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Old 01-07-2007, 09:30 PM   #11
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I didn't understand a few things that you posted so I am going to look stupid, please forgive...

TFO and install?
Smooth Trigger Face?
TFOs are a combination tritium and fiber optic sight, bright day or night.

Some people complain about the trigger (meaning the front where your finger rests) being rough especially after shooting a lot. I can't remember the last time my trigger face bothered me. I think where you position your finger has a lot to do with whether or not it will bother you.

Just shoot some more and build up some callouses.

beat me to it...
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Old 01-07-2007, 09:37 PM   #12
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I am not really sure if I am going to carry this gun but I think 2 and even 3 is probably too much so I will get the 4 if that is considered a carry poundage.

I want to use the pistol for IDPA, home defense, range time, and possibly a carry weapon.

The trigger work and sights are my main goals.

I will probably skip the slide tightening since I think the XD is pretty tight.

Can I get the trigger smoothing, trigger work, sights, extended mag, and polish without the courts thinking it was tricked out?
You might want to consult the IDPA rulebook. I think they limit the trigger to 5#? But don't take my word for it...

I don't think it should be a problem if you're concerned about legal liability, as long as the work has been done by a professional.
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Old 01-07-2007, 09:45 PM   #13
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You might want to consult the IDPA rulebook. I think they limit the trigger to 5#? But don't take my word for it...

I don't think it should be a problem if you're concerned about legal liability, as long as the work has been done by a professional.
I took a quick look at the IDPa rule book and it doesn't mention the #.

"Internal action work may be used to enhance trigger pull as
long as safety is maintained (no visible external modifications
allowed."

I am not sure what that means but I assume it means not a hair trigger.
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Unlike in other sports, the amount of money you put into a your doesn't dictate your performance nor speed.

Obviously you're going to do better with a tricked out XD Ruger P89 but still you will only do as good as you can do, the gun isn't much of a factor.
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Old 01-07-2007, 10:25 PM   #15
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in drag racing they say that speed = money , how fast do you wanna go.

I know people that purchse 140 mile per hour cars and motorcycles that never go faster than 80
Of course they can get to 80 pretty fast.

If you do the trigger job, you don't need the cleanup.

It is not valid to say it is the Indian or the arrow. It is both. In some cases it may be more Indian than arrow and vice versa. It sure is more fun shooting a gun with trigger work though.
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IDPA doesnt' have a number for trigger pull. Yet. But if King Bill wants one, he'll write it in. I'm pretty sure the extended mag release is illegal.
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IDPA doesnt' have a number for trigger pull. Yet. But if King Bill wants one, he'll write it in. I'm pretty sure the extended mag release is illegal.
Though I don't shoot IDPA now my past experience has been anything that is different than what is available on a production gun is not allowed, so and extended magazine release would be out. Internal modifications to improve function is allowed so a trigger job, any polishing to improve feed or changes in spring pressure to reduce trigger pull is allowed. The one exception I am not sure of in IDPA is sight modification. Someone who shoots IDPA would be more help here. In my opinion the XD is pretty good out of the box with the exception of 2 areas: sights (particularly night sights) and trigger pull. I thing both of these need to be done by a good gunsmith who is familiar with the XD. New sights are fairly easy to install but removing the stock sights is a b***h and there are many things that effect trigger pressure that you can screw up, and a too light trigger is down right dangerous.

Slicked guns do not make fast shooter practice does. For top shooters a slicked gun will make shooting fast times easier but a good shooter will do very well with a totally stock gun. Just shooting the gun will do a lot to smoothing the action so with the exception of the two item I mentioned I would spend the money on ammo and put in some extra practice time.
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  • $40 - Extended Mag Release This can be installed yourself if you really want it . But like Tec said, if this gun is used for competition shooting you could really benefit from the fraction of a second that you save.
  • $15 - Polish Feed Ramp (Not sure if necessary and can be done at hone) It can be done at home with a dremel kit, but then again if you don't have the rouge and polishing bob you might spend close to that much to buy the equipment.
  • $50 - Basic XD Factory Cleanup What the heck is this? Maybe if I knew what it was... Sounds like it might be an inspecton/replacing service for heavily used/dirty guns.
I agree. This all sounds like stuff you could do at home. Especially the polish job. I haven't done the mag release to mine, but Old School's video makes it look pretty simple.

Also, $130 for a TFO job? I think James did mine for $100 installed (I think it took $6 to ship, or something like that). Were you planning on sending it to SA? Our forum sponsers do some fine work. I'd look to them if I were you.
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Thanks for all the posts guys.

I am not looking to be doing double taps right out of the gate.

I am making an investment in this for both safety and for fun.

The trigger really is my least favorate part about the stock gun.

My first time out I found myself jerking because of the long travel and also missing the reset a few times.

So for now it looks like:
Carry Trigger Job
Truglo TFOs
trigger smoothing
ramp feed polish

I can't wait to shoot it when it gets back.
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scalce I am also wondering where you are going to send it. I want to have both of my pistols have a trigger job and night sights on them.
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