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Remington Customer Service = A+

RAFFY — Sat, 25 May 2013 18:23:58 GMT

A few weeks back I bought a Remington 9mm UMC 250 round Mega Pack and inside the package I found an improperly produced cartridge. Basically the bullet itself was packed down to far causing the casing to expand. So I sent Remington's customer service an email and then they put in my touch with the ammo production plant in the US. After a couple emails they wanted to see the bullet to run analysis on it and see how it could of happened. So I sent in the bullet and then today I received a signed letter back from a gentleman named Bill Conrad and a 50 round box of 9mm. Overall awesome customer service and hell I would of been happy with a free Remington hat or sticker. Just thought I would share it with the rest of you incase you run in to a problem with any of their ammo. Remington came across as very enthusiastic in figuring out ammo manufacturing problems and overall customer satisfaction.

reloading data for 40 SW 165 gr

polishnightmare — Sat, 25 May 2013 16:37:32 GMT

I have had some feed issues with reloading 165gr 40 SW in another thread. From that discussion one of the things talked about was powder charge. I have 2 manuals a Speer and Lyman. I have pretty much used the Lyman. However while trying to figure out the feed issue I looked at the Speer book and notice something very different about the powder charges between the two. The Lyman says for Unique powder range is 5.4 to 6.0 gr. However my Speer book states 7.2 to 8.0 gr of Unique. How could there be such a huge difference between the two?

Load data for 200gr fmj fn...anybody use this?

fedmanshooter — Sat, 25 May 2013 10:46:47 GMT

I found some data for 200gr fmj on handloads.com. for 40sw. I have seen where a few people recommend power pistol for this bullet. The data for pp with this bullet has a start at 5.7 with suggested load of 6.3. and oal of 1.130.

Bullet pulling question?

fedmanshooter — Sat, 25 May 2013 01:45:35 GMT

I was loading 40cal. I noticed a change in the pressure it took to pull the handle down. I was watching everything as I made a few more. I found that the primer removal pin had somehow worked down and was hitting the shell plate not allowing the full function of the press. I had made 4 to 5 bullets. They bulge slightly at the case head and will not go into the case gauge. I plan on pulling them and have not pulled a complete bullet with powder and primer. For one, how dangerous is this? Is there anything I can do to make it a safer process.

Fiocchi 147gr JHP -- quality?

memo — Sat, 25 May 2013 00:23:42 GMT

Just picked 250 rounds up from SportsmansGuide at $0.40/rnd after shipping and taxes and whatnot. Not a bad grab, especially given the way ammo's been this month... but I'm curious to hear if other folks have used this round, and how they'd compare it to Winchester Ranger-T's or Federal Hydra-Shok's performance.

If it's any good for defensive carry, I'll probably load up my defensive mags with the stuff and shoot what I've already got for competitions and general practice...

What is your favorate load for XDs

191145 — Fri, 24 May 2013 09:57:24 GMT

What is your favorite reload for practice shooting your XDs.
I went to the range today for the first time and the pistol sht better with a stouter load. I had three loads. A Berry HBRN with 4.2 grains of Bullseye powder, Then I went to a Montana Gold FMJ with 4.5 grains and lastly I shot the Montana gold 230 grain with 4.9 grains of Bullseye and they shot the most accurate. I would post targets but I need to have 10 post before I am aloud to play. I was able to easily keep all of the 17 shots in a 3 inch group
Two 5 round magazines and one 7 round.

Reload 12ga Slugs?

ironmike1378 — Fri, 24 May 2013 04:03:23 GMT

I've searched and have found reloading for shotshell but not for slugs. Can you reload or selfload slugs? Also if you can is it worth it. I know shotshell is not unless you have specific needs or comp shoot.

The best 5.56 deal I have found yet

711 — Fri, 24 May 2013 01:33:28 GMT

Jump on it quick!!! :D

Ammo 5.56 NATO M855 American Quality Ammo FMJ 62 Grain 250 Round Box 3100 fps N55662VP250

Bullets available from RMR

bowenbuilt — Thu, 23 May 2013 23:25:08 GMT

Rocky Mountain Bullets have all 9mm, 40 and 45 bullets in stock. Decent prices excellant high quality bullets. I ordered 2 weeks ago and they arrived today.
Rocky Mountain Reloading

If you need some practice projectiles and cannot find them in stock anywhere give RMR a try. Very well made plated bullets!

