Is this what I hope it's not? - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

**loonybin** · 02-15-2006, 09:08 PM

I read the threads on cracked locking blocks with interest, and thought to myself, "Self, you sure are lucky you have one of the original HS2Ks and don't have the problems folks seem to be having with the newer XDs." I decided to take a look anyway to show what the original quality was like, and this is what I found:

So, tell me: am I seeing what I think I'm seeing?

Gen. 1 HS2000 purchased in May 2000. I don't have a lot of money to shoot, so it only has around 2500 rounds through it. I had Robar put their NP3 on it back in 2003.

jednp · 02-15-2006, 09:09 PM

I'm going to say it appears that what you think you are seeing, is actually what you think it is. I'm curious what the new versions that are suppose to relieve stress look like, cuz I have no clue if the one in my gun is an old or new style.

JHA XD40 · 02-15-2006, 09:18 PM

Rotten luck. Get on the horn with SA and get that taken care of, pronto.

I've been keeping an eye on mine. It is good so far with about 2800 rounds through it.

I think that is about the best pic (quality wise) of a cracked locking block that I have seen on here.

Good luck

jonas

DJDan · 02-15-2006, 09:21 PM

Awww Snaaaap! That shizzz be cracked 'na 'm' sayin'?

Seriously...it's cracked. I THOUGHT my locking block was cracked on my XD-SC but in reality they were machining marks when I looked at it throught a 10X magnifier....yours are cracks.

I'm sorry to say that it looks like it's time to ship it to SA for a new LB.

I'm guessing that shipped and back to your door will be 2-3 weeks max.

The new blocks have two holes radiused out of the corners where the cracks usually occur. I'm sure someone will post a pic of a new block so I'll leave it up to them.

**R Dub** · 02-15-2006, 09:22 PM

Yup. I'd would say you have the condition. Call SA and send it in. They should replace it.
The new locking blocks have sress relief cuts milled into into the corners.

**loonybin** · 02-15-2006, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JHA XD40

I think that is about the best pic (quality wise) of a cracked locking block that I have seen on here.

Thanks. Only took me 20 pics to get that one good one.

My biggest disappointment is that the new locking block will not be NP3 coated like this one is, and SA is under no obligation (legally) to NP3 coat the new one since mine was bought before SA ever got into the mix. It would be awesome customer service, though.

What would happen if I continue to shoot this thing w/ the cracked locking block? I've never noticed a problem when shooting it.

DJDan · 02-15-2006, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loonybin

Quote:

Originally Posted by JHA XD40

I think that is about the best pic (quality wise) of a cracked locking block that I have seen on here.

Thanks. Only took me 20 pics to get that one good one.

My biggest disappointment is that the new locking block will not be NP3 coated like this one is, and SA is under no obligation (legally) to NP3 coat the new one since mine was bought before SA ever got into the mix. It would be awesome customer service, though.

What would happen if I continue to shoot this thing w/ the cracked locking block? I've never noticed a problem when shooting it.

I highly doubt they will NP3 it for you but don't fret. I have not heard of anyone having locking block rust or corrossion issues. I actually removed the finish on my XD-9SC and it operates MUCH more smoothly. I carry this pistol daily and have not had any LB rust issues even with no finish.

Adam-12 · 02-16-2006, 07:41 AM

loonybin,

Unfortunately that is what you hoped it wasn't. Good picture of it by the way.
As for your question in reference to shooting it with the fractures as they are, I would guess that it would be ok as long as they don't progress any further. I would be willing to bet that there are a few if not many locking blocks similar to your's that are still going strong and probably will go undetected by the owner and yetnot have/will nothave any failures. You should continue to monitor the stress fractures on your LB to see if they continue to expand. It's possible that they may have leveled out and might not get any worse, however keep an eye on it. To be on the safe side it probably would be a good idea to contact SA to see what they have to say.

