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Rob Longenecker · 09-28-2006, 11:16 PM

How does a Blue Angels video relate to a lesson on shooting?
If you check it out you'll see - it really does.
http://www.tuckergunleatherblog.com/...t-to-learn-it/

jednp · 09-28-2006, 11:51 PM

i just saw them perform last weekend, and it was cloudy and windy so the show was low. next day was a beautiful day and nobody wanted to freakin go with me and I didn't feel like sitting at an airshow all day by myself. now after watching the vid, it just reminds me that I wish I had just gone! whaaaaaaaaaa

beakersloco · 09-29-2006, 06:06 AM

WOW I did not know that ...

**Glenn** · 09-29-2006, 07:22 AM

So the lesson learned is wear a G-Suit when we shoot? or don't im so confused

Broadside · 09-29-2006, 07:30 AM

The lesson is buy Practical Shooting by Brian Enos and get some good professional instruction.

Great info and good analogy.

TheXDkid · 09-29-2006, 02:08 PM

wow... those of us that cannot get a coach where do we start books and movies??

Rob Longenecker · 09-29-2006, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheXDkid

wow... those of us that cannot get a coach where do we start books and movies??

Let's ask the wide body of experience on this forum. Brian Enos's book is a great start. I'll add my 2 cents later.
Rob

Paul · 09-29-2006, 05:46 PM

I will try to be in Charlie's group at my next shoot and ask him for help.

I will take the CCW course soon - I hope.

ronbof117 · 09-29-2006, 10:15 PM

The Angels don't fly with G-Suits because with having a center stick on the Hornet, if you're resting your flying wrist and forearm on the top of your thigh, when the G-Suit inflates it changes the back stick pressure on the stick. It's tough to be smooth if flying that way (which everyone does) with the pressure in the G-Suit changing.

That's one of the nice features of the Viper (F-16) which employs a side stick. Doesn't matter what the G-Suit is doing, only what you're doing to the stick yourself. If I remember the specs right, full pitch travel from neutral is 1/2" and roll is 1/4". Auto trim to 1G, good flying qualities.

My background - 4000 hours in civil and mil aircraft including fighters. Test pilot, flown 50+ different types of aircraft.

Rob Longenecker · 09-29-2006, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronbof117

The Angels don't fly with G-Suits because with having a center stick on the Hornet, if you're resting your flying wrist and forearm on the top of your thigh, when the G-Suit inflates it changes the back stick pressure on the stick. It's tough to be smooth if flying that way (which everyone does) with the pressure in the G-Suit changing.

Hmmm. Isn't that exactly what I said in the post? Well, glad to have some back-up on that.

Quote:

That's one of the nice features of the Viper (F-16) which employs a side stick. Doesn't matter what the G-Suit is doing, only what you're doing to the stick yourself. If I remember the specs right, full pitch travel from neutral is 1/2" and roll is 1/4". Auto trim to 1G, good flying qualities.

My background - 4000 hours in civil and mil aircraft including fighters. Test pilot, flown 50+ different types of aircraft.

What do you know? There is such a thing as an old, bold pilot.

09-28-2006, 11:16 PM	#1
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09-28-2006, 11:51 PM	#2
jednp XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 4,691	i just saw them perform last weekend, and it was cloudy and windy so the show was low. next day was a beautiful day and nobody wanted to freakin go with me and I didn't feel like sitting at an airshow all day by myself. now after watching the vid, it just reminds me that I wish I had just gone! whaaaaaaaaaa

09-29-2006, 02:08 PM	#6
TheXDkid XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 628	wow... those of us that cannot get a coach where do we start books and movies??

09-29-2006, 10:15 PM	#9
ronbof117 XDTalk Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 45	No G-Suit Due to Center Stick The Angels don't fly with G-Suits because with having a center stick on the Hornet, if you're resting your flying wrist and forearm on the top of your thigh, when the G-Suit inflates it changes the back stick pressure on the stick. It's tough to be smooth if flying that way (which everyone does) with the pressure in the G-Suit changing. That's one of the nice features of the Viper (F-16) which employs a side stick. Doesn't matter what the G-Suit is doing, only what you're doing to the stick yourself. If I remember the specs right, full pitch travel from neutral is 1/2" and roll is 1/4". Auto trim to 1G, good flying qualities. My background - 4000 hours in civil and mil aircraft including fighters. Test pilot, flown 50+ different types of aircraft.

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