The ammo gods blessed me today

zidave — Thu, 23 May 2013 21:03:28 GMT

Went by one of the two walmarts around here and took the obligatory stroll through the sporting goods department to laugh at their crummy ammo choice.
For the first time in six months they actually had more than hunting rounds and shotgun shells, had a few boxes of Tula 223 for $5.47 each and 10+ boxes of Tula 7.62x39 for $5.17.
Well obviously I had to grab a few for the AK so I asked the lady to grab the max limit out but she said she had some under the counter and that she would grab those for me.

I walk over to the counter with her and asked "so do you always have ammo 'under the counter'?" and she said "only when we have overstock."
I told her it was the first time in months that I've seen this ammo in stock at that location.
So she rings up my purchase and tells me the total is $5.64. I pause for a second but see that all 3 boxes are in the bag. So I swipe my card and pay the $5.64.
The receipt prints out and she looks at it as it's printing out then she handed it to me and all 3 boxes of ammo in a bag and tells me to have a nice day.

I don't feel bad for not speaking up, I gave her every opportunity to notice it herself but she never did.

Would you have said something?

Independence 5.56x45mm NATO available at Bass Pro Shop

kherbert4 — Thu, 23 May 2013 14:13:18 GMT

Independence 5.56x45mm NATO Centerfire Rifle Ammo | Bass Pro Shops

berry bullet reloading gun feed issue

polishnightmare — Thu, 23 May 2013 04:05:47 GMT

I have a XD 40 4" and I normally reload 165gr FMJ Montana Gold bullets (more round shape) and have no issue. I recently switched and got some 165gr plated Berrys bullets (more sloped shape). Every since I switched I have had feed issues with the Berrys. Not every time but on a random basis. I checked the cartridge length and mouth width and they the same the montana golds. I am using the same powder charge in the berrys cartridge as I was in the montana golds. I am also using the same mags with both types of bullets. Any idea of what could be the cause? I have shot thousands and thousands of rounds with no issue until now. This is including Winchester, Remington, blazer, gold dot, federal, montana gold, etc in rounded, rounded flat nose, and sloped flat nose bullet shapes. The only thing that I seen different was when the berry reloads where chambered there was a noticeable bullet set back occurring . If I chambered it there would be more, I don't seem to notice this on the Montana gold reloads. Could the bullet setback during chambering be causing the feed issue? I took some of the berry cartridges and increased the crimp on them until when chambered there was significant bullet setback.

Comments....

Comments.

bullet set back 40 gold dots

polishnightmare — Thu, 23 May 2013 03:46:08 GMT

How much set back on a round can you have before it becomes an issue. I have some 40 S&W155 gold dots. rounds measure 1.115", however I have one or two that are measuring 1.08 and 1.09". So they are 0.035" under. what have you seen in measurement and where they an issue? Comments.

Scale Comparison - Cheap Digital versus Vintage Ohaus 5-0-5

taylorjr — Thu, 23 May 2013 02:10:35 GMT

Hey everybody,

I'm just getting into reloading, and I am trying to find the best bang for the buck, and I want to focus on something that fredj advised me against, but I went for it anyways.

I bought a used "vintage" Ohaus 5-0-5 beam scale and a new Horizon PRO-50A digital scale. I bought both off eBay for around $40. Unboxing the Ohaus, I noticed it had been used by a serious reloader, but not abused. I cleaned it and used some all-purpose polish to shine it up.

Unboxing the Horizon scale, I was disappointed in my initial impressions. The foam was yellowed, and the included 50g "calibration weight" had come apart (not pictured, but I assume the metal plug was to get it to 50 grams exactly). Anyways, it came with 20 and 50 gram weights, tweezers, batteries, and an AC adapter. The measuring portion of the scale is no bigger than a silver dollar, and you'll see the iconic powder pan of the Ohaus on the scale later for reference.

