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Red Night Sights ?

Minkman555 — Wed, 16 May 2012 16:15:22 GMT

Well , since joing glocktalk ... I was activated , posted , saw my post last night and then it dissapeared.

I'm trying to see if I should stick with TFO's , but was wondering if anyone makes a red front sight ? I'd love the tfo greens in the back and a red in the front .

I did some googling and came up with nothing.

I can get trijicon hd's , but have had TFO's on all my guns and love them.

Glock 17 sight replacements? Recommendation needed

jtelli71 — Wed, 16 May 2012 13:38:30 GMT

Hi All. I have a Glock 17 purchased in 1993, so first generation. Gun is completely stock and shoots fine. I want to change the rear and front sights. I've never been a fan of the std glock sights. Can you provide me some options for replacement? I'm looking for a 3 dot type system. It doesn't have to be night sights, but something of decent quality. Is $100
a good range to stay within?

Thanks
JP

Best girlfriend ever!

DestrianShade — Tue, 15 May 2012 23:18:02 GMT

As an early birthday/Christmas present, my fiancee got me a Sig Sauer P220! :D Im going tomorrow night after work to pick it up from my FFL dealer. Im super excited! I picked up some Federal 230 gr HST hollowpoints for it. I'll post pics as soon as I can if anyone is interested.

On a side note, she also got herself a Ruger SR22 that I have to pick up too. :rolleyes: lol

Pistol Case Storage

ditchdigger62 — Tue, 15 May 2012 05:28:15 GMT

I've accumulated a number of pistols over the years and am up to my ears in manufacturers' pistol cases. I don't think I should throw them away but they are overflowing out of my closet. What do you do with them? Can they be stored in the garage or attic? My inclination is "no" because the foam would soak up moisture (I live in a humid southern state). Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks.

Wife's new purchase!

richeyo2 — Tue, 15 May 2012 02:58:01 GMT

My just picked her up a Taurus PT-22. She has a thing for .22's I think she has about six now! She liked the way it looked according to her & that is was different. I just hope it shoots alright, we never have owned a Taurus before but have heard some horror stories, so my fingers are crossed.

Here are a few picks, she's happy & proud which make me happy as well.

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Just purchased a very ugly gun ... (man I could punch myself for selling my xdm)

Minkman555 — Mon, 14 May 2012 21:55:40 GMT

Some may have read my other thread on here. I wanted to get my fianc� a ring , so I made the worst decision in my life to sell my XDm 45c , and LCR -- so I can get ONE decent gun .. And a nice ring for my (then fianc�). I sold my two favorite guns and figured I'd grab a S&W Shield. Got it , and then see a FB picture that abruptly ended the engagement.

I sold my XDm for $550 , I had paid $690+ tax , and and had James install TFO's , I had a leather iwb.... So I took a huge loss. I also lost around $100 on the LCR.

I hadn't fired the Shield , but put TFO's on it....

After going back and forth with myself -- and going with my gut , I sold the Shield. I took a small loss , and whenever I have enough money saved up I will DEFINITELY purchase another one. The thing is -- I now live alone , and going from 13rd of .45 by my bed , and 5 rounds of .357 -- to 8 shots of .40 (for me) wasn't a good feeling despite how well the shield felt and the amazing size of it.

I don't have the $$ to replace my $700+ XDm , but I will not let a woman bring me all the way down. I decided I will put $50 worth of furniture on my WASR , and get the most I can out of a pistol in the $500 range.

So I bought this ugly , ugly , ugly Block 29 10mm. I no longer feel undergunned , and despite it being ugly -- I like the 10mm round , and feel this is the best platform for it. I deeply regret selling my XDm , it was perfect and IMO the best semi money can buy.

So now I have some change in the bank , and for $550 (what I paid for the shield + TFO's) here's what I got. (tapco handguard , new red/green dot and g29)

Tried to join blocktalk forums but I guess they make you wait a year of so for "approval".

Notes : The Glock (for me) was a pain in the ass to strip. My big nail less fingers pushing the takedown "buttons" on each side down hurt like hell. And on top of that -- when I reassembled the gun I pulled the slide back and everything got "stuck". I took it to the LGS and after a laugh it was "fixed" in 3 seconds. I apparently aligned the guide rod and recoil spring wrong.

Any tips for field stripping to avoid the issue I had this morning ? And any mods I should look at ? I'm thinking TFO's is first next month -- but I don't know anything about glocks , and their forum won't "approve" me for weeks (what I hear).

And I'm doing well -- and going to find another woman who can fulfill my life , and not looking back.

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CZ 2075 Rami 9mm

jreXD9 — Mon, 14 May 2012 14:23:55 GMT

After approx 400 rds (50 hp's) I'm comfortable enough to carry my new piece....the CZ 2075 Rami 9mm in alloy. After acquiring a CZ Compact 75 a couple months ago and being EXTREMELY pleased with it, I did the unthinkable and sold my XDM 45 Compact 3.8 and bought the Rami. I also took ammo costs into consideration. 24oz empty, a slide an inch shorter than the slide on my MP9c and very concealable and drop dead sexy like most CZ's. It's a 2 finger grip gun as is and perceived recoil is less than larger and heavier 9mm's I've had.
I know folks like a pic or two and I'll be glad to send some to an email addy if someone wants to post em for me.....thx.

