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nickb · 03-09-2007, 04:47 PM

I just took the new 45 compact out for its first 200 round spin. "IT" ran flawlessly with a mix of WWB & UMC FMJ and Golden Sabre JHP. But I swear, my SC40 shoots more consistently for me. Lot's of really low hits mixed in with some OK groups at 15 yards. I don't get the really low hits with the SC.

Why would there be such a big difference between the SC and the C? Heck I shoot the SC better than my 9 service too.

Am I expecting too much when I think the XD family would behave more closely from flavor to flavor? I'm a little lost on this.

Thanks in advance,

Nick

Miguel · 03-09-2007, 04:52 PM

Maybe you have to get used to the different recoil?

nickb · 03-12-2007, 09:56 PM

After the second trip...I'm sure it's just the trigger break in. It'll be just fine.

Nick

Ca_ghost · 03-12-2007, 10:15 PM

Let me ask some basics questions and maybe I can come up with some ideas.

1.) Are you a left or right handed shooter?

2.) When you say that it shoots low. Is it straight down or is it to the left or right?

3.) Are you experiencing this while standing or bench shooting?

nickb · 03-13-2007, 09:54 AM

Right handed.

I was getting quite a few very low hits that were pretty much straight down. I think the "new" heavier trigger just had me pulling the muzzle down a bit. As the trigger is loosening up, the low shots are going away.

From a bench it's pretty consistent on POA.

After the second range trip, I'm pretty sure it's just me being so accustom to my SC that the small differences between it and the 45 are magnifying the flaws in my shooting technique. Let me get a few hundred more rounds through it.....but I'll appreciate any advice.

Nick

Ca_ghost · 03-13-2007, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickb

Right handed.

I was getting quite a few very low hits that were pretty much straight down. I think the "new" heavier trigger just had me pulling the muzzle down a bit. As the trigger is loosening up, the low shots are going away.

From a bench it's pretty consistent on POA.

After the second range trip, I'm pretty sure it's just me being so accustom to my SC that the small differences between it and the 45 are magnifying the flaws in my shooting technique. Let me get a few hundred more rounds through it.....but I'll appreciate any advice.

Nick

If the rounds are hitting straight down then there are a couple of things you can try. The first is you may be anticipating the shot because of a new weapon. Try getting two sight pictures for each shot. One sight picture before the shot and another after the shot. Resist the urge to look at the target right after you shoot.

The second and more than likely is your trigger pull. Try slowing down and pressing the trigger instead of slapping it or jerking it. One of the first handgun classes I went through the instructor always preached that when you are up on target in the back of your mind say "Front sight squeeze, front sight squeeze.." Meaning to concentrate on the front sight and to squeeze the trigger.

If when bench shooting you are hitting POA POI then it is all in you and not the weapon. Try to slow down a little bit and to concentrate on the basics of shooting.

Slow is smooth and smooth is fast

nickb · 03-13-2007, 10:27 AM

Thanks,

I've always been pretty slappy

. I'll take your advice to the range next session.

ExSniper · 03-13-2007, 10:31 AM

As you squeeze the trigger, hold it back. As already mentioned, get a good sight picture before and after the shot. Then release the trigger just to reset, and fire the next shot. See if that helps.
Sounds like a combination of trigger control and lack of follow through.

nickb · 03-23-2007, 04:21 PM

Just wanted to thank you CA and Ex for the instruction. I sneaked out to the range at lunch today. I still had some get away, but I felt MUCH better this session. I did relax my grip a bit, but most of my focus was on front sight, squeeze and hold it.

I fired 40 rounds each at these two targets from 15 yards, plus another forty at some paper plates.

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I have a long way to go, but this is definitely progress for me. Thanks again.

**Loves2Shoot** · 03-23-2007, 04:30 PM

The triggers on the SC's tend to break easier...

Might be something to that.

03-09-2007, 04:47 PM	#1
nickb XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,343	Instructor question... I just took the new 45 compact out for its first 200 round spin. "IT" ran flawlessly with a mix of WWB & UMC FMJ and Golden Sabre JHP. But I swear, my SC40 shoots more consistently for me. Lot's of really low hits mixed in with some OK groups at 15 yards. I don't get the really low hits with the SC. Why would there be such a big difference between the SC and the C? Heck I shoot the SC better than my 9 service too. Am I expecting too much when I think the XD family would behave more closely from flavor to flavor? I'm a little lost on this. Thanks in advance, Nick __________________ No PM sent..... But the average human can travel 21 feet in just about one second.

03-09-2007, 04:52 PM	#2
Miguel XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 1,869	Maybe you have to get used to the different recoil? __________________ Miguel Enjoying my XD .45ACP Tactical. need to break in my 870, and my wife's XDSC9. I carry my XD45 ACP Tactical, in a SuperTuck from CB. Very comfortable, easy to hide, easy to draw, and easy to reholster. Looking for an HDR*, either an AR-180B, or Kel-Tec FBR. HDR, Homeland Defense Rifle

03-12-2007, 09:56 PM	#3
nickb XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,343	After the second trip...I'm sure it's just the trigger break in. It'll be just fine. Nick __________________ No PM sent..... But the average human can travel 21 feet in just about one second.

03-12-2007, 10:15 PM	#4
Ca_ghost XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 23	Let me ask some basics questions and maybe I can come up with some ideas. 1.) Are you a left or right handed shooter? 2.) When you say that it shoots low. Is it straight down or is it to the left or right? 3.) Are you experiencing this while standing or bench shooting? __________________ Springfield Armory MC Operator Springfield Armory XD 4" Service .45ACP Beretta 92FS (Miss you bro) Glock 22 Ruger Mark II Government Model Rock River Entry Tactical Remington 700 Benelli M1 (Issued)

03-13-2007, 09:54 AM	#5
nickb XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,343	Right handed. I was getting quite a few very low hits that were pretty much straight down. I think the "new" heavier trigger just had me pulling the muzzle down a bit. As the trigger is loosening up, the low shots are going away. From a bench it's pretty consistent on POA. After the second range trip, I'm pretty sure it's just me being so accustom to my SC that the small differences between it and the 45 are magnifying the flaws in my shooting technique. Let me get a few hundred more rounds through it.....but I'll appreciate any advice. Nick __________________ No PM sent..... But the average human can travel 21 feet in just about one second.

03-13-2007, 10:27 AM	#7
nickb XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,343	Thanks, I've always been pretty slappy . I'll take your advice to the range next session. __________________ No PM sent..... But the average human can travel 21 feet in just about one second.

03-13-2007, 10:31 AM	#8
ExSniper XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 222	As you squeeze the trigger, hold it back. As already mentioned, get a good sight picture before and after the shot. Then release the trigger just to reset, and fire the next shot. See if that helps. Sounds like a combination of trigger control and lack of follow through.

03-23-2007, 04:21 PM	#9
nickb XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,343	Just wanted to thank you CA and Ex for the instruction. I sneaked out to the range at lunch today. I still had some get away, but I felt MUCH better this session. I did relax my grip a bit, but most of my focus was on front sight, squeeze and hold it. I fired 40 rounds each at these two targets from 15 yards, plus another forty at some paper plates. http:// http:// I have a long way to go, but this is definitely progress for me. Thanks again. __________________ No PM sent..... But the average human can travel 21 feet in just about one second.

03-23-2007, 04:30 PM	#10
Loves2Shoot XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bend, OR Posts: 2,612	The triggers on the SC's tend to break easier... Might be something to that. __________________ www.SpringerPrecision.com The XD Specialists - Our web store is now online!

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