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jakesford · 10-18-2009, 05:08 PM

absolutely agree, you should take a class to learn about gun safety and also you will learn a thing or two about proper grip, stance, and trigger control. It will make it so much more enjoyable when you first go to the range having been taught the basics.

Reyort · 10-18-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mirage2521

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE go take some NRA classes and don't count on youtube to teach you proper weapon handling. Do me a favor and do you a favor and go and get some real training before you go shooting. You will be glad you did.

Shooting is a great sport with great people and you will meet some of them in your classes you take. On the other hand, I have seen guys at gun ranges with no idea what they were doing and they are a danger to themselves and other and are not welcomed in the gun owner community.

The best case with no training is you go to the range and look stupid and pinch your finger. The worst case is you KILL somebody because you were not trained. Welcome to the forum, welcome to the world of gun ownership, now go get that training!

Ditto this. Past few weeks we have had some really new folks come out to the range. The biggest mistake I see is that they don't always keep the gun pointed down range. Had a guy who would shoot a few times then point his gun down as he looked at the target oblivious to the fact he could have been pointing at someone's feet. Another instance a person was fiddling with their gun with it pointed down that line at me and my buddy. And then yesterday we had 3 guys shooting without hearing protection. So please get some training from a qualified person. You don't want you gun experience cut short because of an accident.

BTW Welcome to the forum

CW45 · 10-18-2009, 06:29 PM

Find and get proper training. It is vital and will get you headed in the right direction. Doing it on your own does not guarantee an accident but it gives it a big head start.

mirage2521 · 10-18-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CW45

Find and get proper training. It is vital and will get you headed in the right direction. Doing it on your own does not guarantee an accident but it gives it a big head start.

Exactly and though an accident is not likely, if one does happen it can be catastophic. In risk assement this makes shooting without training a high risk evolution.

Bud33 · 10-18-2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Reyort

Ditto this. Past few weeks we have had some really new folks come out to the range. The biggest mistake I see is that they don't always keep the gun pointed down range. Had a guy who would shoot a few times then point his gun down as he looked at the target oblivious to the fact he could have been pointing at someone's feet. Another instance a person was fiddling with their gun with it pointed down that line at me and my buddy. And then yesterday we had 3 guys shooting without hearing protection. So please get some training from a qualified person. You don't want you gun experience cut short because of an accident.

BTW Welcome to the forum

It sounds like that range needs some serious supervision...
People should NEVER be allowed to practice poor or dangerous range procedures. It should be the job of everyone on the range to correct
any error in range procedure...

john_bud · 10-18-2009, 11:21 PM

youtube is negligent discharge training ground from the few vids I have looked at.

There is a right way to do stuff, and it's rarely seen in those vids! It seems your common sense was working properly, prompting you to post the question here.

jb

WhitBri · 10-19-2009, 10:27 AM

And if training isn't available in your area. Find someone on the range that does know what he/she is doing and get the advice. Best way to find this person is to talk to a bunch of people at the range and ask who knows their stuff. Most ranges have that one guy or couple guys that know a lot and everyone that shoots their knows it and can point you in that direction. My range had the LEO firearms instructor as a member, everyone pointed me to him and he was more then willing to help me with the basics and all my questions. And I've never heard of anyone getting turned away when asking for help on how to be safe at the range.

Reyort · 10-19-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bud33

It sounds like that range needs some serious supervision...
People should NEVER be allowed to practice poor or dangerous range procedures. It should be the job of everyone on the range to correct
any error in range procedure...

While I agree, it is ultimately up to us to be aware of the folks around us and what they are doing. Even if you have a supervisor out there, something could happen behind him as he is moving on to the next shooter. I think as a community, it is up to us to help in that supervision. 3 pairs of eyes are always better than 1. Sometimes you meet some interesting people through correcting their behavior as long as you are civil about it. Word of advice: Don't let your guard down at the range. Keep an eye on the target and another eye on the people next to you!

reidic · 10-19-2009, 03:02 PM

Just to be another happy guy putting his toes to the lifeless horse, for the love of all safety don't be one of the tools who racks his slide 10 times and acts like they just "cleared" the weapon. If you have an ejector malfunction, a jammed round, or any of another million unlikely but possible situations, you can easily miss a chambered round if all you do is rack your slide. Pull the slide back, lock if you feel it's helpful, visually inspect the chamber, and if you're not sure feel the chamber to ensure there's no cartridge. I don't care if you rack your slide 10,000 times, NEVER consider your firearm cleared until you visually/physically inspect the chamber.

mandohack · 10-19-2009, 08:41 PM

What you're likely seeing when you see someone racking the slide three or so times in rapid succession is to clear a double feed.

One variation is this: drop or strip the magazine from the magazine well, rack, rack, rack, reinsert magazine or load a new one in case the magazine is the problem, rack to load, and start shooting again.

This is typically left for novice level training. Get some basics down before you worry about rapidly (tactically) clearing your XD of a double feed.

10-18-2009, 05:08 PM	#11
jakesford XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 17	absolutely agree, you should take a class to learn about gun safety and also you will learn a thing or two about proper grip, stance, and trigger control. It will make it so much more enjoyable when you first go to the range having been taught the basics.
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10-18-2009, 06:29 PM	#13
CW45 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: OKC Posts: 224	Find and get proper training. It is vital and will get you headed in the right direction. Doing it on your own does not guarantee an accident but it gives it a big head start.
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10-18-2009, 11:21 PM	#16
john_bud XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 815	youtube is negligent discharge training ground from the few vids I have looked at. There is a right way to do stuff, and it's rarely seen in those vids! It seems your common sense was working properly, prompting you to post the question here. jb __________________ Any way you sell it, no matter how you spell it, when you start to smell it, BO stinks.
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10-19-2009, 10:27 AM	#17
WhitBri XDTalk Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 45	And if training isn't available in your area. Find someone on the range that does know what he/she is doing and get the advice. Best way to find this person is to talk to a bunch of people at the range and ask who knows their stuff. Most ranges have that one guy or couple guys that know a lot and everyone that shoots their knows it and can point you in that direction. My range had the LEO firearms instructor as a member, everyone pointed me to him and he was more then willing to help me with the basics and all my questions. And I've never heard of anyone getting turned away when asking for help on how to be safe at the range.
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10-19-2009, 03:02 PM	#19
reidic XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 370	Just to be another happy guy putting his toes to the lifeless horse, for the love of all safety don't be one of the tools who racks his slide 10 times and acts like they just "cleared" the weapon. If you have an ejector malfunction, a jammed round, or any of another million unlikely but possible situations, you can easily miss a chambered round if all you do is rack your slide. Pull the slide back, lock if you feel it's helpful, visually inspect the chamber, and if you're not sure feel the chamber to ensure there's no cartridge. I don't care if you rack your slide 10,000 times, NEVER consider your firearm cleared until you visually/physically inspect the chamber.
	Share

10-19-2009, 08:41 PM	#20
mandohack XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Mid-Michigan Posts: 185	Likely malfunction drill What you're likely seeing when you see someone racking the slide three or so times in rapid succession is to clear a double feed. One variation is this: drop or strip the magazine from the magazine well, rack, rack, rack, reinsert magazine or load a new one in case the magazine is the problem, rack to load, and start shooting again. This is typically left for novice level training. Get some basics down before you worry about rapidly (tactically) clearing your XD of a double feed. __________________ Semper Fi - USMC 87 - 93 NRA Certified Instructor XD9 Service BiTone XDSC 9mm BiTone XDm 9mm BiTone Orignal SureSights
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