92FS Guide Rod & Spring replacement question

jtelli71 — Mon, 14 May 2012 13:02:02 GMT

HI All. I ordered from Brownells the steel guide rod and std weight spring both Wolf Products and put them into my 92FS this weekend. The spring was a bit longer than the spring that came with the gun. Is that normal? I got it in with just a bit more effort. If this isn't normal, I'll take it out and put the stock spring back in. I haven't had a chance to shot the gun snce I replaced the rod/spring.

Advise and thanks.
JP

Bought a new toy!

Scottytuned — Sat, 12 May 2012 23:33:56 GMT

Went to Cabelas and picked up a gun that hadn't reflected the new price change since it went up. Picked up a Beretta Neos U22. So far it is a great plinking pistol that is a hell of a lot cheaper to shoot than the XD45 I have. I am debating picking up the carbine kit to go with it, but not sure yet. I've put about 250 rounds through it with no FTE or FTF. Has anyone gotten the carbine kit for it or know of it? :)

M&P 22 - Fun, more fun, and inexpensive

madpear — Sat, 12 May 2012 06:03:35 GMT

My M&P 22 arrived on 5/9 and that night I gave it a good ole cleaning in preparation for today, range day. I got as much of the factory preservative off as I could possible get with my swabs, cloths, and brushes. I am the owner of a full-size M&P 9 so I was looking forward to the relatively same size .22lr platform.

My initial impression was that the weapon felt solid. The frame felt as if it were the standard full-size M&P with the large hand-grip attached which was a positive to me personally. The M&P 22 does not have interchangeable backstraps so for it to come with a large hand-grip was the best possible option for me. The aluminum slide is much lighter than its steel counterpart on the full-size models and naturally the recoil spring has less tension to compensate for the .22 round. However, the firearm cycled perfectly, felt and sounded like a well-made instrument.

Out at the range today I brought along 1100 rounds of .22lr ammo from three different manufacturers, but only had the energy to expend 500 rounds. Need more magazines!

Federal Bulk Pack - 36 grain Copper-plated Hollow-Point
Winchester Dynapointe - 40 grain Copper-plated
CCI Mini Mags - 40 grain

I started out with the CCI Mini Mags and put 100 rounds through the pistol downrange at a 3 yard target. I experienced 0 malfunctions, FTFs, FTEs etc. The weapon performed flawlessly. I have fired numerous target 22s prior to this and was always somewhat "undertained" by them; never could get too excited about them. However, the M&P 22 performed very similar to larger caliber models. I personally felt more in the frame of mind that I was using a combat pistol and not just a dinky target 22. The pistol actually responded with a bit of recoil and muzzle flip adding to the excitement.

Following that I set it the target out to 7 yards, switched up ammo to the Winchester Dynapointes and decided to point-shoot from a tactical/close ready position in 2 shot sequences. Doing this I put roughly 200 rounds downrange...again with 0 problems from both the pistol and the ammo.

Lastly I set the target out to 25 yards and decided to check accuracy. I switched to my Federal Bulk Pack - 36 grain HPs and personally got pretty good results. After 200 rounds I experienced only 2 failure to feeds (not sure of the reason).

After 500 rounds and only 2 failure to feeds I consider this to be a perfect addition to a gun safe or collection. Its a reliable, accurate, enjoyable and most importantly (for me) cheap to shoot. I felt no guilt after today's range visit. I spent a fraction of what it would have cost me to shoot larger calibers. I feel my money was well spent, and I'm glad to add this to my quickly growing firearm collection and addiction.

I was not bothered by the clumsy ambidextrous safety. I may remove it in the future for appearances only. I could do without it. The only thing that brought some concern to me was the trigger reset early on in the break-in period. For the about the first 75-100 rounds the trigger reset felt slow and gritty. It came around to a normal reset following the initial 100 round break-in and I attribute that to the shipping preservative working its way out of the trigger area. You'll see visible of the preservative in the photos below.

Following the range I brought it home and decided to take some photos. Didn't clean it; wanted to display its proud breaking-in appearance. Hope this helps some of you if you're thinking about plunging into a combact/tactical .22 pistol. Oh yea...my Ruger SR22 is on the way...will probably do a comparison once it comes in.

LCP Lasermax holster

SWEXLER — Fri, 11 May 2012 23:15:10 GMT

Any suggestions front pocket carry, pockets kinda loose
Have one which works in some pants but not shorts which
Have larger and looser pockets.
Thanks for your advice, just got cwp today in the mail finally

Chrome plated?

Tabor — Fri, 11 May 2012 00:41:39 GMT

I was just wondering if anyone else has the same thoughts as I do in that where I live if you have a chrome handgun I think of it as a paperweight piece of $###, and he must be from the hood toting a saturday night special. No pun intended here to anyone.

FNP9: Underrated

SonOfOdin — Thu, 10 May 2012 23:31:02 GMT

A lightly used FNP9 has been setting at the range now for a few months. I strongly suspect is is the same firearm that was brand new earlier this year. I have wanted and FNH FNP9 for awhile.

I could not take it calling my name any longer. $399 with three magazines. Also came with spare back strap. Barely had time left to shoot before they closed, but I fired all three magazines with PMC bronze 115 grain. No problems. Only got to fire 5 rounds of 147grain Golden Sabers, but it had no issue. On top of it this gun was FUNKY. Took me HOURS to clean out the carbon build up. If it ran that well being funky as all get out and hosed down with rem-oil, I would say it is reliable.

