Racking the slide.....

[jloneill17]

Yea, that was fast.

[jj79]

Originally Posted by Dutchie_in_Mobile

Thnx JJ,

I appreciate your (and everyone else....) input. What would be a good .22 gun to start with? And should it be a used or new gun? thinking of what you're saying it may actually be a real good gun to have my wife start training with as well (once I can convince her to go with me.... ). I guess, once I (and her) am done with it I can give it to my wife for her to carry or use around the house when I am not there....

dutchie...

I'd find a used one in good shape... as far as which gun goes, any of the suggestions XDRox made would be good choices (although personally, I'd pass on the Beretta). my choice would be either the Ruger or Browning...(Ruger will be much cheaper, but is still a quality gun).

it's an excellent idea to start your wife shooting a .22...can't go wrong there. if you can afford it, pick up a .22 rifle as well (Ruger 10/22 is a great choice).

as far as your wife using a .22 for carry/home defense, I'd advise against that, unless there are no other guns available to her. while the .22 is better than nothing at all, it is generally accepted that the .22 is NOT an acceptable defense caliber. there will be some who disagree with this, but trust me, they are a small percentage.

the .22 is an excellent plinking/learning/small-game hunting round, but for a defense gun there are much better/wiser choices.

hope this helps...


-JJ

[Dutchie_in_Mobile]

Well, my first the Sunday morning on the shooting range was an absolute blast! What a lot of fun that is! And though I was all over the place with my placement I did see some improvement towards the end.... Although due to my hands and arms getting tired it went sour later on again.....
I will try to take some pictures of my targets (of course I saved them...) and post them up here.

Originally Posted by Singleshot

I just bought a ST, took about 4 days to get mine. I wear mine at about the four o'clock position. I have a SA XDm 9mm and it works great with the ST holster.

I also got the Crossbreed Supertuck on Saturday with the morning mail! So it was really fast, seeing that I placed the order on the 21st at 5.30 pm and Saturday was the 24th! I haven't tried it yet but I will later as soon as I have a chance. At least it looks really nicely made!

Originally Posted by jj79

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I'd recommend getting a good used .22 pistol to practice/learn with. your 1st two handgun purchases, although excellent choices for self-defense, are not the most forgiving guns to shoot/learn with (especially the .357 snubbie).

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-JJ

I definitely want to get me a .22! I shot both the SA XD .40 SC and the Rossi .357 revolver but especially the Rossi with the .357 Magnum loads kicks a lot! After two loads (of 6 each) of the .357's my hands were tired! The .38 Special were better but still had quite a kick to them. And I think it will make it easier to show my wife how to do it and keep her interested without discouraging her.... I think I may even get my kids (slowly) involved with that one.
I loved the SA! I put a total of 95 rounds through that one. One box of 50 that I brought and then had to get another box at the Range shop 'cause I liked it so much!!! I would have done more but it was very busy at the range so the guys in my group and I changed out on our line every so often and I was only there for about 2.5 hrs (shooting time that is...)!

Well, I guess I need to look into cleaning the guns now because that is something I also don't know how to do. I hope to be able to get around to doing that toninght! Unfortunately I didn't have time to do that on Sunday.... Any advise that you guys can give on that? I am sure there are some threads here on cleaning too..... I'll start my search later on.

Anyway, just to make a long story not much longer.... I had fun and I am definitely doing it more often. I need to check out the indoor range around the corner since it is 2-3 minutes away and the Styx Rvier range is about an hour away! More shooting time!

Alrighty then.... later. Dutchie.

[XDRoX]

Originally Posted by jj79

dutchie...

I'd find a used one in good shape... as far as which gun goes, any of the suggestions XDRox made would be good choices (although personally, I'd pass on the Beretta). my choice would be either the Ruger or Browning...(Ruger will be much cheaper, but is still a quality gun).

it's an excellent idea to start your wife shooting a .22...can't go wrong there. if you can afford it, pick up a .22 rifle as well (Ruger 10/22 is a great choice).

as far as your wife using a .22 for carry/home defense, I'd advise against that, unless there are no other guns available to her. while the .22 is better than nothing at all, it is generally accepted that the .22 is NOT an acceptable defense caliber. there will be some who disagree with this, but trust me, they are a small percentage.

the .22 is an excellent plinking/learning/small-game hunting round, but for a defense gun there are much better/wiser choices.

hope this helps...


-JJ

Why no love for the Neos

[jj79]

Originally Posted by XDRoX

Why no love for the Neos

just not a Beretta fan... had a 9000s a few years back... it wasn't bad, but I wasn't crazy about it either.

shot some 92's a bit as well...same deal there, not bad guns, but nothing special either, IMO.

it's just a personal preference thing... I like Sigs/XD's/1911's way more than anything Beretta, but that's just me. (well, I wouldn't mind a nice Beretta shotgun, but who can actually afford one of those!!? )

I'm sure the Neos is a decent gun, I'd just take the Ruger/Browning myself.

now, in a perfect world, Springfield would make an XD in .22!!!


