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Racklover · 03-09-2007, 01:08 PM

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/...stria-Iran.php

DougG_ATL · 03-09-2007, 01:31 PM

I don't think anyone should jump to judgement of Glock. They're an international arms manufacturer that supplies to countries throughout the world. Any country who contracts with them is going to have to be clear about the purpose of the purchase and face international sanctions if they breach that contract.

The bigger XD-related question is - does Springfield Armory actually own and control HS Produkt, the Zagreb, Croatia-based manufacturer of the XD/HS2000?

If they do not, what are the export practices by HS Produkt?
If SA does control, what are the limits on export practices set by SA based on American policy?

**nsnate02** · 03-09-2007, 01:36 PM

There go those Austrians again (Steyr) or as Lloyd Christmas would say, in his best "Austrian" accent, "Put another shrimp on the barbie, mate!"

Miguel · 03-09-2007, 02:02 PM

Many Austrians hate the USA, there was one volunteering to help Saddam if we invaded. They regard our involvment in their defeat as meddling in European affairs, and amny deeply resnt us for it. Austria was more Nazi the Germany, no big mystery since Adolf was an Austrian, but they did not suffer the consequences for WW2 like the Germans did, so they were not taught a 'lesson'.

FrankRizzoXD40 · 03-09-2007, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miguel

Many Austrians hate the USA, there was one volunteering to help Saddam if we invaded. They regard our involvment in their defeat as meddling in European affairs, and amny deeply resnt us for it. Austria was more Nazi the Germany, no big mystery since Adolf was an Austrian, but they did not suffer the consequences for WW2 like the Germans did, so they were not taught a 'lesson'.

Interesting analysis.

-1 to glock. I'm a fan of free enterprise, but this is just a bad decision, IMO, to send loads of firearms to the major state sponsor of terror.

Frank

jeepinbanditrider · 03-09-2007, 02:09 PM

This is nothing new. There were companies during WWI that sold weapons to both sides during the war, especially machine guns. Our bolt action rifles were based off of the German Mauser design (like hundreds of other rifles in the world).

Who do you think supplied weapons to Iraq during their war with Iran and to Afghanistan during the Russian occupation. We did.

Infact it is said that we also supplied the Iraqis with early Stinger missles to fight the Iranians and the Iranians captured some and made an Iranian stinger by "reverse" engineering it. I wouldn't be supprised if Iran just started to make their own .50 cal rifles.

Do I support it no I don't. I probably won't be buying Glocks anytime soon from them but I"m not going to hold it against them I'm just going to hit them in their wallet.

Mercmar · 03-09-2007, 03:44 PM

The inaccuracy of that article has been corrected by AP. It was IRAQ, NOT IRAN!!!!

No real news here, as we all knew that the U.S. had bought the Glocks for use by the Iraqi police. Just bad reporting.

FrankRizzoXD40 · 03-09-2007, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercmar

The inaccuracy of that article has been corrected by AP. It was IRAQ, NOT IRAN!!!!

No real news here, as we all knew that the U.S. had bought the Glocks for use by the Iraqi police. Just bad reporting.

Wow! Thanks for clearing that up, Mercmar.

It makes more sense now.

Frank

Mercmar · 03-09-2007, 03:50 PM

Well, you still might not like Glocks, but at least have a legitmate reason!

**nikon777** · 03-09-2007, 03:55 PM

The media screwing up? Noooooooooooooo it cant be. That means all Muslims aren't terrorists after all.

03-09-2007, 01:08 PM	#1
Racklover XDTalk Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 43	Think twice about Glock! Go XD http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/...stria-Iran.php

03-09-2007, 01:31 PM	#2
DougG_ATL XDTalk Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cartersville, GA Posts: 36	I don't think anyone should jump to judgement of Glock. They're an international arms manufacturer that supplies to countries throughout the world. Any country who contracts with them is going to have to be clear about the purpose of the purchase and face international sanctions if they breach that contract. The bigger XD-related question is - does Springfield Armory actually own and control HS Produkt, the Zagreb, Croatia-based manufacturer of the XD/HS2000? If they do not, what are the export practices by HS Produkt? If SA does control, what are the limits on export practices set by SA based on American policy? Last edited by DougG_ATL : 03-09-2007 at 01:34 PM.

03-09-2007, 01:36 PM	#3
nsnate02 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,076	There go those Austrians again (Steyr) or as Lloyd Christmas would say, in his best "Austrian" accent, "Put another shrimp on the barbie, mate!" __________________ "It is better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." *Abraham Lincoln*

03-09-2007, 02:02 PM	#4
Miguel XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 1,869	Many Austrians hate the USA, there was one volunteering to help Saddam if we invaded. They regard our involvment in their defeat as meddling in European affairs, and amny deeply resnt us for it. Austria was more Nazi the Germany, no big mystery since Adolf was an Austrian, but they did not suffer the consequences for WW2 like the Germans did, so they were not taught a 'lesson'. __________________ Miguel Enjoying my XD .45ACP Tactical. need to break in my 870, and my wife's XDSC9. I carry my XD45 ACP Tactical, in a SuperTuck from CB. Very comfortable, easy to hide, easy to draw, and easy to reholster. Looking for an HDR*, either an AR-180B, or Kel-Tec FBR. HDR, Homeland Defense Rifle

03-09-2007, 02:09 PM	#6
jeepinbanditrider XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mineral Wells, Tx Posts: 4,772	This is nothing new. There were companies during WWI that sold weapons to both sides during the war, especially machine guns. Our bolt action rifles were based off of the German Mauser design (like hundreds of other rifles in the world). Who do you think supplied weapons to Iraq during their war with Iran and to Afghanistan during the Russian occupation. We did. Infact it is said that we also supplied the Iraqis with early Stinger missles to fight the Iranians and the Iranians captured some and made an Iranian stinger by "reverse" engineering it. I wouldn't be supprised if Iran just started to make their own .50 cal rifles. Do I support it no I don't. I probably won't be buying Glocks anytime soon from them but I"m not going to hold it against them I'm just going to hit them in their wallet. __________________ Stuff USPSA-A59201

03-09-2007, 03:44 PM	#7
Mercmar XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,639	The inaccuracy of that article has been corrected by AP. It was IRAQ, NOT IRAN!!!! No real news here, as we all knew that the U.S. had bought the Glocks for use by the Iraqi police. Just bad reporting.

03-09-2007, 03:50 PM	#9
Mercmar XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,639	Well, you still might not like Glocks, but at least have a legitmate reason!

03-09-2007, 03:55 PM	#10
nikon777 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Cleveland, OH. The Danger Zone. Posts: 6,793	The media screwing up? Noooooooooooooo it cant be. That means all Muslims aren't terrorists after all. __________________ Clinging bitterly to guns and religion since 1977.. My Blogspot.

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