What an underrated pistol. It reliably dry fed all three mags when loaded with golden sabers while manually cycled. Very smooth. This model has the decocker and is all black, though maybe in the future some duracoat will grace the frame and slide. Charging camera for pics later tonight. Target was rushed, so forgive my poor shooting.

On a side note, my M&P9c ran several boxes of PMC flawless and very accurately. Found a galco summer comfort holster on Amazon and it was the only right hand, black model in stock. Should have it Saturday.

For those who do not know, I was a SAW gunner in Iraq and my particular SAW was an FN. It NEVER let me down.

Greetings! And looking for some opinions.

remond — Thu, 10 May 2012 20:00:47 GMT

Well first post, so greetings XDtalk forum!

I'm just going to jump right in to things.

I am in the market for a 9mm that will be a bit of an all-around pistol; mostly because I don't see the point in buying a gun that is only really good for one thing.

That means range, possibly ccw, home defense and so on.

I already have a lovely Kimber Custom TLE II, so I 'm not interested in another .45...for the moment.

What I'm really looking for is a good double-stack 9mm that will fit my above criteria. So, naturally, that means I'm looking for a mid-sized 9.

Glocks are pretty much out because I don't like them. If I stumbled upon a new one that was under 400 I might consider it, but that's a pretty firm /might/.

I'm a little wary of the XD-M because of where they are manufactured. It has nothing to do with 'region stability' as has been quoted in a stickied thread, but rather that when I think of solid manufacturing states.....well, Croatia isn't really up there. If they were manufactured in Ukraine I'd think differently, but well, that's another topic.

I'm 6'2" and a fit 185, so I have pretty good options when it comes to concealing (if I choose to).

So, that leaves my options pretty wide open, but a little -too- open.

Here's a list of a few pistols I'm looking at:

Sig sp2022

Sig 229

XD-M 3.8 (I'm wary of them, but I haven't written them off entirely)

Walther PP90 AS

HK P3000

S&W M&P (Maybe....)

And there might be more I can't think of at the moment. The price range here is pretty wide: 400-700.

My main question is: Are the higher cost pistols listed REALLY worth the extra ~300?

As I understand it the only real difference between polymer and metal frames is overall weight and cost per unit. I haven't been able to find any info on whether or not polymer frames will wear down any quicker than a metal frame.

For example: Is the overall performance and durability of a 229 going to be $300 better than a sp2022?

I have read in a lot of different reviews that the 2022 has the best trigger Sig offers, but that the 229 handles better.

Needless to say the reviews and my personal experience are conflicting.

I have been able to handle and fire all but the Walther and the S&W. Unfortunately I wasn't able to fire each pistol enough to get a proper feel for them and I didn't fire them side-by-side.

Sum up:

I have done a lot of research, I have actually handled and shot most of the guns listed. The research offers conflicting views of each pistol (shocking, I know), so I figured I'd write all this out and just ask.

If anyone can offer any solid advice you will have my gratitude. And possibly some cookies if you live in near West Palm

Beretta M70 in 22lr..

vikz — Thu, 10 May 2012 00:36:53 GMT

Hello folks! here is one of my favorite piece to ccw! Beretta M70 in 22lr, not sure if I already posted long time ago but here it is again..and yes I am confident with this pistol even though its only a "22"..accurate,reliable ,feels good in my hand just plain awesome!

Wife Almost Killed by Taurus Millennium PT 140

p1935 — Tue, 08 May 2012 19:47:56 GMT

I almost lost my wife in 2009 when a dropped Taurus Millennium PT140 discharged when it hit the floor. The bullet hit her in the stomach a little below and to the right of her naval, damaging her colon,small intestines, duodenum, and is still in her liver. She was in a coma and on life support for many days and continues to see her trauma surgeon on a regular basis. She is the second of three accidents where a Taurus Millennium went off when dropped. With a record like that, they are obviously not "drop safe" as they claim.

The specifics of her accident are explained in detail at taurusgunaccident.com. Please help me get the word out about this unsafe gun.

Alternative to the CZ75b

mrmercedes — Tue, 08 May 2012 17:47:05 GMT

I live in California and I can not find a CZ75 b anywhere. Everyone is having a hard time keeping them in. I even looked online and nothing.....Is there a California legal alternative that is close to the CZ? What about a clone??? I don't like the Browning by the way....

This will be my second firearm

Thanks

HK USP Does not like Hornady

Goat Roper — Tue, 08 May 2012 14:12:15 GMT

I just traded a guy for a very lightly used HK USP .45 Stainless Model. I like (love) the feel of this pistol and it shoots every form of ball ammo I throw at it with no problem. The problem starts when I start throwing in some of the new-school defense ammo. So far I have tried about every form of Hornady Hollow-Point (they are my favorite off the shelf ammo company) to no avail. It seems that the round is too long and engages the rifling. It feeds into the chamber fine (usually) but it will not extract before firing, and definately not after firing, has anyone else had a problem like this? It's just a bummer to have such a sweet pistol but to be limited on what ammo I can feed it. I like my XD45T a lot better so far, it eats anything and asks for more.

Sig P238 Mag Deal

willow — Tue, 08 May 2012 12:27:00 GMT

Got a email from Sig today saying they have a deal on magazines for the P238. 3 for $99. I don't own a P238, but figured someone on here might and would like this deal.

