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Twizted45 · 02-13-2007, 08:44 PM

Alright I have spent two days looking into this and hav'nt found anything yet.
I am from Buffalo, NY but im stationed in NC in the Military. I bought my xd45 here in NC. I am planning on driving home to NY in March. I want to bring my 45 home so I can go shoot with my Dad at the range, and of course personal protection on the 14 hour drive. I do not have a Concealed Carry Permit.. YET. Is this going to be legal to do? Im not that Familiar with NY's gun laws. Anybody have any insight on this??

Springer Guy · 02-13-2007, 09:21 PM

I think you will be legal IF you leave the gun, unloaded and in the trunk.

LenE · 02-13-2007, 09:42 PM

When I moved to NY about five years ago, the law was that I could not cross the state line with a handgun, unless I had a permit for NY state. As the requirements for the permit included a residency period (which I didn't qualify for) and character witnesses in the county that I resided, I couldn't bring any handguns across from Pennsylvania.

For you, it may be quite different. I assume that you having a house in NY means that you grew up there, have sufficient residency, and probably have a few character witnesses to aid getting a permit. Since you mentioned being stationed in NC, there may be an active military exemption. Now I'm in California, and they have an active military exemption, as well as a transversal exemption. Since we're on the left coast, there isn't much point in the transversal exemption unless you are cutting a corner between Nevada, Oregon or Arizona. Do a quick google search for "New York Handgun transport" and you should get all the info you need.

-- Len

havoc1 · 02-13-2007, 10:03 PM

Because you actually intend to stay in NY, I think you may be SOL on this one man. You need a permit just to OWN a pistol in the Peoples Republic of NY. I pray that I never get stationed in Ft Drum!

If I understand correctly, safe passage, or whatever it's called, is only if you're traveling through the state on the way to another destination. No good if you're staying there. It also generally means that the weapon must be unloaded, out of reach, with ammo stored separately. As far as personal protection, what are you, stupid or something? That's what the cops are there for!

Best place to check is here: http://www.packing.org/state/

They have great info on everything. Something I do highly recommend is that you print out the applicable laws for each state you're traveling through. I've met some cops who were pretty ignorant on their own gun laws, and every once in a while, you get one with his own ideas on gun control.

Good luck!

manr0e · 02-13-2007, 10:19 PM

I hate to break the bad new...and I am not going to waste my time typing information that can be found elsewhere...ie NYS Penal codes on their website...or even packing.org, BUT...

NO. You would be breaking the law. A permit is needed! Unless you are only traveling through NY, then I would not bring my pistol.

Sorry!

Anyway, I live in Buffalo (Amherst) ...PM me when you get back if you are in need of a shooting partner!

LenE · 02-13-2007, 11:38 PM

One other thing occurred to me, just in case you think you might be able to sneak by. I've been stopped eight different times in NY by all sorts of LEO's. I've never once got as much as a single speeding ticket. I'm not sure if this is a statewide thing, but there appears to be a very low bar for probable cause. Usually, it seemed that the officer was bored, and I just happened to be driving by at the moment of boredom.

Why do I bring this up? Well, they've been very thorough every time in examining all of my paperwork and asking questions about, and actively looking for possible drugs, alcohol, and firearms. As a returning member of our military, if you are stopped, they will know your status, and may have more suspicion than normal that you may be transporting an un-permitted handgun.

-- Len

**oklawall** · 02-14-2007, 06:27 AM

What job do you have in the USCG? I know someone in the MSST and they are federal law officers so he can have his CCW anywhere anytime. You command may have paper work to fill out and give you the same ablity

Twizted45 · 02-14-2007, 03:23 PM

Dang it. Im not moving back to NY im just taking 2 weeks of leave to visit the fam. My dad argued with me for an hour the other night about the gun laws. I guess he won that one.

Oklawall: I am a Boarding Officer, which makes me a Federal Law Enforcement Officer and a Customs Officer... While on official duty. I have never heard of a BO being able to carry while off duty.

Im putting my FL CCP in as we speak. It still wont help me with carrying it in NY. I like the state but the anti-gun politcians gotta go!

IndianaJones · 02-14-2007, 03:47 PM

**oklawall** · 02-14-2007, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twizted45

Dang it. Im not moving back to NY im just taking 2 weeks of leave to visit the fam. My dad argued with me for an hour the other night about the gun laws. I guess he won that one.

Oklawall: I am a Boarding Officer, which makes me a Federal Law Enforcement Officer and a Customs Officer... While on official duty. I have never heard of a BO being able to carry while off duty.

Im putting my FL CCP in as we speak. It still wont help me with carrying it in NY. I like the state but the anti-gun politcians gotta go!

