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mcb · 02-13-2005, 11:25 AM

The local Dick's sporting goods has some Ultramax 40 S&W 180GR CNL for $30 for 225 round and it is present on sale for 10% off that. Have you guys had any luck with all lead bullets in your XD? I have tried some Ultramax 38 special and 357 magnum SWC in my Ruger Blackhawk and they always lead up the forcing cone really bad. And the 38 special are horrible in the accuracy department. I have to use an old 410 shogun brush to get the lead out of the forcing cone. Do you guy have a leading problem in the XD? How do lead bullets shoot in the XD?

Thanks
mcb

BillSXT2002 · 02-13-2005, 11:54 AM

Unless the price is way too good to pass up, I'd stay away. I bought one box at a Dunhams store near me and I wish I hadn't. First of all, it is reloaded ammo. The brass is all at least once used. The stuff I had was unjacketed lead, so it wasn't the cleanest ammo I've used. Finally, I used about 5 rounds at an indoor range and had to stop becasue the smoke started to just hang in the air. I had no reliability problems, but considering it was no cheaper than winchester white box, I'd buy something else.

NExd · 02-13-2005, 01:31 PM

Ultramax < *

XD BACKUP GUN · 02-13-2005, 01:58 PM

Nasty STAY AWAY FAR FAR AWAY!

mcb · 02-26-2005, 02:48 PM

Should have listen to you guys. I got sucked in by the cost and tried a box of the Ultramax 40 S&W 180gr CNL to day at the range. A better name for the crap would be Ultrajam. Up until today when I tried the Ultramax I only had on FTF in nearly 500 rounds thru my XD. Using ultramax I had one magazine that had 6 of 10 failures to feed. It was quite miserable ammo to try to use. Its a shame to my XD seem to like it from an accuracy point of view. They group nearly as well as WWB. Oh well I guess you get what you pay for. Now to go clean my XD and see how bad the lead build up is.

Later
mcb

mcb · 02-28-2005, 02:07 PM

Well I got thinking about it and decided that the Ultramax ammo was bad enough the Ultramax should make it right. I sent them a polite email detailing the situation; we'll see if they get back to me and make this right. Since its remanufactured ammo I did not expect 100% function but that was ridiculous.

mcb

BillSXT2002 · 02-28-2005, 03:29 PM

Thats actually not a bad idea. Although for the price, I'd still probably buy WWB, considering Ultramax is almost twice the price at any place I usually buy at. I guess I don't understand why remanufactured ammo is so expensive.

mcb · 03-01-2005, 06:39 AM

I'm suprised that Ultramax is more expensive then your source of WWB. I pay 15.97 for 100 rds of WWB at the local Walmart. I got the box of 225 rds of the Ultramax for 29.99 at the local Dicks sporting goods. That ends up being $6.66 a box (50). The closes I have been able to get to that has been CCI Blazers at Walmart for $7.49 a box (50). We'll see if Ultramax works this out.

mcb

mcb · 03-02-2005, 02:52 PM

I know I am mostly having a conversation with myself here but...

I got a reply from Ultramax about my problem. The service rep thought I would have better luck with their FMJ rather than the CNL bullets I bought. They are going to exchange the CNL for the FMJ and have put a postage paid box in the mail to me to return the unfire portion of the ammuntion (125rds) and they will replace them with FMJ. I was pleased they were willing to do something about the problem and plesantly suprised that it will not cost me anything, not even shipping. Now their ammo may or may not be worth it but with customer service like that I will at least give it another try to two. I let you know how the FMJ functions when I get it.

mcb

wJAKE19 · 03-02-2005, 03:27 PM

thanks for the update, great service is key to get repeat coustomers.

02-13-2005, 11:25 AM	#1
mcb XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North East Ohio Posts: 2,053	Opinions of Ultramax and all lead bullets for XD-40 The local Dick's sporting goods has some Ultramax 40 S&W 180GR CNL for $30 for 225 round and it is present on sale for 10% off that. Have you guys had any luck with all lead bullets in your XD? I have tried some Ultramax 38 special and 357 magnum SWC in my Ruger Blackhawk and they always lead up the forcing cone really bad. And the 38 special are horrible in the accuracy department. I have to use an old 410 shogun brush to get the lead out of the forcing cone. Do you guy have a leading problem in the XD? How do lead bullets shoot in the XD? Thanks mcb __________________ If at first you don't succeed; RELOAD _ _ _ _ My web site