Pt145

Barcochris — Tue, 08 May 2012 04:41:37 GMT

So my wife fell in love with this handgun..only issue is she wants some of it painted. One thing she wants painted is the trigger. I got the duracoat to paint it only problem is I don't know how the hell to get the trigger out. Any help would be great!

Ruger SR22 or 22/45 target pistol?

dethzero — Mon, 07 May 2012 22:03:56 GMT

im thinking i am going to get a .22 pistol to plink around with.wanting to know if anyone has either of theses guns.i like them both just tryinng to figure out which one i like.i like the old German style of the 22/45 but i heard the SR22 are an awsome gun but hard to find extra mags and stuff.any info would help.planning on picking one up in the next couple weeks.

.22 target pistols

wyodeseertrat — Sun, 06 May 2012 15:32:32 GMT

So does anybody have any imput on which .22 target pistol i should get. I would prefer one that i can easily put a red dot on.

Glockworx 2# Connector + comp spring kit!!

Mercmar — Sun, 06 May 2012 15:11:43 GMT

Just installed the Glockworx connector and competition spring kit in my G17. Trigger pull went from 4# to 2 3/8#. Feels great! Will do some range work today to see if I get light strikes. I'm using small rifle primers for my 9mm reloading.

So I bought a new toy!

YoopermikeXDM — Sun, 06 May 2012 14:41:51 GMT

Was at my buddies place ( also the lgs) when H showed me this baby.. ( random net photo)
Was love at 1st sight and I took it home :D now to add my red dot and go play!

what do you know about NAA Guardians?

PreacherRodgers — Sun, 06 May 2012 03:58:28 GMT

looking at a NAA to drop in the pocket. someone locally has one fof 325 with tritium sights. what do you think about the quality and function of this gun. thanks.

New Sig SP2022...

bunk22 — Sun, 06 May 2012 03:54:43 GMT

...next to my Sig P226 Navy. I did sell my XD9sc :shock: which I thought I wouldn't do but just wanted something different. Saw it at Academy for $390 so I bought it. I've shot my buddies and of course my 226 is awesome, flawless from day one. Can't wait to shoot it tomorrow, I've got 200 rounds of 115gr hanging around.

PPQ - Solid engineering

madpear — Sat, 05 May 2012 23:46:01 GMT

What a piece of engineering! I own a M&P Shield, M&P 9 fullsize, Glock 36, and have fired both XDs and XDMs but none of these are in the same class as Walther's PPQ. The trigger is phenomenally friendly to the shooter and allows for extreme user accuracy.

My first experience with the PPQ, yesterday 5/04, had me knowing I made the right purchase. I've read numerous accounts of increased muzzle flip but for me personally there was nothing concerning about it...hell its a handgun.

I have nothing I can personally bash about the PPQ. No complaints here...Walther has another happy customer!

Took some pics after cleaning and I've got my range targets up:

7 yds:

15 yds:

25 yds:

Heres a couple pics of my shield next to PPQ for size comparison:

Got Shield .40

Minkman555 — Sat, 05 May 2012 22:58:19 GMT

Got the first one my LGS had. But figures I got a conditional :roll: idk why that happens randomly with me , so I'll post pics when I pick it up Thursday ( or sooner if they call which they will ).

Loose front sight LC9

OKcherokee — Sat, 05 May 2012 20:24:52 GMT

Friend of mine has an LC9. Last time we were shooting it I noticed my groupings were off to the right about two inches at 25 feet. Looked at the sights and sure enough, the front one had shifted way to the left. It isn't so loose that you can move it with your hand, but with some minor persuasion it can be drifted left and right. Not really sure what is causing it to move in the first place. Maybe from shooting, I don't know.

Anyone else had this problem?
Is there an easy remedy to tighten it up a bit to keep it from drifting?

My first S&W

wyodeseertrat — Sat, 05 May 2012 19:59:56 GMT

Today i went to my favorite local gun shop and after about an hour of lookin at the hand guns, browsing and chatting with the owners. i started to fondle the M&P40s&wC which felt really nice. It felt like it had a light and short trigger pull. It felt good in my hands even with out the extended mag. But i didnt buy it since it didnt come with the every thing the full size does. Instead I bought the full size M&P 40s&w. For just $40 more it came withthe blade tech holster, 2 extra 15 round magizines, a open top double mag pouch and a speed loader.
My questions to people that own this gun are as follows-whats the best night sights for it and is a crimson trace grip worth the price tag?

Ok, so which Apex kit do I want?

Kaboom — Sat, 05 May 2012 05:44:42 GMT

I have a full size M&P-45 with the thumb safety and want to install one of the Apex kits, looking for a nice trigger hopefully approaching my 1911 or CZ-75SP01. The Thumb safety negates a need for a stiff trigger pull. There seem to be several kits, which one do I want/need?

Hmmmmm. Might be having second thoughts. The PPQ???

3shot — Sat, 05 May 2012 01:43:15 GMT

Well, It goes like this, I called a local dealer looking for the M&P Shield. They had two. When I got there, they were gone!! I'm getting used to this routine :evil:. So I shopped the glass counter as I always do, And saw the PPQ. Asked to handle it and........... Where did this come from????? This gun just melted into my hands and OMG the trigger!!!!! I think I found my new firearm. Just $600, OUCH. Going to sleep on it a few days and see.
Dunno dudes! Shield who? XDs what? Might have to be the PPQ :oops:.
It sure would good along side my P38 :cool:

Sig P250

BMB — Fri, 04 May 2012 19:04:05 GMT

I'm considering buying one of these for the versatility as a kick around gun and to have a few different frames for.....saw positive reviews on it for the most part. I know the trigger will be a far stretch from the XD and glocks that I own, but still it seemed prett smooth, with a good break.

