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jcabin · 03-02-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DanTheEldest

That's the first I've heard of a distance standard in determining criminal charges. I'm not trying to dump on you--I've just never heard that shooting someone pointing a gun at you at 15 yards might be considered criminally different than inside 12 or 10. What state are you in?

lol

CrAz3D · 03-02-2008, 01:52 PM

At about 7 yards I hit within the red everytime http://home.comcast.net/~dave_in_del...red-circle.pdf

... except for the first little guy, ha. But this was only my second time out with her

jcabin · 03-02-2008, 01:54 PM

im going to post a new thread tommorow about this thought of being liable for first degree murder if the person is beyond a set distance. my professor has been a lawyer for over 30 years and in that time was a DA. He would know, atleast for pennsylvania anyway

cid_ayrbourne · 03-02-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cozy338

Depends on the state. IIRC in FL it's 25ft...since less than that is the distance that someone (LEO, lawyer. govmnt??) has determined a running person can still cover after being shot. As I recall they concluded that a knife is a bad thing if it hits you with the momentum of someone behind it

. Now, having said that, if someone is pointing a gun at you from greater distance you don't have to let them shoot you!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTF?! I've lived in Florida most of my life, have gotten my CCW and studied up on all the pertinent laws, and my father is a retired sheriff's officer - and this is the first I've ever heard of such a law. Even when the laws stated you had to retreat, I had never heard of anything specifying a range.

Anyways - that aside, I shoot at between 3-25 yards at my indoor range, and 25 yards at my outdoor range. Occationally, I'll shoot at the extreme range for that range (40 yards indoor or 50 outdoor) as a control excerise, but the closer practice is more valuable for real-world application.

motorcyclemac · 03-02-2008, 02:03 PM

Normally I will shoot between 7-100 yards. At 7 yards it is about a 1" hole rapid fire. Out at 25 yards it is about 3-4 inch group. By the time we get to 100 yards we are looking at a 12" to 15" group. I see some key holing at 100 yards from bullet tumble. I really don't think there is a lot of energy at 100 yards from a 40S&W. BUT...that being said I think it would seriously alter someone's intentions to get hit in the chest with a 180 grainer doing 400-600 fps.

If I am shooting my S&W 686 .357 Magnum with 6" barrel from 100 yards using 180 silhouette bullets...then we get some action. Accuracy is better by a couple inches with groups showing about 9-10 inches. That load still wacks the steel trap with "authority".

Beyond 100 yards....switch to rifle.

Cheers
Mac.

jim331656 · 03-02-2008, 02:23 PM

most of my ammo goes through at 7-10 yards.. Then I'll back it up and shoot some at 15 and some at 25. I am a new shooter as well but at 25 I get them all within the 8 ring on the big silhouette target.

jon45xdtac · 03-02-2008, 02:26 PM

I would imagine that the use of deadly force would be different depending on the particular situation, regardless of the range. As was stated multiple times earlier in this post, if a BG is firing at me from 20 yards away, I would most certainly aim to kill. Indiana has about the most forgiving laws in regards to home defense.

GhostWolfXD · 03-02-2008, 04:36 PM

I usually shoot between 5 and 15 yards, including having the target come back at me from 25 yards out while shooting and switching clips like if someone was running straight at me.

Noah Mercy · 03-02-2008, 05:17 PM

I usually practice quick presentations and double-taps or hammers at 50 feet, and test loads for groupability at the same distance from a bench. Good loads go into one ragged hole about 3/4 inch across from either my 40 or 45 XD. 385 yards is the longest shooting I've tried so far with my Springfields. At that distance, I can pretty consistently get 5 rounds from a full mag on a B27 silhouette.

And for you misguided folks who think there is some sort of distance limit for self defense shooting...up your freakin' dosage! If someone is shooting at you from a hundred yards out with an AK, there is no obligation to wait until they close the distance before returning fire. Get a clue.

pleasantguywhopacksAXD · 03-02-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Noah Mercy

I usually practice quick presentations and double-taps or hammers at 50 feet, and test loads for groupability at the same distance from a bench. Good loads go into one ragged hole about 3/4 inch across from either my 40 or 45 XD. 385 yards is the longest shooting I've tried so far with my Springfields. At that distance, I can pretty consistently get 5 rounds from a full mag on a B27 silhouette.

