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goodnickels · 05-03-2006, 09:25 AM

I just bought my first firearm, an XD9 Tactical. I've got half of my waiting period left, and while I'm sure the manual will answer my question.. it's been bugging me, and I figured it would be a good opportunity to post (since I've been lurking for a few weeks).

At any rate.. the question I have is about the Cocked indicator and the chambered round indicator. The chambered round indicator makes plenty of sense to me.. but the cocked indicator is a bit confusing... If the XD is single action, when is it not cocked?

I guess I understand that if the slide was forward, and there wasn't a round in the chamber.. the cocked indicator may be in either position (depending on whether or not the gun has been dry-fired). But I guess my confusion is about it's correlation to the chambered indicator... Whenever there's a round chambered, won't the gun be cocked? So is the only time the cocked indicator is interesting is when the chamber is empty?

I must be missing something, since that would seem to render the indicator pretty darned uninteresting. At any rate, I'd really appreciate an education. I've been incredibly impressed by the patience and compassion I've seen demonstrated here.

Thanks
-Phill

wolfsburg_de · 05-03-2006, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by goodnickels

So is the only time the cocked indicator is interesting is when the chamber is empty?

You've got a point there. I'm having trouble picturing a scenario where there is a round in the chamber but yet the firing pin isn't cocked ... except if there was a misfire

Apdl · 05-03-2006, 09:35 AM

yea misfire that be about it
it has been discussed here before but when it is unloaded i like to keep it uncocked so it is nice to know

mcb · 05-03-2006, 09:35 AM

Mostly a confidence thing I think. Its dark in your house and your woken by the sound of breaking glass. You retrieve your XD from you lock night stand in the dark. A quick scan with your hand across the loaded chamber indicator lets you know the gun has a round chambered. Your thumb slipping across the rear of the slide confirms that the striker is cocked and that the weapon is ready.

Yeah your right for the most part if the gun is loaded the striker will be cocked. But by confirming this with the striker indicator lets you confirm it and that the weapon has not malfunctioned in some horrible way.

mcb

goodnickels · 05-03-2006, 09:39 AM

And here I was thinking the lack of a really loud bang and a hole in front of me was the only way I'd know it had misfired, good to know there's another way to tell

I suppose it's also helpful for anyone who has a habit of putting his gun away with a misfired round in it, so that when you go fumbling around in the dark you can tell

At any rate, thanks. At least now I don't feel nuts for not being able to figure that thing out for a few days!

wolfsburg_de · 05-03-2006, 11:25 AM

Now all you have to do is enjoy the waiting game ... tick .... tock ...

mcb · 05-03-2006, 11:29 AM

Just though of another good use for it. I do it all the time I can't believe I did not think of it for my first post.

I use my XD-40 tactical to shoot USPSA. For safety the matches are run as cold ranges. This means that all weapon are unloaded, magazines removed and hammers down on an empty chamber. The striker indicator gives me a visual and tactile indication that I am complying with the rules. I find myself frequently checking the status of my holstered weapon by running my hand over the chamber indicator, striker indicator and checking that the magazine well is empty. Violating this cold range rule can result in a DQ at a match. Safety is taken very serious and without the striker indicator the XD would be much harder to ensure it was in a safe condition at a match.

rambling
mcb

goodnickels · 05-03-2006, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcb

Just though of another good use for it. I do it all the time I can't believe I did not think of it for my first post.

I use my XD-40 tactical to shoot USPSA. For safety the matches are run as cold ranges....

That makes sense...

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Originally Posted by wolfsburg_de

Now all you have to do is enjoy the waiting game ... tick .... tock ...

Eh. Would have been easier if I hadn't managed to span the waiting period over not one, but two weekends. Next time I'm buying on a Monday

manic mechanic · 05-03-2006, 11:56 AM

A lot of people also seem to ride the stop lever and it would close the slide on an empty chamber. If you weren't counting rounds you might catch sight of the indicator in the down position and the cocked indicator back. Just another scenario.

goodnickels · 05-03-2006, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manic mechanic

A lot of people also seem to ride the stop lever and it would close the slide on an empty chamber. If you weren't counting rounds you might catch sight of the indicator in the down position and the cocked indicator back. Just another scenario.