Anything you guy's that own one want to pass on? Good and bad?

I understand holsters and accessories are limited but I can bend kydex, so that's not too much of an issue.

New FNP 45 and FiveseveN

shatnerglass — Fri, 04 May 2012 15:18:57 GMT

I was at the LGS yesterday and couldn't pass these up. Each were ~150 less than MSRP

Stopped by the range on the way home. I have 500 rds of 5.7 on the way, so I didn't feel like purchasing more and only got to shoot the FNP. Damn fine weapon! Very accurate and easy to shoot. And a lot of fun.

I have a Trijicon RMR ordered for the FNP. It's not a 'Tacticle', but still has the mounting plate for an optic.

P238 vs 9mm Shield?

jeichstadt — Fri, 04 May 2012 04:22:57 GMT

Please help... I am on the verge of trading in my Taurus pt709 slim. Like the guns size, hate the trigger pull. Problem is I can't decide if I want to get the Sig P238 or the new S&W sheild 9mm. Has anyone shot and or carried the both of them? I like the look of the sig better but for the extra $200 i just can't make up my mind. Any thoughts appreciated. Thanks.

Talk me into/out of this, 96 inox for security six.

Deer Slayer — Fri, 04 May 2012 00:30:30 GMT

My friend that sold me my security six (4" blued 357) wants it back. I love it, my only wheel gun, made the year I was born. He didn't really want to sell it, but he needed cash. I told him if I got rid of it, he'd have the first shot at it.

He's offering a full size Beretta 96 inox (.40 cal) stainless as a straight up trade. If it's like the rest of his gun collection, it's as close to perfect as used guns get. I know the Beretta is worth more, about $500?

I said I'd think about it. So, talk me into, or out of this deal.

My Sheild/LC9 Report!

richeyo2 — Thu, 03 May 2012 23:58:43 GMT

Well I finally got a chance to take my Sheild out to the range today & shoot it. All I can say it's awesome, I put 100rds. through the gun & absolutely love it. Great trigger & I was happy w/my accuracy right out of the box.

I wanted to shoot it & compare it to my wife's LC9 which I've been having trouble getting use to the trigger (I had only put about 50rds myself through her LC9 not including today) which she likes. I started out shooting both guns at 15' then moved back to 20' w/the Sheild only. This is the first two targets I shot today & the first time shooting the Sheild out of the box.

Unfortunately wife didn't get to go today to compare the two guns side by side, but I will post her thoughts as well when we hit the range together. I think she's going to like the Sheild better, but we will see!

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Good day at the range

agould27 — Thu, 03 May 2012 20:34:12 GMT

Took the G19 and the Pf9 to the range today with one of my friends. I had a great day shooting at 5,7, and 10 yds. Mostly dead center with two flyers to the left. The three flyers up top were with my friends pf9, his sights were moved well to the right and I'm pretty sure he needs to get the shim kit for it. Shooting high right, He shot my pf9 and my glock and was getting good hits. The G19 is still ejecting sporadically hitting me in the face, top of the head, and inbetween my arms. It was not as bad today as has been though.

Ordered my first handgun--Gen 4 G17

AirForceAce357 — Thu, 03 May 2012 18:16:50 GMT

Finally, after 3 years of delays due to financial difficulties and constant moving, I'm finally getting my first handgun, a Gen 4 G17! I wasn't a fan of Gen 3 Glocks because the grip was too big & the mag release was useless to me as lefty but I shot one of the Gen 4s at a range six months ago and fell in love with it. The grip is smaller and fits me well (I have medium size hands) and the mag release is reversible. I was going to get an XDM9 but they're running $75-90 more where I live and my budget won't stretch that far (plus the Glock accessories are super cheap and plentiful). Will still get a XDM at some point though.

I'm getting it through a friend of a coworker who has a FFL and runs a shop out of his garage on the side. He's giving it to me for cost, plus $25 to ship, sales tax, and $2 for background check so it's a pretty good deal.

Just wanted to gush a little here, as I'm super excited about finally having a handgun. The guy ordered it for me today and should have it early next week. I'll be sure to post pics and a range report once I have it, can't wait!:mrgreen:

should I do it?

jreXD9 — Thu, 03 May 2012 03:50:35 GMT

I am considering trading my xdm 45 compact 3.8 and all S'field gear for an MP9c, 3 mags (1 is 17 rd), Ameriglo night sights, RAM trigger job and DCAK?? trigger job, 2 holsters.
I'm not displeased with the xdm at all, but .45 ammo ain't cheap and when my oldest turns 21 I plan on giving her one of my guns and the MP9c is a fine weapon. I already have one MP9c that the wife carries. So, until my daughter's birthday in Sept I'd be carrying either the new MP9c or the CZ 75 Compact. This would also put all my guns in 9mm.
My trade value is approx $625 and his pistol plus the extras amount close to that.
Need clear opinions soon....this may happen by Friday.

Need a 1911 barrel. suggestions?

Vhyrus — Wed, 02 May 2012 19:34:30 GMT

A friend of mine has a 1911 with a shot out barrel he wants to replace. Any suggestions? He wants something match grade but doesn't want to break the bank. He didn't give me a number but ill assume less than 300.