-JJ

[XDRoX]

Originally Posted by jj79

just not a Beretta fan... had a 9000s a few years back... it wasn't bad, but I wasn't crazy about it either.

shot some 92's a bit as well...same deal there, not bad guns, but nothing special either, IMO.

it's just a personal preference thing... I like Sigs/XD's/1911's way more than anything Beretta, but that's just me. (well, I wouldn't mind a nice Beretta shotgun, but who can actually afford one of those!!? )

I'm sure the Neos is a decent gun, I'd just take the Ruger/Browning myself.

now, in a perfect world, Springfield would make an XD in .22!!!


-JJ

Sometimes I wonder why Springfield or Glock won't make a .22 also. That would be awesome. You'd think they'd make a killing Wonder why they won't do it.

[jj79]

Originally Posted by XDRoX

Sometimes I wonder why Springfield or Glock won't make a .22 also. That would be awesome. You'd think they'd make a killing Wonder why they won't do it.

I think it may be because they're already makin' a killing without selling .22's...

you never can tell though...if ammo prices keep going up, I think you'll see manufacturers offering lot's of options in .22. already starting to see it in the AR market.

oh well, guess we'll just have to keep our fingers crossed...


-JJ

[jj79]

Originally Posted by Dutchie_in_Mobile

Well, I guess I need to look into cleaning the guns now because that is something I also don't know how to do. I hope to be able to get around to doing that toninght! Unfortunately I didn't have time to do that on Sunday.... Any advise that you guys can give on that?

hey Dutchie...

here is a link to a vid on cleaning the XD...while I personally do a couple things different, this guy's instructions are pretty good; this'll get you headed in the right direction...

YouTube - Cleaning the Springfield XD Series

a couple of additional tips:

1) make sure you clean your mags also...(I clean mine every couple trips to the range). here's a link: YouTube - Cleaning Handgun Magazines

2) a Hoppe's Boresnake will save you a lot of time/patches. here's a link: Hoppe's 9 - BoreSnakes

3) I highly recommend Breakfree CLP...(nope, I don't work for'em, just use it, and like it.) + if it's good enough for our troops, it's worth looking into.

CLP also eliminates the need for multiple chemicals; only 1 bottle to keep up with...

one more note...make sure you lube the pistol well. it has to be lubed to work properly. here's a link that explains more about why: Weapon Lubricant for Reliable FIrearm Function

good advice, from someone who has probably forgotten more about guns than most of us will ever learn...

now for the revolver... here's a cleaning link for it: YouTube - Cleaning Revolvers

same general principle as cleaning the pistol, just a bit different. (cleaning the revolver is what will make you love that Boresnake.)

hope this helps... holler if you have more questions.


-JJ

[Dutchie_in_Mobile]

Originally Posted by jj79

hey Dutchie...

here is a link to a vid on cleaning the XD...while I personally do a couple things different, this guy's instructions are pretty good; this'll get you headed in the right direction...

YouTube - Cleaning the Springfield XD Series

a couple of additional tips:

1) make sure you clean your mags also...(I clean mine every couple trips to the range). here's a link: YouTube - Cleaning Handgun Magazines

2) a Hoppe's Boresnake will save you a lot of time/patches. here's a link: Hoppe's 9 - BoreSnakes

3) I highly recommend Breakfree CLP...(nope, I don't work for'em, just use it, and like it.) + if it's good enough for our troops, it's worth looking into.

CLP also eliminates the need for multiple chemicals; only 1 bottle to keep up with...

one more note...make sure you lube the pistol well. it has to be lubed to work properly. here's a link that explains more about why: Weapon Lubricant for Reliable FIrearm Function

good advice, from someone who has probably forgotten more about guns than most of us will ever learn...

now for the revolver... here's a cleaning link for it: YouTube - Cleaning Revolvers

same general principle as cleaning the pistol, just a bit different. (cleaning the revolver is what will make you love that Boresnake.)

hope this helps... holler if you have more questions.


-JJ

Thnx a lot JJ,

I hope to be able to get around to doing this (or at least examining the vids...) tonight. Where do you get the bore snake and CLP? Can I get that stuff at my local Walmart? I do have an Academy Sports around here somewhere.....
Any size differences in the bore snake? Or just one size-fits-all?

Sorry about all the questions just want to make sure I do it right the first time and not run around town like a headless chicken trying to get my stuff together....

Thx again to all of you here hleping me out!

Dutchie.

[jj79]

Originally Posted by Dutchie_in_Mobile

Where do you get the bore snake and CLP? Can I get that stuff at my local Walmart? I do have an Academy Sports around here somewhere.....
Any size differences in the bore snake? Or just one size-fits-all?

Walmart should have what you need...if not, Academy definitely will.

as far as the boresnake goes, they are caliber-specific, so you'd need one for the .40 and one for the .357. they usually cost approx. $17.00 each...but trust me, it's $$$ well spent.


-JJ