And so begins my tests.

1. I leveled and zeroed the Ohaus scale.
2. I calibrated the Horizon scale according to manufacturer's instructions.
3. TEST 1: I weighed the 20 gram weight in grains on both scales. Results: BOTH PASS

Digital: 308.64 gr
Beam: 308.6 gr
Theoretical Value: 308.65 gr

4. I then used the powder pan from the Ohaus scale, and zeroed the digital scale for ease of measurement.

IMPORTANT: the digital scale read the powder pan as 146.08 gr prior to any measurement other than the 20 gram control. This means that when the pan was removed, the scale would read negative 146.08 gr.

5. TEST 2: I weighed powder into the powder pan, and measured it on the digital, then tested the beam scale to check the reading. Results:

Test 2a: Digital Reading: 6.12 gr Beam Reading: 6.10 gr PASS
Test 2b: Digital Reading: 20.42 gr Beam Reading: 20.40 gr PASS
Test 2c: Digital Reading: 69.80 gr Beam Reading: 69.80 gr PASS

Check Zero: Digital - PASS Beam - PASS (at this time I noted that the negative 146.08 gr had changed to negative 146.04 gr, I didn't think too much of it)

Test 2d: Digital Reading: 2.52 gr Beam Reading: 2.50 gr PASS
Test 2e: Digital Reading: 1.10 gr Beam Reading: 1.10 gr PASS

Check Zero:
Digital - PASS
Beam - PASS

(at this time, the negative 146.04 gr had changed to negative 145.98 gr, I knew I had a problem, but I had 2 more tests to confirm my suspicisions)

6. TEST 3: I weighed powder into the powder pan, and measured it on the beam scale, then tested the digital scale to check the reading. Results:

Test 3a: Beam Reading: 10.00 gr Digital Reading: 10.16 gr FAIL

At this point, further measuring tests were discontinued, and the final test remained.

7. TEST 4: I checked zero on both scales one final time. Results:

Beam Scale: PASS, no deviation
Digital Scale: FAIL, 0.10 gr deviation

Neither scale had been significantly moved or disturbed - there was no moving air (i.e. fans that could affect readings), the table was checked for level N-S, E-W, and NW-SE and passed all three times, and the powder pan had been cleaned completely of any remaining powder.

FINAL RESULTS:

Do not spend money on a cheap digital scale such as the Horizon PRO-50A.
Remember that the scale is your only indication of what charge you are actually putting through your firearm.
Used scales can be trusted if seen when bought (I looked over 4-5 pictures of the scale before I purchased)
Cheap deals can be had, but be careful of what you buy.
Listen to fred. ;)

I hope you found this review/comparison helpful.

Federal 45 Auto HST XDs Test

Ljutic — Thu, 23 May 2013 01:54:37 GMT

This was my carry load since getting my XDs. Looks like I'll have to step up to the +P or find something else in 200 or 185 grain. I guess it's better to know than not know.

Full Report:
Pocket Guns and Gear: Federal Premium 45 Auto 230 Grain HST - 6 Shot Terminal Test

Teaser Picture:

Video Link:

Federal 45 Auto 230 Grain HST - 6 Shot Terminal Test - YouTube

Thinking of loading this.... anyone know how accurate this is

fedmanshooter — Thu, 23 May 2013 01:45:34 GMT

I am starting 40sw loads. I have TG, W-231, WSF, Clays, PP, Unique, N 340, N 320. Im thinking of using W-231 with 180gr fmj fn, oal at 1.130 with a start load of 4.5. This has a book of 872fps with psi listed at 26,400. I will be shooting these out of a 5.25 XDm. I know this will increase the fps. Will this also increase the psi. I may try and load the oal out to 1.135. I also have some 200gr fmj fn I would also like to use for 40sw. Any success with the powders listed above?

Case life

Bananapuppy — Wed, 22 May 2013 19:29:16 GMT

I was just wondering how many reloads a 9mm case is generally good for? Any help/experience would be appreciated.