I would also put in one for New York

02-13-2007, 08:44 PM	#1
Twizted45 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: OBX, NC Posts: 14	Transporting to Different State Alright I have spent two days looking into this and hav'nt found anything yet. I am from Buffalo, NY but im stationed in NC in the Military. I bought my xd45 here in NC. I am planning on driving home to NY in March. I want to bring my 45 home so I can go shoot with my Dad at the range, and of course personal protection on the 14 hour drive. I do not have a Concealed Carry Permit.. YET. Is this going to be legal to do? Im not that Familiar with NY's gun laws. Anybody have any insight on this?? __________________ Draft Beer, Not Soldiers.. Petty Officer Third Class United States Coast Guard The List.... Springfield XD 45acp Black Service Model Coonan Cadet II .357 Mag Remington 870 Express Magnum Ithica Deer Slayer Model 37 Featherlight

02-13-2007, 09:42 PM	#3
LenE XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tehachapi, CA Posts: 13	When I moved to NY about five years ago, the law was that I could not cross the state line with a handgun, unless I had a permit for NY state. As the requirements for the permit included a residency period (which I didn't qualify for) and character witnesses in the county that I resided, I couldn't bring any handguns across from Pennsylvania. For you, it may be quite different. I assume that you having a house in NY means that you grew up there, have sufficient residency, and probably have a few character witnesses to aid getting a permit. Since you mentioned being stationed in NC, there may be an active military exemption. Now I'm in California, and they have an active military exemption, as well as a transversal exemption. Since we're on the left coast, there isn't much point in the transversal exemption unless you are cutting a corner between Nevada, Oregon or Arizona. Do a quick google search for "New York Handgun transport" and you should get all the info you need. -- Len Last edited by LenE; 02-13-2007 at 09:45 PM.

02-13-2007, 10:03 PM	#4
havoc1 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ft Bragg, NC Posts: 242	Because you actually intend to stay in NY, I think you may be SOL on this one man. You need a permit just to OWN a pistol in the Peoples Republic of NY. I pray that I never get stationed in Ft Drum! If I understand correctly, safe passage, or whatever it's called, is only if you're traveling through the state on the way to another destination. No good if you're staying there. It also generally means that the weapon must be unloaded, out of reach, with ammo stored separately. As far as personal protection, what are you, stupid or something? That's what the cops are there for! Best place to check is here: http://www.packing.org/state/ They have great info on everything. Something I do highly recommend is that you print out the applicable laws for each state you're traveling through. I've met some cops who were pretty ignorant on their own gun laws, and every once in a while, you get one with his own ideas on gun control. Good luck! __________________ "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on to them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free". -Ronald Wilson Reagan

02-13-2007, 10:19 PM	#5
manr0e XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NY Posts: 187	NO I hate to break the bad new...and I am not going to waste my time typing information that can be found elsewhere...ie NYS Penal codes on their website...or even packing.org, BUT... NO. You would be breaking the law. A permit is needed! Unless you are only traveling through NY, then I would not bring my pistol. Sorry! Anyway, I live in Buffalo (Amherst) ...PM me when you get back if you are in need of a shooting partner! __________________ "We must all fear evil men, but there is another evil; one that we must fear most...and that, is the indifference of good men." ~ Dwight D. Eisenhower

02-14-2007, 06:27 AM	#7
oklawall XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Maud, Oklahoma Posts: 10,167	What job do you have in the USCG? I know someone in the MSST and they are federal law officers so he can have his CCW anywhere anytime. You command may have paper work to fill out and give you the same ablity __________________ The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. -Albert Einstein

02-13-2007, 09:21 PM	#2
Springer Guy XDTalk Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: High Point, NC Posts: 74	I think you will be legal IF you leave the gun, unloaded and in the trunk.

02-13-2007, 11:38 PM	#6
LenE XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tehachapi, CA Posts: 13	One other thing occurred to me, just in case you think you might be able to sneak by. I've been stopped eight different times in NY by all sorts of LEO's. I've never once got as much as a single speeding ticket. I'm not sure if this is a statewide thing, but there appears to be a very low bar for probable cause. Usually, it seemed that the officer was bored, and I just happened to be driving by at the moment of boredom. Why do I bring this up? Well, they've been very thorough every time in examining all of my paperwork and asking questions about, and actively looking for possible drugs, alcohol, and firearms. As a returning member of our military, if you are stopped, they will know your status, and may have more suspicion than normal that you may be transporting an un-permitted handgun. -- Len

02-14-2007, 03:23 PM	#8
Twizted45 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: OBX, NC Posts: 14	Dang it. Im not moving back to NY im just taking 2 weeks of leave to visit the fam. My dad argued with me for an hour the other night about the gun laws. I guess he won that one. Oklawall: I am a Boarding Officer, which makes me a Federal Law Enforcement Officer and a Customs Officer... While on official duty. I have never heard of a BO being able to carry while off duty. Im putting my FL CCP in as we speak. It still wont help me with carrying it in NY. I like the state but the anti-gun politcians gotta go! __________________ Draft Beer, Not Soldiers.. Petty Officer Third Class United States Coast Guard The List.... Springfield XD 45acp Black Service Model Coonan Cadet II .357 Mag Remington 870 Express Magnum Ithica Deer Slayer Model 37 Featherlight

02-14-2007, 03:47 PM	#9
IndianaJones XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Howard County, Indiana Posts: 781	__________________ http://video.google.com/url?docid=-1...BGtholoYBTeguw

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