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battlecreek1 · 02-02-2006, 10:38 AM

O.K., so I think I finally understand all the innerworkings of the XD...finally. I watched the Lenny Magill DVD and it helped alot (I am a visual person). So, now I realize how safe the XD really is... but this leads me to one big hypothetical question:

1) If the piece of the firing pin that sticks out and makes contact with the Firing Pin Safety broke off, would the gun discharge? Also, can anyone think of any concievable reason this could ever happen (i.e. metal fatique)?

2) Is the firing pin manufactured from one solid piece of metal stock, or is the protruding bar welded into place?

Just curious since I am really getting into the innerworkings of my XD.

therooster · 02-02-2006, 10:49 AM

1.) no, i know of someone this happend too and it did not make the gun discharge and it didnot affect the function of the gun.

2.)i believe its solid barstock.

ichy_trigger · 02-02-2006, 11:46 AM

The firing pin and firing pin cocked indicator are seperate pieces of metal and are not joined together in any way. As a matter of fact, the incicator rides inside of the firing pin.

**agalindo** · 02-02-2006, 11:47 AM

If the gun is dropped or something else happens that causes sear to disengage without the trigger being pulled the gun will fire.

ichy_trigger · 02-02-2006, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by agalindo

If the gun is dropped or something else happens that causes sear to disengage without the trigger being pulled the gun will fire.

No it will not fire, there is a firing pin safety that has to be depressed and can only be depressed by pulling the trigger.

mcb · 02-02-2006, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agalindo

If the gun is dropped or something else happens that causes sear to disengage without the trigger being pulled the gun will fire.

No the gun will NOT fire if the trigger is not pulled. If the sear is disengaged, but the trigger is not pulled the internal safety will keep the firing pin from striking the cartridge and thus keep the gun from firing. This is part of the same system that keeps the gun from firing out of battery.

-mcb

battlecreek1 · 02-02-2006, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by therooster

1.) no, i know of someone this happend too and it did not make the gun discharge and it didnot affect the function of the gun.

2.)i believe its solid barstock.

Thanks rooster. Just out of curiousity, what kept it from discharging? I guess the grip safety would keep the sear from disengaging and allowing the firing pin to move forward right? Also, what caused your friend's firing pin to break?

BikeRider · 02-02-2006, 12:32 PM

This is like Glocks. If you drop the gun, don't try to catch it. Let it fall. I guess with the XD you're safer trying to catch it since you have to depress the grip safety and the trigger to fire. But still, probably safer to let it fall.

ampleworks · 02-02-2006, 12:33 PM

How about you guys read what he said in the first question before replying?

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Firing Pin Safety broke off

Bobby Lee · 02-02-2006, 12:33 PM

Since both the sear and firing pin safety works off the tab on the striker, if the striker tab broke off the pistol WILL fire without a trigger pull.

This is a design flaw in the XD. It should have a firing pin lock like the Glock has that works off the shaft of the striker that would make it almost impossible for the pistol to have an AD.

02-02-2006, 10:38 AM	#1
battlecreek1 XDTalk Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 61	Hypothetical Question Regarding Firing Pin O.K., so I think I finally understand all the innerworkings of the XD...finally. I watched the Lenny Magill DVD and it helped alot (I am a visual person). So, now I realize how safe the XD really is... but this leads me to one big hypothetical question: 1) If the piece of the firing pin that sticks out and makes contact with the Firing Pin Safety broke off, would the gun discharge? Also, can anyone think of any concievable reason this could ever happen (i.e. metal fatique)? 2) Is the firing pin manufactured from one solid piece of metal stock, or is the protruding bar welded into place? Just curious since I am really getting into the innerworkings of my XD. __________________ Glock 19 Kel-Tec P3AT Texas CHL Psalm 144:1 \"Blessed is the Lord, my rock, Who trains my hands for war, and my fingers for battle.\"

02-02-2006, 10:49 AM	#2
therooster XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: houston TX Posts: 1,669	1.) no, i know of someone this happend too and it did not make the gun discharge and it didnot affect the function of the gun. 2.)i believe its solid barstock. __________________ live with honor, and let not your death be born by the pallbearers of disgrace, cruelty, weakness, and fear. - Justin Smith in a letter to Lt. Col. Dave Grossman TXDPSA

02-02-2006, 11:46 AM	#3
ichy_trigger XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 7,525	The firing pin and firing pin cocked indicator are seperate pieces of metal and are not joined together in any way. As a matter of fact, the incicator rides inside of the firing pin. __________________ "The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member2645.png

02-02-2006, 12:32 PM	#8
BikeRider XDTalk Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 79	This is like Glocks. If you drop the gun, don't try to catch it. Let it fall. I guess with the XD you're safer trying to catch it since you have to depress the grip safety and the trigger to fire. But still, probably safer to let it fall. __________________ Glock 19 Glock 27 Kimber Stainless Gold Match Ruger Mark II .22 Sig P220R w/Night sights Taurus Raging Bull .44 mag Taurus 85 Taurus 608SS6 Will buy an XD when SA sells parts for them.

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02-02-2006, 12:33 PM	#10
Bobby Lee XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 388	Since both the sear and firing pin safety works off the tab on the striker, if the striker tab broke off the pistol WILL fire without a trigger pull. This is a design flaw in the XD. It should have a firing pin lock like the Glock has that works off the shaft of the striker that would make it almost impossible for the pistol to have an AD.