I actually had this problem with a few guns I rented. I thought it was the guns at the time but I'm thinking I was probably holding it with my thumb too high.

05-03-2006, 09:25 AM	#1
goodnickels XDTalk Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 26	Cocked indicator question... I just bought my first firearm, an XD9 Tactical. I've got half of my waiting period left, and while I'm sure the manual will answer my question.. it's been bugging me, and I figured it would be a good opportunity to post (since I've been lurking for a few weeks). At any rate.. the question I have is about the Cocked indicator and the chambered round indicator. The chambered round indicator makes plenty of sense to me.. but the cocked indicator is a bit confusing... If the XD is single action, when is it not cocked? I guess I understand that if the slide was forward, and there wasn't a round in the chamber.. the cocked indicator may be in either position (depending on whether or not the gun has been dry-fired). But I guess my confusion is about it's correlation to the chambered indicator... Whenever there's a round chambered, won't the gun be cocked? So is the only time the cocked indicator is interesting is when the chamber is empty? I must be missing something, since that would seem to render the indicator pretty darned uninteresting. At any rate, I'd really appreciate an education. I've been incredibly impressed by the patience and compassion I've seen demonstrated here. Thanks -Phill

05-03-2006, 09:35 AM	#3
Apdl XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Burnsville, MN Posts: 2,354	yea misfire that be about it it has been discussed here before but when it is unloaded i like to keep it uncocked so it is nice to know __________________ "He took off running, and we caught him, and he just kept resisting. So we just kept whipping his ass." -HulkXD "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein If you are not part of the solution you are part of the precipitate Springfield XD-9 TOTAL COUNT 8206 Daily Carry Springfield 1911 Loaded Target 9mm Walther P22... needs bigger mag Ruger 10/22 Carbine Remington 700 SPS Tactical .308 Win EBR Build in progress

05-03-2006, 09:35 AM	#4
mcb XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North East Ohio Posts: 2,052	Mostly a confidence thing I think. Its dark in your house and your woken by the sound of breaking glass. You retrieve your XD from you lock night stand in the dark. A quick scan with your hand across the loaded chamber indicator lets you know the gun has a round chambered. Your thumb slipping across the rear of the slide confirms that the striker is cocked and that the weapon is ready. Yeah your right for the most part if the gun is loaded the striker will be cocked. But by confirming this with the striker indicator lets you confirm it and that the weapon has not malfunctioned in some horrible way. mcb __________________ If at first you don't succeed; RELOAD _ _ _ _ My web site

05-03-2006, 11:25 AM	#6
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05-03-2006, 11:29 AM	#7
mcb XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North East Ohio Posts: 2,052	Just though of another good use for it. I do it all the time I can't believe I did not think of it for my first post. I use my XD-40 tactical to shoot USPSA. For safety the matches are run as cold ranges. This means that all weapon are unloaded, magazines removed and hammers down on an empty chamber. The striker indicator gives me a visual and tactile indication that I am complying with the rules. I find myself frequently checking the status of my holstered weapon by running my hand over the chamber indicator, striker indicator and checking that the magazine well is empty. Violating this cold range rule can result in a DQ at a match. Safety is taken very serious and without the striker indicator the XD would be much harder to ensure it was in a safe condition at a match. rambling mcb __________________ If at first you don't succeed; RELOAD _ _ _ _ My web site

05-03-2006, 09:39 AM	#5
goodnickels XDTalk Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 26	And here I was thinking the lack of a really loud bang and a hole in front of me was the only way I'd know it had misfired, good to know there's another way to tell I suppose it's also helpful for anyone who has a habit of putting his gun away with a misfired round in it, so that when you go fumbling around in the dark you can tell At any rate, thanks. At least now I don't feel nuts for not being able to figure that thing out for a few days!

05-03-2006, 11:56 AM	#9
manic mechanic XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: michigan, down the river Posts: 1,128	A lot of people also seem to ride the stop lever and it would close the slide on an empty chamber. If you weren't counting rounds you might catch sight of the indicator in the down position and the cocked indicator back. Just another scenario. __________________ The 2nd amendment makes all the others possible. If we ever forget that we're One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under." Ronald Reagan

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