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Mauser · 03-09-2007, 10:45 AM

Hi Everyone

A friend of mine recently picked up his first handgun, an XD 9.

He fired it the first time about 150 rounds, it worked great and he was in love.

Dis assembled and cleaned his gun and put it away. Later that week he took it to the range again and it would not lock open with an empty magazine in it. He still fired it a bit but it would never stay open on the empty magazine.

Did he do something when he cleaned the gun?

Hes going to bring it over sometime next week for me to have a look at, any tips what I can look for?

Thank You

kannibul · 03-09-2007, 10:49 AM

"how" disassembled?

I just remove the slide, pop the spring out and remove the barrel from the slide, clean and oil.

40SWXDSHOOTER · 03-09-2007, 11:11 AM

Dose it happen with all mags?
If it dose then it's something with the gun, if not check the mags.
The slide stop might be dirty, but after 150 rounds, unless it's real crappy ammo it shouldn't be that dirty.
So the only two things it could be are the mags, or the slide stop.

Andrew LB · 03-09-2007, 11:12 AM

^^^ Yea. Anything more than that should be left for someone who knows the weapon very well.

40SWXDSHOOTER · 03-09-2007, 11:14 AM

One more thing, if it is under powered ammo, the slide might not be comming back far enough to catch the slide stop.

Andrew LB · 03-09-2007, 11:22 AM

True. I've always used winchester white box for range plinking. My one day using a 100 box of cheap, unpolished reloads resulted in 3 rounds not firing after being struck and one casing getting jammed in the slide after being fired.

... that stuff was pure garbage.

Mauser · 03-09-2007, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul

"how" disassembled?

I just remove the slide, pop the spring out and remove the barrel from the slide, clean and oil.

I assume thats all he did but I was not there so im gong off his phone call.

Wouldn't removing the slide from the frame and removing the barrel fromt he slide qualify as dissasembly?

This problem did happen with both his magazines and he tells me he cleaned it well before firing it both times.

Thank you for all the suggestions guys.

I will give it look when he brings it over next week but sounds like I will probably suggest he contact Springfield or a local gunsmith if he prefers.

I just hope he doesent get soured on springfields as this is his first handgun.

Thanks for all the help.

By the way, heres a pic of my XD 357.

malkore · 03-09-2007, 11:41 AM

have him check his grip. riding the slide stop lever is VERY common for new XD shooters.

a thumbs forward grip definitely helps, and lends itself to a strong XD/1911 grip. I usually point people at this video: http://www.oregonshooting.com/vids/spgrip1.wmv

zac07 · 03-09-2007, 11:44 AM

I agree. Have him check his grip very common cause of this.

strongarm73 · 03-09-2007, 12:02 PM

if it's not the mag/slide catch or a combination, it's probably the ammo or new recoil spring being overpowered or not being broken in yet.

Even when the mag/mag catch or both are dirty, they tend to still work...pretty simple components.

I've had this happen with many different guns and it's never the mag/mag catch lever....usually just a tough spring/guide rod assembly and range quality ammo (even white box). Never happens with hot rounds and never happens consistently.

03-09-2007, 10:45 AM	#1
Mauser XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 2	Slide wont stay open on empty mag in new XD9 Hi Everyone A friend of mine recently picked up his first handgun, an XD 9. He fired it the first time about 150 rounds, it worked great and he was in love. Dis assembled and cleaned his gun and put it away. Later that week he took it to the range again and it would not lock open with an empty magazine in it. He still fired it a bit but it would never stay open on the empty magazine. Did he do something when he cleaned the gun? Hes going to bring it over sometime next week for me to have a look at, any tips what I can look for? Thank You

03-09-2007, 11:12 AM	#4
Andrew LB XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Peoples Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 114	^^^ Yea. Anything more than that should be left for someone who knows the weapon very well. __________________ - Springfield XD-9mm (Workhorse w/20k+ shots fired) - Colt 1911 .45 ACP pre-WWI US Navy Officers Issue - Win. Model 70 .270 featherweight - S&W .357mag Model 66-2 (early 70's trigger job, custom sights) - Win. Model '94 30-30 (early 20's) - Belgian Browing 16ga Semi Auto (Fabrique national) - A.H. Fox 16ga double gun (late 'teens) - Weatherby .270 magnum - .375 Holland & Holland double gun -Coming Soon- Springfield M1A Match Grade Springfield TRP 1911 .45 ACP

03-09-2007, 11:22 AM	#6
Andrew LB XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Peoples Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 114	True. I've always used winchester white box for range plinking. My one day using a 100 box of cheap, unpolished reloads resulted in 3 rounds not firing after being struck and one casing getting jammed in the slide after being fired. ... that stuff was pure garbage. __________________ - Springfield XD-9mm (Workhorse w/20k+ shots fired) - Colt 1911 .45 ACP pre-WWI US Navy Officers Issue - Win. Model 70 .270 featherweight - S&W .357mag Model 66-2 (early 70's trigger job, custom sights) - Win. Model '94 30-30 (early 20's) - Belgian Browing 16ga Semi Auto (Fabrique national) - A.H. Fox 16ga double gun (late 'teens) - Weatherby .270 magnum - .375 Holland & Holland double gun -Coming Soon- Springfield M1A Match Grade Springfield TRP 1911 .45 ACP

03-09-2007, 11:41 AM	#8
malkore XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: eastern Nebraska Posts: 646	have him check his grip. riding the slide stop lever is VERY common for new XD shooters. a thumbs forward grip definitely helps, and lends itself to a strong XD/1911 grip. I usually point people at this video: http://www.oregonshooting.com/vids/spgrip1.wmv __________________ malkore my guns - http://home.neb.rr.com/malkore/firearms.html

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03-09-2007, 10:49 AM	#2
kannibul XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 806	"how" disassembled? I just remove the slide, pop the spring out and remove the barrel from the slide, clean and oil.

03-09-2007, 11:11 AM	#3
40SWXDSHOOTER XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 891	Dose it happen with all mags? If it dose then it's something with the gun, if not check the mags. The slide stop might be dirty, but after 150 rounds, unless it's real crappy ammo it shouldn't be that dirty. So the only two things it could be are the mags, or the slide stop.

03-09-2007, 11:14 AM	#5
40SWXDSHOOTER XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 891	One more thing, if it is under powered ammo, the slide might not be comming back far enough to catch the slide stop.

03-09-2007, 11:44 AM	#9
zac07 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: West Texas Posts: 1,117	I agree. Have him check his grip very common cause of this.

03-09-2007, 12:02 PM	#10
strongarm73 XDTalk Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 85	if it's not the mag/slide catch or a combination, it's probably the ammo or new recoil spring being overpowered or not being broken in yet. Even when the mag/mag catch or both are dirty, they tend to still work...pretty simple components. I've had this happen with many different guns and it's never the mag/mag catch lever....usually just a tough spring/guide rod assembly and range quality ammo (even white box). Never happens with hot rounds and never happens consistently.