And for you misguided folks who think there is some sort of distance limit for self defense shooting...up your freakin' dosage! If someone is shooting at you from a hundred yards out with an AK, there is no obligation to wait until they close the distance before returning fire. Get a clue.

Amen brother.

I would adivise shooting at many distances varying from contact to 25 yds.
Odds are if you ever do get into a shoot, you are going to be smelling the BG's breath before you smell gunpowder from your gun. Probably your shot will be from retention and hope you have your mechanics down to muscle memory so that you don't shoot your andreniline filled empty weak hand off accidently. It happens.

03-02-2008, 01:52 PM	#42
CrAz3D XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 137	At about 7 yards I hit within the red everytime http://home.comcast.net/~dave_in_del...red-circle.pdf ... except for the first little guy, ha. But this was only my second time out with her __________________ "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - TJ (Thomas Jefferson) Daily Crazed

03-02-2008, 02:26 PM	#47
jon45xdtac XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 223	Self defense or murder? I would imagine that the use of deadly force would be different depending on the particular situation, regardless of the range. As was stated multiple times earlier in this post, if a BG is firing at me from 20 yards away, I would most certainly aim to kill. Indiana has about the most forgiving laws in regards to home defense. __________________ Springfield XD 45 ACP 5" Tactical Bersa Thunder 9mm "Walk softly and carry a big stick." - Theodore Roosevelt

03-02-2008, 04:36 PM	#48
GhostWolfXD XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 20	I usually shoot between 5 and 15 yards, including having the target come back at me from 25 yards out while shooting and switching clips like if someone was running straight at me. __________________ XD45C Tactical

03-02-2008, 05:17 PM	#49
Noah Mercy XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sheridan, Wyoming Posts: 276	I usually practice quick presentations and double-taps or hammers at 50 feet, and test loads for groupability at the same distance from a bench. Good loads go into one ragged hole about 3/4 inch across from either my 40 or 45 XD. 385 yards is the longest shooting I've tried so far with my Springfields. At that distance, I can pretty consistently get 5 rounds from a full mag on a B27 silhouette. And for you misguided folks who think there is some sort of distance limit for self defense shooting...up your freakin' dosage! If someone is shooting at you from a hundred yards out with an AK, there is no obligation to wait until they close the distance before returning fire. Get a clue. __________________ I may be fat, hairy, and ugly...BUT AT LEAST I SMELL BAD!

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03-02-2008, 01:54 PM	#43
jcabin XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 533	im going to post a new thread tommorow about this thought of being liable for first degree murder if the person is beyond a set distance. my professor has been a lawyer for over 30 years and in that time was a DA. He would know, atleast for pennsylvania anyway

03-02-2008, 02:03 PM	#45
motorcyclemac XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 121	Normally I will shoot between 7-100 yards. At 7 yards it is about a 1" hole rapid fire. Out at 25 yards it is about 3-4 inch group. By the time we get to 100 yards we are looking at a 12" to 15" group. I see some key holing at 100 yards from bullet tumble. I really don't think there is a lot of energy at 100 yards from a 40S&W. BUT...that being said I think it would seriously alter someone's intentions to get hit in the chest with a 180 grainer doing 400-600 fps. If I am shooting my S&W 686 .357 Magnum with 6" barrel from 100 yards using 180 silhouette bullets...then we get some action. Accuracy is better by a couple inches with groups showing about 9-10 inches. That load still wacks the steel trap with "authority". Beyond 100 yards....switch to rifle. Cheers Mac.

03-02-2008, 02:23 PM	#46
jim331656 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: People's Republic of NJ Posts: 144	most of my ammo goes through at 7-10 yards.. Then I'll back it up and shoot some at 15 and some at 25. I am a new shooter as well but at 25 I get them all within the 8 ring on the big silhouette target.