Are my pre-ban HI-CAP Beretta 92/M9 mags CA LEGAL in my XD? - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

AidanN20 · 01-25-2006, 02:25 AM

I've owned several high cap 15 and 17 rd mags for my Beretta 92/M9 since before 1994 when they banned them here in California...

They are legal for me to still use in my beretta etc.

Well I own a XD-40 that these mags will fit in after *slight* modification to the mag and they still work fine in my baretta as well.

The way I read the law that as long as they still work in my Beretta then they are still legal. Im not manufacturering or causing manufacturer a high-cap magazine as it is already a hi-cap magazine and im not increasing capacity..it actually holds a couple less .40 rounds..

My XD-40 is my CCW carry gun and I would like to use these hi-cap mags in it as I could have 15 rds instead of 10, and have a 15 rd backup mag (could only carry one spare mag instead of two also)..

I know this is *Iffy* in the law..but I want to nail down is it legal or not. It cant be in between... and I believe it is legal.

Anyone have some insight on these

AidanN20 · 01-25-2006, 12:02 PM

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mr0w1 · 01-25-2006, 12:07 PM

Yes, I believe that all of that is correct.

ichy_trigger · 01-25-2006, 12:11 PM

Back before the band ended, alot of us modified Berreta and Ruger mags to use in our XD's.

Tempest · 01-25-2006, 12:42 PM

You got a CCW in Cali?? You'd better start playing the lotto soon...

mullanman · 01-25-2006, 01:22 PM

You may possess them, I wouldn't carry more than 10 in the mag...Otherwise you are not in compliance...I may be wrong...

You can't transfer them, or when you sell the beretta, you can't sell them...you have to throw them away....ugh..silly law.

lilxboi · 01-25-2006, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mullanman

You may possess them, I wouldn't carry more than 10 in the mag...Otherwise you are not in compliance...I may be wrong...

You can't transfer them, or when you sell the beretta, you can't sell them...you have to throw them away....ugh..silly law.

Wanna throw them away in my trashcan?? I've only got hi cap mags for my Taurus pt-911 and my SW 59.

OP- where in Cali are you? I'm going to attempt to get a CCW.

ichy_trigger · 01-25-2006, 03:03 PM

I have a special high-cap trashcan so it will hold all your BAD mags

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AidanN20 · 01-26-2006, 12:03 AM

Well I am in Kern County...

The highest CCW issueing county in CA.

I think Kern issues like more alone than the rest of the state combined..

I work at the largest gun store in our city and our CCW class is packed twice a week of 20 people..

They issue a CCW to pretty much anyone who no criminal background here..

Mountain Cop · 01-26-2006, 01:10 PM

My grandfather was a deputy, then DA investigator in Kern back in the 60's and 70's. I guess that has some affect on why I am a deputy now. Here is the deal (as I understand it): If you have one "high cap" magazine, and you modify it to be used in a different gun, you have not created a new magazine. There are no more hi cap magazines in California than there were prior to your modification. As long as it is possible that your legally posessed the hi capacity magazine in California prior to the ban, you are good. For instance, you could not have legally posessed a hi cap XD magazine prior to the ban because they did not exist! If you do choose to modify a magazine in such a manner, feel free to load it all the way up. There is no law concerning how many rounds you carry, just what magazine they are in. This is how we interpret it a couple counties north of you, but you might ask some of your local gendarme to make sure. Good luck to you!

MC

01-25-2006, 02:25 AM	#1
AidanN20 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4	Are my pre-ban HI-CAP Beretta 92/M9 mags CA LEGAL in my XD? I've owned several high cap 15 and 17 rd mags for my Beretta 92/M9 since before 1994 when they banned them here in California... They are legal for me to still use in my beretta etc. Well I own a XD-40 that these mags will fit in after slight modification to the mag and they still work fine in my baretta as well. The way I read the law that as long as they still work in my Beretta then they are still legal. Im not manufacturering or causing manufacturer a high-cap magazine as it is already a hi-cap magazine and im not increasing capacity..it actually holds a couple less .40 rounds.. My XD-40 is my CCW carry gun and I would like to use these hi-cap mags in it as I could have 15 rds instead of 10, and have a 15 rd backup mag (could only carry one spare mag instead of two also).. I know this is Iffy in the law..but I want to nail down is it legal or not. It cant be in between... and I believe it is legal. Anyone have some insight on these

01-25-2006, 12:07 PM	#3
mr0w1 XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,525	Yes, I believe that all of that is correct. __________________ guns.freaksho.net - My awesome gun website! More guns than ever! (Last updated: July 24, 2006)

01-25-2006, 12:11 PM	#4
ichy_trigger XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 7,417	Back before the band ended, alot of us modified Berreta and Ruger mags to use in our XD's. __________________ "The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member2645.png

01-25-2006, 12:42 PM	#5
Tempest XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 567	You got a CCW in Cali?? You'd better start playing the lotto soon... __________________ Tempest

01-25-2006, 01:22 PM	#6
mullanman XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,909	You may possess them, I wouldn't carry more than 10 in the mag...Otherwise you are not in compliance...I may be wrong... You can't transfer them, or when you sell the beretta, you can't sell them...you have to throw them away....ugh..silly law. __________________ USPSA L2683

01-25-2006, 12:02 PM	#2
AidanN20 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4	ttttttt

01-25-2006, 03:03 PM	#8
ichy_trigger XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 7,417	I have a special high-cap trashcan so it will hold all your BAD mags . __________________ "The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member2645.png

01-26-2006, 12:03 AM	#9
AidanN20 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4	Well I am in Kern County... The highest CCW issueing county in CA. I think Kern issues like more alone than the rest of the state combined.. I work at the largest gun store in our city and our CCW class is packed twice a week of 20 people.. They issue a CCW to pretty much anyone who no criminal background here..

01-26-2006, 01:10 PM	#10
Mountain Cop XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Central California Posts: 201	My grandfather was a deputy, then DA investigator in Kern back in the 60's and 70's. I guess that has some affect on why I am a deputy now. Here is the deal (as I understand it): If you have one "high cap" magazine, and you modify it to be used in a different gun, you have not created a new magazine. There are no more hi cap magazines in California than there were prior to your modification. As long as it is possible that your legally posessed the hi capacity magazine in California prior to the ban, you are good. For instance, you could not have legally posessed a hi cap XD magazine prior to the ban because they did not exist! If you do choose to modify a magazine in such a manner, feel free to load it all the way up. There is no law concerning how many rounds you carry, just what magazine they are in. This is how we interpret it a couple counties north of you, but you might ask some of your local gendarme to make sure. Good luck to you! MC __________________ Guns don\'t kill people - the proper application of sight alignment, sight picture and trigger control kills people.

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