Lots and lots of ammo.

If you have an Academy Sports, get Monarch brand ammo. After that, Winchester White Box from WalMart is relatively inexpensive.

slugger6 · 03-26-2007, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by atmiller

Ammo. Lots and lots of ammo.

+1 on that!

atmiller · 03-26-2007, 12:08 PM

Your XD will not be as finicky about ammo as your Glock was, so don't be afraid to buy whatever ammo is least expensive to use for target practice. If you are using it for self-defense, pick up some good hollow-point ammo as well.

KingofHearts · 03-26-2007, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Deacon51

carried a glock on watch in the Navy

+1 for the NAVY! Im getting ready to enlist myself. Im currently studying up on the creed, general orders, etc... How long were you in?

Deacon51 · 03-26-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KingofHearts

+1 for the NAVY! Im getting ready to enlist myself. Im currently studying up on the creed, general orders, etc... How long were you in?

I served 10 years, been out 2. I still work with the Navy as a Contractor, but some times I still miss it.

Do you know what Rate (job) your going to get?

KingofHearts · 03-26-2007, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Deacon51

I served 10 years, been out 2. I still work with the Navy as a Contractor, but some times I still miss it.

Do you know what Rate (job) your going to get?

Not yet, havent been down to MEPS. I took the ASVAB last week though, got a 73. I didnt study though so im considering taking it again just because I know I could have done better had I brushed up on some things first. But, the recruiters said it was a very good score so I dont know. Im looking at a few rates CTI, IT, MA, STG-AEF Im rying to research to get an idea of what id like to do and also get to where I wanna be weight wise before going into MEPS. What was your rate? Any advice?

Deacon51 · 03-26-2007, 01:40 PM

If you want to work with Computers, CTN... not IT DEMAND to get CTN! Don't back down.

If you want to play with the SEALS, or be a SEAL, or do some real cool SEAL like stuff, CTR. (Special Boats is even more fun!)

CTI would be alright, a good but of overlap with a CTR plus the language, and bonus pay if your good.

MA, Is that open to new recruits? It's been a wile, and it's one that changes a good bit. It's overmanned one year and you can't get rank, undermanned the next and your working like a dog. When I was in you had to be a E-5 in a source rate before becoming a Master at Arms. It's good work if you can get it.

KingofHearts · 03-27-2007, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Deacon51

If you want to work with Computers, CTN... not IT DEMAND to get CTN! Don't back down.

If you want to play with the SEALS, or be a SEAL, or do some real cool SEAL like stuff, CTR. (Special Boats is even more fun!)

CTI would be alright, a good but of overlap with a CTR plus the language, and bonus pay if your good.

MA, Is that open to new recruits? It's been a wile, and it's one that changes a good bit. It's overmanned one year and you can't get rank, undermanned the next and your working like a dog. When I was in you had to be a E-5 in a source rate before becoming a Master at Arms. It's good work if you can get it.

Yeah they changed the MA rating after 9/11 because they wanted to increase their forces so now you can go str8 into it. I havent been able to find too much info on CTN since its new. It seem interesting though. But I have no clue what advancement is like in that rating. I want something that has excellent advancement oppurtunity, im also trying to get my degrees while I am in. Know much about CTN like advancement, signing bonuses??? lol

Deacon51 · 03-27-2007, 06:45 AM

I was a CTR1 (SW/AW) when I got out. I got out because they wouldn't let me change to CTN since I was listed as "Mission Critical" on some piece of paper.

The big thing about the CTN rate, Vs. the IT rate is the Security Clearance. Having a Security Clearance pretty much means you will always have a job, and that job will pay 40 or 50% more than it would with out a clearance. Less sea duty too, if you go to sea, most of the time it will not be as a member of the ships crew. You will just show up, ride the boat/ship to the location, and do your thing. No watch standing, no working on the mess decks washing dishes and cleaning bathrooms.

There are some draw backs to that, like not having a rack, or having a crappy rack with dripping pips over it, and the ships crew may give you a hard time as a "rider"... but it's not bad, and most of the time your behind the green door anyway.

As a IT, you would build and work on computer networks, databases and maybe even do a little programing, as a CTN you will all of that, but also learn, for lack of a better term, active hacking and counter hacking. Not to mention cryptology... and how to break it.

Any CT rate is going to have very rapid advancement, and high re-enlistment bonuses compared to the rest of the Navy. It's not uncommon to see CT's make E-7 in 10 or less.