R/T Performance · 02-16-2006, 07:53 AM

Just send it in those are long cracks

backlash · 02-16-2006, 08:10 AM

Oh man, that's bad news. I have put about 3000 rounds through mine since Jan...I will be inspecting mine tonight, I hope I don't see any bad news

02-15-2006, 09:08 PM	#1
loonybin XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: central Kansas Posts: 1,524	Is this what I hope it's not? I read the threads on cracked locking blocks with interest, and thought to myself, "Self, you sure are lucky you have one of the original HS2Ks and don't have the problems folks seem to be having with the newer XDs." I decided to take a look anyway to show what the original quality was like, and this is what I found: So, tell me: am I seeing what I think I'm seeing? Gen. 1 HS2000 purchased in May 2000. I don't have a lot of money to shoot, so it only has around 2500 rounds through it. I had Robar put their NP3 on it back in 2003. __________________ Tempus fugit. Frater, memento mori. Happy is what you make it -- always has been, always will be.

02-15-2006, 09:18 PM	#3
JHA XD40 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Central Alabama Posts: 478	Rotten luck. Get on the horn with SA and get that taken care of, pronto. I've been keeping an eye on mine. It is good so far with about 2800 rounds through it. I think that is about the best pic (quality wise) of a cracked locking block that I have seen on here. Good luck jonas __________________ "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." --Dr. Johnson

02-15-2006, 09:21 PM	#4
DJDan XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,334	Awww Snaaaap! That shizzz be cracked 'na 'm' sayin'? Seriously...it's cracked. I THOUGHT my locking block was cracked on my XD-SC but in reality they were machining marks when I looked at it throught a 10X magnifier....yours are cracks. I'm sorry to say that it looks like it's time to ship it to SA for a new LB. I'm guessing that shipped and back to your door will be 2-3 weeks max. The new blocks have two holes radiused out of the corners where the cracks usually occur. I'm sure someone will post a pic of a new block so I'll leave it up to them. __________________ I like turtles.

02-15-2006, 09:22 PM	#5
R Dub XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Last Frontier Posts: 3,628 Blog Entries: 1	Yup. I'd would say you have the condition. Call SA and send it in. They should replace it. The new locking blocks have sress relief cuts milled into into the corners. __________________ Need XD Accessories? Support the XDTalk Sponsors. They support us! Need some competition? IDPA / USPSA

02-16-2006, 07:53 AM	#9
R/T Performance XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saranac Mi Posts: 3,491	Just send it in those are long cracks __________________ XD-9 Tacticle Tru-glow tfo's 3# Canyoncreek trigger Dillon Rl550 1911 Springfield Champion loaded 45 acp Kahr p40 Watch me shoot http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...32660329653237

02-15-2006, 09:09 PM	#2
jednp XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 4,691	I'm going to say it appears that what you think you are seeing, is actually what you think it is. I'm curious what the new versions that are suppose to relieve stress look like, cuz I have no clue if the one in my gun is an old or new style.

02-16-2006, 07:41 AM	#8
Adam-12 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 11	loonybin, Unfortunately that is what you hoped it wasn't. Good picture of it by the way. As for your question in reference to shooting it with the fractures as they are, I would guess that it would be ok as long as they don't progress any further. I would be willing to bet that there are a few if not many locking blocks similar to your's that are still going strong and probably will go undetected by the owner and yetnot have/will nothave any failures. You should continue to monitor the stress fractures on your LB to see if they continue to expand. It's possible that they may have leveled out and might not get any worse, however keep an eye on it. To be on the safe side it probably would be a good idea to contact SA to see what they have to say.

02-16-2006, 08:10 AM	#10
backlash XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 21	Oh man, that's bad news. I have put about 3000 rounds through mine since Jan...I will be inspecting mine tonight, I hope I don't see any bad news __________________ XD9 Tactical OD green Ruger 10/22 with some upgrades Benelli Nova Tactical

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