02-13-2005, 11:54 AM	#2
BillSXT2002 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 245	Unless the price is way too good to pass up, I'd stay away. I bought one box at a Dunhams store near me and I wish I hadn't. First of all, it is reloaded ammo. The brass is all at least once used. The stuff I had was unjacketed lead, so it wasn't the cleanest ammo I've used. Finally, I used about 5 rounds at an indoor range and had to stop becasue the smoke started to just hang in the air. I had no reliability problems, but considering it was no cheaper than winchester white box, I'd buy something else. __________________ "I often wonder whether we do not rest our hopes too much upon constitutions, upon laws, and upon courts. These are false hopes; believe me, these are false hopes. Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it." -L. Hand

02-13-2005, 01:58 PM	#4
XD BACKUP GUN XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oak Grove,MN Posts: 1,723	Nasty STAY AWAY FAR FAR AWAY! __________________ I carry 2 sometimes 3 guns....why not 4....that would be ostentatious. The person who carries more than 1 gun is not paranoid but prepared.

02-26-2005, 02:48 PM	#5
mcb XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North East Ohio Posts: 2,053	Should have listen to you guys. I got sucked in by the cost and tried a box of the Ultramax 40 S&W 180gr CNL to day at the range. A better name for the crap would be Ultrajam. Up until today when I tried the Ultramax I only had on FTF in nearly 500 rounds thru my XD. Using ultramax I had one magazine that had 6 of 10 failures to feed. It was quite miserable ammo to try to use. Its a shame to my XD seem to like it from an accuracy point of view. They group nearly as well as WWB. Oh well I guess you get what you pay for. Now to go clean my XD and see how bad the lead build up is. Later mcb __________________ If at first you don't succeed; RELOAD _ _ _ _ My web site

02-28-2005, 02:07 PM	#6
mcb XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North East Ohio Posts: 2,053	Well I got thinking about it and decided that the Ultramax ammo was bad enough the Ultramax should make it right. I sent them a polite email detailing the situation; we'll see if they get back to me and make this right. Since its remanufactured ammo I did not expect 100% function but that was ridiculous. mcb __________________ If at first you don't succeed; RELOAD _ _ _ _ My web site

02-13-2005, 01:31 PM	#3
NExd XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Land of pretentious, viperous, rancorous little, little men Posts: 1,553	Ultramax < *

02-28-2005, 03:29 PM	#7
BillSXT2002 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 245	Thats actually not a bad idea. Although for the price, I'd still probably buy WWB, considering Ultramax is almost twice the price at any place I usually buy at. I guess I don't understand why remanufactured ammo is so expensive. __________________ "I often wonder whether we do not rest our hopes too much upon constitutions, upon laws, and upon courts. These are false hopes; believe me, these are false hopes. Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it." -L. Hand

03-01-2005, 06:39 AM	#8
mcb XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North East Ohio Posts: 2,053	I'm suprised that Ultramax is more expensive then your source of WWB. I pay 15.97 for 100 rds of WWB at the local Walmart. I got the box of 225 rds of the Ultramax for 29.99 at the local Dicks sporting goods. That ends up being $6.66 a box (50). The closes I have been able to get to that has been CCI Blazers at Walmart for $7.49 a box (50). We'll see if Ultramax works this out. mcb __________________ If at first you don't succeed; RELOAD _ _ _ _ My web site

03-02-2005, 02:52 PM	#9
mcb XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North East Ohio Posts: 2,053	I know I am mostly having a conversation with myself here but... I got a reply from Ultramax about my problem. The service rep thought I would have better luck with their FMJ rather than the CNL bullets I bought. They are going to exchange the CNL for the FMJ and have put a postage paid box in the mail to me to return the unfire portion of the ammuntion (125rds) and they will replace them with FMJ. I was pleased they were willing to do something about the problem and plesantly suprised that it will not cost me anything, not even shipping. Now their ammo may or may not be worth it but with customer service like that I will at least give it another try to two. I let you know how the FMJ functions when I get it. mcb __________________ If at first you don't succeed; RELOAD _ _ _ _ My web site

03-02-2005, 03:27 PM	#10
wJAKE19 XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Belding, Michigan Posts: 520	thanks for the update, great service is key to get repeat coustomers. __________________ ~JAKE

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