The only thing is I'm not sure if they opened CTN to recruits, I think so since I saw a 3rd class the other day that was a CTN... I haven't really been keeping up with the times... and most of my friends that where here when I got out have transferred. But if it's open, and if your like computers, it's by far the best rating in the Navy...

Plus the training is at Corry station in Pensacola.... some hate it there, but Corry is my favorite base I have ever been to!

03-26-2007, 11:24 AM	#1
Deacon51 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 194	Just got a new XD9 Secivce Bi-tone Now what? This is my first handgun. I grew up with long guns, and carried a glock on watch in the Navy, but never owned a handgun myself. So, what else should I need when I got to pick it up in 8 to 10 days? (I hate Maryland) Cleaning kit? Secure storage? What else? I plain on shooting paper a good bit, and I would like to maybe check out IDPA shooting.

03-26-2007, 11:42 AM	#2
atmiller XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 883	Ammo. Lots and lots of ammo. If you have an Academy Sports, get Monarch brand ammo. After that, Winchester White Box from WalMart is relatively inexpensive. __________________ NRA Life Member XD-40 Subcompact XD-9 Service with laser sight XD-9 Tactical with Storm Lake Barrel, mag well, CobraChrome, Williams Firesights, Drop-In Sear and Trigger Bar XD-40 Tactical with mag well, Don's Guide Rod & 22 lb. Spring XD-45ACP Tactical with TLR-1 XDm-40 Bi-Tone with Don's Guide Rod Most Recent Purchase: Romanian RPK

03-26-2007, 12:08 PM	#4
atmiller XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 883	Your XD will not be as finicky about ammo as your Glock was, so don't be afraid to buy whatever ammo is least expensive to use for target practice. If you are using it for self-defense, pick up some good hollow-point ammo as well. __________________ NRA Life Member XD-40 Subcompact XD-9 Service with laser sight XD-9 Tactical with Storm Lake Barrel, mag well, CobraChrome, Williams Firesights, Drop-In Sear and Trigger Bar XD-40 Tactical with mag well, Don's Guide Rod & 22 lb. Spring XD-45ACP Tactical with TLR-1 XDm-40 Bi-Tone with Don's Guide Rod Most Recent Purchase: Romanian RPK

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03-26-2007, 01:40 PM	#8
Deacon51 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 194	If you want to work with Computers, CTN... not IT DEMAND to get CTN! Don't back down. If you want to play with the SEALS, or be a SEAL, or do some real cool SEAL like stuff, CTR. (Special Boats is even more fun!) CTI would be alright, a good but of overlap with a CTR plus the language, and bonus pay if your good. MA, Is that open to new recruits? It's been a wile, and it's one that changes a good bit. It's overmanned one year and you can't get rank, undermanned the next and your working like a dog. When I was in you had to be a E-5 in a source rate before becoming a Master at Arms. It's good work if you can get it.

03-27-2007, 06:45 AM	#10
Deacon51 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 194	I was a CTR1 (SW/AW) when I got out. I got out because they wouldn't let me change to CTN since I was listed as "Mission Critical" on some piece of paper. The big thing about the CTN rate, Vs. the IT rate is the Security Clearance. Having a Security Clearance pretty much means you will always have a job, and that job will pay 40 or 50% more than it would with out a clearance. Less sea duty too, if you go to sea, most of the time it will not be as a member of the ships crew. You will just show up, ride the boat/ship to the location, and do your thing. No watch standing, no working on the mess decks washing dishes and cleaning bathrooms. There are some draw backs to that, like not having a rack, or having a crappy rack with dripping pips over it, and the ships crew may give you a hard time as a "rider"... but it's not bad, and most of the time your behind the green door anyway. As a IT, you would build and work on computer networks, databases and maybe even do a little programing, as a CTN you will all of that, but also learn, for lack of a better term, active hacking and counter hacking. Not to mention cryptology... and how to break it. Any CT rate is going to have very rapid advancement, and high re-enlistment bonuses compared to the rest of the Navy. It's not uncommon to see CT's make E-7 in 10 or less. The only thing is I'm not sure if they opened CTN to recruits, I think so since I saw a 3rd class the other day that was a CTN... I haven't really been keeping up with the times... and most of my friends that where here when I got out have transferred. But if it's open, and if your like computers, it's by far the best rating in the Navy... Plus the training is at Corry station in Pensacola.... some hate it there, but Corry is my favorite base I have ever been to!