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Jumbo · 02-04-2006, 08:26 PM

I know this might not be the right place, but i figured this is where i'd get the answer soonest. I'm just curiour, i googled it and hit a lot of sites selling them, but not sure. Will this hold an iwb holster pretty good? Of these two, which would be better? Please help.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWA:IT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWA:IT

thanks

jdavionic · 02-04-2006, 09:02 PM

I'm not a LEO; but I believe they're also referred to as Equipment Belts. Yes, it will hold a IWB holster sturdy - BUT, they are usually very thick, wide, and black. I wouldn't get one just for everyday wear for a holster.

Jumbo · 02-04-2006, 10:03 PM

jd, so you think the 2nd one, then? The plain black heavy duty would work ok?

jdavionic · 02-05-2006, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jumbo

jd, so you think the 2nd one, then? The plain black heavy duty would work ok?

The second one looks like it would work fine and not be too obvious. IMO, you want a belt that is sturdy enough to hold the hooks (or loops) of an IWB and will keep it in place. For me, I bought a regular belt from a clothing store to do the job. It just a normal, brown belt that doesn't stand out at all. It's about the same width as the one the second one that you listed. I think I paid $15 for it on sale. I should get a black one too. For now if I have my shirt tucked in, I move my cell phone near it to help hide the j hook of the holster.

The first belt that you had there just looked too much like a LEO belt, less the pepper spray pouch, handcuff pouch, etc.

As long as it's a sturdy belt, I think it just boils down to a matter of taste.

**Frenchy** · 02-05-2006, 05:19 AM

It's a heavy-weight uniform pants belt. Usually 1 1/2" to 1 3/4" in width. Normally plain black or basketweave.
Check Galls or Quartermaster Supply for a better price.

nogoa · 02-05-2006, 09:38 AM

DING! DING! DING! DING!

Fenchy IS THE WINNER!

The garrison belt holds your pants up and is made sturdy enough for the "Sam Browne", "duty" belt, or "Batman utility belt" to attach to.

Yes they are purfect for any holster carry as long as the belt loops or hooks fit.

RonS · 02-05-2006, 09:45 AM

Garrison belts are 1 3/4" wide and the thing that is distinctive is the buckle. The buckle is square and the belt attaches in the middle, so that the onter end of the belt passes under one side, across the middle and out under the other side. A good one makes a great gunbelt, but there are cheap thin ones out there that are flimsy and will roll at the top under the weight of a gun. (The kind that the Air Force used to issue, for example.) I perfered the garrison belt to the Sam Browne belt we were later issued because I did not weigh myself down with the mass of junk that a lot of guys did. The only down side for CCW is that it looks like a uniform belt, so you may get a second look from either cops or BGs to see if they can spot your gun.

The provenance of the term refers to the belt being worn by troops in garrison as a pant belt, as opposed to a wider, heavier equipment belt worn in the field.

http://www.copsplus.com/garrisonbelts.php

Classic garrison belt at botton left of the page.

**Ed Ely** · 02-05-2006, 12:54 PM

The garrison belt comes from way back during the
WW1. It was the name given the heavy leather belt
which served as a means to hold up ones pants and
also to attach your gear to.

It was also the device that my dad, god love his soul,
used to bust mine and my brothers arse with when we
got out of line. Wasn't any fun after any bout with the
'bruiser'. That was the means to communicate back
then. Today, the social services bunch would have
someone jailed, signed, sealed and delivered to the
prison farm for 900 years after such a performance.

Ah.........the garrison belt, kept many a lad in tow!

Ed

**Frenchy** · 02-05-2006, 01:07 PM

My dad's preference was the razor strop for attitude adjusting!

Jumbo · 02-08-2006, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Ely

It was also the device that my dad, god love his soul,
used to bust mine and my brothers arse with when we
got out of line.

Lucky you, my dad was a carpenter. So i got bike and skateboard ramps when i was younger, and speaker boxes when i was older, but i used to hide paddles all around the house until i figured out there was an unlimited supply. Also, every time i hid one, the next one he brought home was bigger. Did'nt take long to sink in.

Funny footnote, my parents moved out of the house i grew up in (they lived there 23 years) and found 6 paddles hidden in various places.

Thanks for the info on the belts, guys. I have to get a wide, thick one becuase my fat ass makes them sag (or is it my fat gut? Probably) after about 2 weeks.

