slam shutting the slide?

[WilliamWallace]

Originally Posted by Matt`G

Another light to this, though, is that most products are designed to work beyond specification. "

right... that's the Factor of Safety (FoS) that I was speaking about. That is also why I said that we do not know where we are in that zone. If a car manufacturer says your car is safe to drive at a buck thirty, you can bet it is actually safe to drive faster. the problem is that you do not know how much faster. NO ONE here knows that information nor can they figure it out unless they understand how mechanical systems are engineered and they have the ability and knowledge to apply higher mathematics and physics to the situation in the proper way, taking everything into account that an engineer would have to consider in designing the system.

Originally Posted by Matt`G

It seems there are plenty of variables to consider as well, so that leads me to believe that design specs would not be as sensitive as suggested.

i did NOT suggest that the specs are sensitive. i am a mechanical engineer and i understand how these things are done. what i did say is that tons of factors are involved in the design process and that no one here can say with any certainty that it will not hurt your gun.

i will again repeat what i did say... there are a lot of guys on this forum with tons of experience and i place a lot of value on someone with 25 years of experience telling me that it has never hurt their guns...

my point was simply that no one knows for sure if it will or won't hurt it, but forum member's experiences are worth a lot to me, personally

[Matt`G]

Woops, sorry if I sounded like i was pouncing on ya! I was just trying to add some perspective to what all ties in to a system besides the round being fed into the chamber to provide a bit of insight on the FoS. I did not mean to sound like I was questioning your understanding of mechanical systems, as I thought you did a good job of mentioning that we cannot know what the exact specs are nor what the FoS was on the design. I likely should have posted that without your post quoted in mine, as I did not mean it as a direct response to yours... your post was the one that sparked my thoughts and I felt it was related.

Again, sorry for the confusion.

[WilliamWallace]

Originally Posted by Matt`G

Woops, sorry if I sounded like i was pouncing on ya! I was just trying to add some perspective to what all ties in to a system besides the round being fed into the chamber to provide a bit of insight on the FoS. I did not mean to sound like I was questioning your understanding of mechanical systems, as I thought you did a good job of mentioning that we cannot know what the exact specs are nor what the FoS was on the design. I likely should have posted that without your post quoted in mine, as I did not mean it as a direct response to yours... your post was the one that sparked my thoughts and I felt it was related.

Again, sorry for the confusion.

maybe i am twinge touchy today, yeah? internet sucks for getting tone across...

[rangemaster]

Originally Posted by mullanman

It may be your ranges 7 step safety check. Like i said, you wouldn't be touching my gun, nor would i use your range. there are easier ways to check for half-cock without slamming the slide on an empty gun. Read Jerry Kuhnhausen's book, he gives a good methodology on how to 'check' a 1911 before a gunsmith releases it to a customer.

Dude, move on. We have this (among other) safety standards at our range because our butts are on the line legally. If your pistol isn't screwing up, then it doesn't get checked.

And you ARE invited to shoot at our range any time; I would personally welcome your input to our safety rules.

[sloopy70]

From a few books that I've read they say if your chambering a round to let the slide shut under its own power, and if there is no round being fed then to Ease the slide down... They mention damageing trigger jobs, and other firing mechanisms....... That's all I've got....