S&W M&P Shield - POV From A Former Kahr Guy Holding Out For An XDs

Thunder71 — Wed, 02 May 2012 18:57:45 GMT

Or at least 'was' holding out for an XDs.

Like everyone else, the M&P Shield hit me by surprise - I had never heard of the gun before and all of a sudden it was all over the forums one day, I had thought I missed something from months ago.

I called my local gun shop on a whim and they had just received 2 of them that morning, I said I'd be right there and showed up about 15 minutes later to check it out. My initial thoughts when seeing it were very positive, it's a great looking firearm - but then I held it. The gun had the extended magazine in it and it felt thin, and didn't feel 'right'. I wanted to like it, so I tried the trigger and that impressed me, very solid and clear 'click' to it.

But that grip... ack.

I left the shop empty handed and for the next week kept reading thread after thread about the Shield, started watching videos on it and just couldn't understand the hype... in fact this morning I almost started a thread titled 'Am I the only one that doesn't care for the Shield?'

Well, that was this morning...

at lunch time I decided to give it one more look, so I called to see if they still had one and to my surprise they did have one left. Again, I said I'd be right there to take a look at it and showed up 15 minutes later. Initial impressions were the same, but then I asked to see the flush magazine so it would compare closer to my Kahr's that I was used to (PM9 and MK9).

He grabbed the magazine out of the box and handed it to me, immediately I started feeling better about this gun - it looked stealthy, and like a thin XD at this point, which is what I wanted since my main gun is an XDM 3.8 Compact in 9mm.

Then I held it, and bam... that was it. The gun mated to my hand better, or at least more to what I had grown used to - for some reason the extra length of the grip threw me off as I had become accustomed to having my pinky hanging off the grip a little. It still felt thinner than my Kahr's but I was OK with it now.

I checked all the functions, took it down, put it together, used the safety, etc (I'm a lefty BTW) and said 'box it up please'.

I knew right then that this would have to be an extended lunch, so I went home and cleaned/lubed it then took it to the range for some shooting... 100 rounds of Winchester white box followed by a mixed box of 98 JHP HD ammo (mostly Winchester PDX in 124 and 147 grain, some +P).

I really enjoyed shooting it, not one hiccup whatsoever. Unlike my PM9 it fed reliably by hand racking every time and the magazines fit very well and dropped free. The sights are great, but more importantly I found that the Shield was good for me at point shooting as well, the gun is definitely more accurate than its owner, but I'll be happy to work on that at the range because this gun is my new carry piece after today.

I'm so glad I didn't start that thread this morning and gave it another shot. I'm still hopeful for the XDs, but this M&P Shield has filled my needs completely.

M&P Shield by N0YZE Photo, on Flickr

M&P Shield by N0YZE Photo, on Flickr

Just picked up a S&W M&P Shield

eternity059 — Wed, 02 May 2012 00:35:52 GMT

I was lucky enough to find a Shield on Vaguntraders from a member that has issues with the grip. Only 31 rounds fired though the gun before I purchased it.

I bought it for my Fiance's conceal gun. Plan to shoot it at the range tomorrow with a friend. My fiance will shoot it monday when she comes back from a business trip.

Here's what she looks like with my PPQ

Where are the SHIELDS??!!

Steak — Tue, 01 May 2012 14:07:49 GMT

OK, going on 2 weeks now with no luck. I have called 5 local gun shops, 2 Gander Mountains and 1 Bass Pro Shop. Several shops have given different answers whne I have called back.

The answers;

1. Sorry the 2 we had sold

2. Not sure when the next shipment is coming in

3. We won't have any until August (Bass Pro)

4. You can add your name to the list. I have 10 names right now

5. Just keep checking back everyday

6. You can leave a deposit and when one comes in its yours (might do this but was told; no idea when we are getting anymore)

7. As soon as we get them in they all sell. So its kind of the luck of the draw to be here when the truck comes in.

8. Yeah I like that gun. I wish we could keep them in stock.

9. We ordered 20 but only received 2 and they've been gone a while

I am a very inpatient person and am getting more inpatient by the day. What's the damn problem? :evil:

How did you guys that have posted here end up with yours? Deposit, waiting list, lucky, know someone on the "inside"?

I sold my LC9 and I have the burning desire(and emprty space) that needs to be filled ASAP! :mrgreen:

Glock 17 Gen 4 thoughts and problems (yes w/pics)

Mr. YACYAS — Tue, 01 May 2012 01:08:26 GMT

About a month ago I took the plunge and bought a Glock 17 Gen 4. I will start with that the main reason I never bought a Glock before, I simply could not stand the grip of the previous generations. That is what lead me to the the Springfield XD series. Well a few months ago my current career path lead me to take the Glock Armorer's course which I kinda felt like it was stupid to have this certification and not have a Glock for myself (any excuse right? lol).

So I bought the Glock about a month ago and really like the pistol. It easily has the least amount of recoil over any of the polymer pistols out right now. Really love the new grip on the Glock, it feels MUCH better. Still wish they get rid of the hump though...

So here's my problem with it. Recently I went though a Trident Concepts course (which was a blast BTW learned SOOOOOO much) and it had half a dozen failures during the class. The malfunctions were failure to feeds and I'd like some ideas on why they occurred. Once the malfunction was back to back, the gun was oiled routinely throughout the class with slip 2000. Though it was not cleaned once before or during the class (shouldn't matter).