02-04-2006, 08:26 PM	#1
Jumbo XDTalk Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Arkansas Posts: 44	what is a garrison belt? I know this might not be the right place, but i figured this is where i'd get the answer soonest. I'm just curiour, i googled it and hit a lot of sites selling them, but not sure. Will this hold an iwb holster pretty good? Of these two, which would be better? Please help. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWA:IT http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWA:IT thanks

02-05-2006, 05:19 AM	#5
Frenchy XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Mid-Missouri Posts: 13,168	It's a heavy-weight uniform pants belt. Usually 1 1/2" to 1 3/4" in width. Normally plain black or basketweave. Check Galls or Quartermaster Supply for a better price. __________________ ~SC Harvey~ 2008 Election..."Embrace your ignorance, and vote your preference". It's quite simple, really... *If you vote for Obama, you are a fuking idiot. If you vote for McCain, you are a fuking idiot.* *If your vote is for the lessor of two evils, then you can be comforted knowing that you're less of a fuking idiot than the other guy! Because Fritz says so! RON PAUL IN 2008**

02-05-2006, 09:38 AM	#6
nogoa XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Fl Posts: 353	DING! DING! DING! DING! Fenchy IS THE WINNER! The garrison belt holds your pants up and is made sturdy enough for the "Sam Browne", "duty" belt, or "Batman utility belt" to attach to. Yes they are purfect for any holster carry as long as the belt loops or hooks fit. __________________ 4\" XD-45ACP Beretta 96FS INOX W/ Wolf INS trigger conv unit, Hogue rubber wraparound grip Bersa 380 Thunder DLX W/ Firestorm rubber wraparound grip Firestorm 45 Gov\'t

02-05-2006, 01:07 PM	#9
Frenchy XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Mid-Missouri Posts: 13,168	My dad's preference was the razor strop for attitude adjusting! __________________ ~SC Harvey~ 2008 Election..."Embrace your ignorance, and vote your preference". It's quite simple, really... *If you vote for Obama, you are a fuking idiot. If you vote for McCain, you are a fuking idiot.* *If your vote is for the lessor of two evils, then you can be comforted knowing that you're less of a fuking idiot than the other guy! Because Fritz says so! RON PAUL IN 2008**

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02-04-2006, 09:02 PM	#2
jdavionic XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: GA Posts: 5,105	I'm not a LEO; but I believe they're also referred to as Equipment Belts. Yes, it will hold a IWB holster sturdy - BUT, they are usually very thick, wide, and black. I wouldn't get one just for everyday wear for a holster.

02-04-2006, 10:03 PM	#3
Jumbo XDTalk Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Arkansas Posts: 44	jd, so you think the 2nd one, then? The plain black heavy duty would work ok?

02-05-2006, 09:45 AM	#7
RonS XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 179	Garrison belts are 1 3/4" wide and the thing that is distinctive is the buckle. The buckle is square and the belt attaches in the middle, so that the onter end of the belt passes under one side, across the middle and out under the other side. A good one makes a great gunbelt, but there are cheap thin ones out there that are flimsy and will roll at the top under the weight of a gun. (The kind that the Air Force used to issue, for example.) I perfered the garrison belt to the Sam Browne belt we were later issued because I did not weigh myself down with the mass of junk that a lot of guys did. The only down side for CCW is that it looks like a uniform belt, so you may get a second look from either cops or BGs to see if they can spot your gun. The provenance of the term refers to the belt being worn by troops in garrison as a pant belt, as opposed to a wider, heavier equipment belt worn in the field. http://www.copsplus.com/garrisonbelts.php Classic garrison belt at botton left of the page.

02-05-2006, 12:54 PM	#8
Ed Ely XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: 37.65N -84.76W (Elev. 932 ft) Posts: 7,659 Blog Entries: 1	The garrison belt comes from way back during the WW1. It was the name given the heavy leather belt which served as a means to hold up ones pants and also to attach your gear to. It was also the device that my dad, god love his soul, used to bust mine and my brothers arse with when we got out of line. Wasn't any fun after any bout with the 'bruiser'. That was the means to communicate back then. Today, the social services bunch would have someone jailed, signed, sealed and delivered to the prison farm for 900 years after such a performance. Ah.........the garrison belt, kept many a lad in tow! Ed