Heres some pics of the gun and with a mock representation of the repeated malfunction with snap caps.

Walther PPQ or Glock 17/19

GJJT — Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:52:46 GMT

I'm thinking about buying a 9mm, and I was wondering what everyone thought about the Walther PPQ vs. Glock 17/19. I've shot just about every Glock, and I don't shoot them very well, and I've heard good things about the Walther. I love my XDM, but I want to branch out.

Shoulder Problems

Mr_B — Mon, 30 Apr 2012 04:49:26 GMT

My dad two bad shoulder injuries from wakeboarding a fewyears ago. He�s had surgery three years ago however he is still pretty weak. Heloves to go shooting with me but has a really hard time holding the gun up andout for any longer than one or two mags through my xd9. If he�s having a goodday he can put a few rounds through my 12 gauge and maybe one or two through my.243. It�s not so much the recoil that causes him problems but the weight ofthe weapon.

I am telling you this so that you can hopefully get an ideaof his limitations. I would really like to buy him his own gun someday, howeverI am struggling to figure out what to get him based on his limitations. Wemostly got out to BLM land and shoot clays and paper targets with friends andfamily.

My initial ideas: Youth semi-auto 12 Gauge, 10/22 syntheticwith aluminum barrel

If you have any advice or ideas on what to get him I am openears.

Got my M&P Sheild!!!

richeyo2 — Mon, 30 Apr 2012 01:57:08 GMT

Well I was waiting outside Sportsmans this morning when they opened. Recieved an inside tip that they were getting a shipment today. After waiting about an 1-1/2hr for them to check in the truck, I got my Sheild! The guy said they ordered 20 & recieved 2. I did not get a chance to go & shoot it today which stinks, becaused I promised the wife I'd do some work in the flower beds after I got back. Hopefully tomorrow I will get a chance to go to the range & try her out. I took a couple of pics & tried to take a few comparing it to my wife's LC9. I'm excited to get my hands on the Sheild & hope she shoots as good as she looks!

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CZ75 SP01 Tactical vs Phanton vs P07 Duty??? Hard to choose..

jtelli71 — Sun, 29 Apr 2012 21:41:09 GMT

OK, so I want a new pistol. Been wanting a CZ for awhile and I've been reviewing the: CZ75 SP01 Tactical .40 cal, Phantom 9mm and P07 Duty 9mm/.40 cal. Whether it's a 9mm or .40 doesn't matter, I like both calibers. I've been thinking that the SP01 Tactical with Steel slide and frame will soak up the .40 cal snappiness quite well, but I also like the idea of the Phantom in 9mm and the P07 Duty in either caliber. Cost differeces between these guns isn't an issue for me. I don't know if the Polymar versions of the CZ are of godd quality? I'm not knocking them, because I think they make kick ass pistols and I've only shot their steel framed guns. If anyone has any of these models please chime in.. Thanks.
JP

Question on Jiminez 38o

jeremy9mmXDm — Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:14:20 GMT

i have two of these lil cheap guns and in the manual it says to never shoot hallow points through it. Now i never have nor do i plan on it but i was just curious as to why? Is this do to the pressure or is it a feeding problem? can anybody clear this up for me? thanks

New P30 Today

The Epidemic — Sun, 29 Apr 2012 04:08:58 GMT

Picked up a brand new P30 today. Last day of work at the LGS and i decided i needed a graduation present. Have been eyeing this gun for awhile and thought i would finally take the plunge. Love it pictures to follow.

Shield Review-Hickok45

Steak — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:51:23 GMT

Well if you've been posting lately and reading this forum you know my recent story so I will not bore you with the details. I have read several reviews by posters here about the new shiled and am very excited about getting one........if I can find a damn store that doesnt sell out as soon as they unload them from the truck!

Anyways, great review as always by Hickok45. I am very excited he compared it to a LC9 due to the fact I sold mine last night. I was nervous about losing the nice very concealable size of the LC9 and wasn't sure how much larger the shield was. After seeing this I feel great!:mrgreen:

You Tube

m&p 22

win — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 02:37:34 GMT

what do you guys think of the m&p 22 pistol? I have watch some videos on it. I must say its on my short list.
whats your thoughts?

M&P, We Shall See!

SonOfOdin — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:53:21 GMT

Well guys, I traded in my 6906 and used the proceeds to get a S&W M&P9c. I almost bought another XD, but the price was right and the gun was in very good shape. It came with 2 magazines, 1 with the pinky rest and the other without. This gun looks like it was hardly shot. I keep hearing good things about the M&P and wanted one to test out. If it works good, I think it will make a good back up gun for my system or even possibly another option for a primary.

I suppose I might have originally been wrong about the M&P series. I did not like them, but I never actually picked one up and fooled around with it. When I did, my opinion changed real quick. As soon as the missus gets home we will be off to the range to shoot this thing. I got 200 rounds of PMC bronze and a cheap box of WWB hollowpoints for testing purposes. I will save some of the targets to bring home and take pictures with the handgun. I would take pictures of me shooting it at the range, or even a video...but I would feel like a doofus.

Sig Pro SP2022 9mm, my review

SlowShooter — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:24:45 GMT

I just bought this a few weeks ago and I like it.
Its an affordable Sig, and a Sig that fits small hands (the P226 felt too big for me).

I know there's been a little bit of discussion about it already, so I know I'm late to the party... but anyway here's my take on it:

Sig Pro SP-2022 sp2022 9mm Detailed Review - YouTube

(Long video, but a detailed table-of-contents in description so you can find the info you want)

CDNN catalog has these on sale for a good price right-now, from what I hear they are a European contract over-run.

Edit: add table of contents for video

Quote:

Table of contents:
0:20 introduction and general information
1:20 Size, A bit smaller than most "full size", larger than most "compact" pistols.
2:00 Polymer frame, but trigger,controls, and magazine are metal. Replaceable grip inserts.
2:43 Grip textured
3:10 Comparison to Sig P226 (old classic style)
3:52 comparison to Sig P226 E2 SRT (new Enhanced Ergonomics slim grips, Short Reset Trigger). Still wasn't small enough to fit my hand, which is why I went with the SP2022.
4:42 Comparison of size/grip to S&W M&P 9mm
5:10 Accessories: finding Holsters. Holster options are limited. Fobus didn't work, but Blackhawk Serpa fit good. Similar holster fit to Springfield XD ?
6:45 Magazines. 9mm holds 15 rounds, 40-cal holds 12 (if not restricted by law). They can be expensive. Some aftermarket options, or buy Sig Pro magazines. Search around for best price, price varies from $35 to $50.
8:05 Notice the difference in front accessory rail bettween SP2009 vs SP2022. Slim Proprietary rail vs standard Picatinny rail, could interfere with some holster fit.
8:50 Trigger. Single action, Double action. Showing the trigger reset. Must pull trigger all the way to the rear, it breaks very far back.
10:35 Decocker
10:45 Slide-to-barrel fit, very good.
11:50 Ammunition tested and reliability
12:12 Thumb placement problems, interference with the large slide-stop lever.
13:07 Sight picture, I like a 6-o'clock hold. To me, this pistol seems to hit low. Sight options for different heights.
14:25 Short grip with large magazine baseplate, possible pinch-point when changing magazines.
15:11 Price is very affordable. Much less than a Sig P226.
15:40 Not claiming to be a "competition" pistol. Side-by-side size comparison to M&P 9mm, sight-radius. But don't let that stop you, accuracy is still good.
16:35 Is this a good option for you? what will you use it for?
16:58 Striker-fired vs Double-action/Single-action
17:24 Accessory rail for light/laser
17:45 Side-topic: double action / single action, decocker vs hammer-drop safety differences. Sig's decocker design vs other Slide-mounted safety lever designs.
19:28 Conclusion and wrap-up
19:56 Pictures of internal components
20:39 End.

1911 22lr which one? Sig Sauer

win — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 00:45:13 GMT

My brother n law is really wanting a browning 1911 22. But wow they are pricey. What do you think of the sig sauer 1911 22? They look good in the picture, but I have never held one.
thanks for your input

2nd Glock purchase!

richeyo2 — Wed, 25 Apr 2012 23:23:35 GMT

I purchased my 2nd Glock, a G22 Gen 4. I also picked up a Lonewolf 9mm conversion barrell to go along with it. I've only had a chance to run 50rds down range so far & I like it. I will say it seems to have more muzzle flip than my XDM 3.8 .40 which seemed odd to me being a larger pistol. I have not shot it w/9mm conversion yet, hope to get back out to the range in a couple of days.

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Should I do it?

Steak — Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:41:29 GMT

If any of you have read my posts yopu kniow the issues Ive had with my Ruger LC9.

I found a local shop that has 3 M&P shileds in stock right now. He said they are selling for $439. Could possibly get $200 for my Ruger on a trade. It has 100 rounds through it and I paid $349 back in February.

Just want to get some opinions if I should do this or not. :confused:

Is the Five-seveN the new Trophy gun?

Excalibur01 — Wed, 25 Apr 2012 03:56:16 GMT

At my local gun store which is on the edge of Gary, IN, it seems like the Five-seveN appears to be the new "trophy gun" for a lot of the people there. It used to be the Desert Eagle, but now there's a ton of new orders for the Five Seven. A cop buddy of mine was at the store recently and this lady was there to pick up one and her reasons for getting one was a bit suspect. And being a cop of that area, you can't help but make some assumptions based on the people. This lady obviously didn't know a damn thing about the gun she is getting and most likely is getting it for someone else who can't get it.

In the past, the Desert Eagle is just a shits and giggle's gun you're not going to take it to a gun fight. But a Five Seven is a combat pistol. Expensive, but much more effective than a Desert Eagle and this chick bought a ton of ammo with it on top of a few extra mags.

My Custom M&P Shield

ajamesp51 — Wed, 25 Apr 2012 01:23:20 GMT

Well I like this shield and I was wrong that the skinny grip would focus recoil. I made a couple mods today and made her my own. She now looks like a proper stainless slide, I installed some Truglo TFO`s on her and got rid of the stupid "will fire without magazine" warning on the slide. I ordered a Apex Trigger kit so the trigger will be even better by the weekend.

I Blasted the slide first then glass beaded it for a nice satin finish. The TFO sights are the regular TFO sights for the full size M&Ps. Since the Shield uses the same dovetail as its bigger brothers aftermarket sights are already available. The TFO is slightly wider than the slide so you have a slight overhang say 4/64ths of an inch not even noticeable. Impact did not seem to change and I have a combat sight picture which I prefer.

What do you think? I can make yours look good too.