Little confused about reading load chart

UofHdevildog — Wed, 22 May 2013 14:18:37 GMT

I don't have WST info in my Lyman's manual so I went online to look on Hodgdon's site. They have a 230 grain .45 FMJ load listed using 4.9 grains but it's for a flat point round. I'm loading RN. Why don't they list a RN version? I guess I should just call before blowing up my hand.

Gun show ammo?

711 — Wed, 22 May 2013 01:59:56 GMT

Just wondering what kind of deals/experiences you guys have found at gun shows?

I hit one up a few months ago in Columbia, SC. Plentiful handgun ammo, .22lr was still outrageous ($60-80 per brick), but I did come away with a Georgia Arms can of 500 .223 rounds for $255 dollars. Still pretty high, but cheap compared to other scalpers, and it was the very first .223 I had found anywhere post-Newtown.

Columbia is having another gun show June 8th and now I'm in the mood for some bulk 9mm so I can buy another handgun. Here's to hoping for some good deals (and hopefully no buying limits).

I wish there was a way to check specific gun show inventories ahead of time instead of just showing up and hunting. The last show was survival of the fittest.

XDs .451 reload 230gn xtp, unique powder ?

natemx — Tue, 21 May 2013 19:39:52 GMT

Shooting from a XDs

I am new to reloading and I'm a little baffled by the 10 rounds I made and just shot.
230grn XTP, 5.5 grains unique. I had to put the OAL to 1.215 so that it would cycle properly in my XDs. Hornandy lists a minimum of 1.210. My question is I would of expected to see around 700fps coming from the xds and I was banking on going up to 6-6.5 grains with the xtp to reach the velocity I'm aiming for around 800-850fps but I just shot with the chrono and I averaged 1050fps. That not what I expected . Under 5.5 grains unique hornady lists it somewhere around 725-750fps in a 4" or so barrel. Im away from my book at the moment. What gives ? Brass looks good and primer after shooting 10 rounds. Is it the OAL causing the increased velocity? My chrono I just bought today.

Hope from Sportsman guide

mbpe912 — Tue, 21 May 2013 01:49:34 GMT

So today my card was charged and my order of 820 rounds of PMC brass 55 grain finally shipped today. Was ordered on 12/23/12.

Price was 303.98 with 20.00 shipping had a 25.00 of coupon and 15.00 gift card they game me. so cost was 280.00

Hopefully this will help others plan if they are on the back order list for this product. The guide gives no warning they hit the card....

200 Rounds .223 Fmj Ammo - 414679, .223 Ammo at Sportsman's Guide

Hexolit 32 Dupleks

UncleBuck — Mon, 20 May 2013 12:46:17 GMT

Are there any good tests out there on these loads?

Hexolit 32

Gander mtn had ammo

Jub — Sun, 19 May 2013 22:37:44 GMT

In Madison had piles of ammo this weekend. 9mm. .22. .40. Etc. Is the drought over?

Lead porn

zidave — Sun, 19 May 2013 02:03:27 GMT

This is for all the casters out there.
I see we have a gun porn thread and an ammo porn thread but nothing dedicated to lead.

Throw up some pix of your lead.

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Cabelas has 9mm

WoodBurner — Sun, 19 May 2013 01:25:09 GMT

I just went to their site and it let me put them both into my cart.
Federal Premium� Hydra-Shok� Handgun Ammo per 20 124 and 147 gr JHP for $24.99 not too bad for HP would suck for FMJ.

Sorry for the bold text but I copied and pasted and can't get the bold to turn off.

Which of the following melting pots would you use for bullet casting?

GT Jon — Sat, 18 May 2013 21:42:46 GMT

...and why?

Graf & Sons - LEE PRO 4-20 LEAD MELTER 110 VOLT (20lb CAPACITY)

Graf & Sons - LEE PRODUCTION POT IV 4" CLEARANCE (10lb CAPACITY)

I'd like to pick one up so I can turn all these 45ACP cast bullets I've got into ingots for storage until I can source some 9mm moulds and a sizer/lubricator.

Thanks!

Looking for ammo in St Louis MO

ready2rise — Sat, 18 May 2013 20:28:10 GMT

Hey guys I was hoping that anyone in or around the stl area had any luck with finding ammo in 40sw and also some 762x39 non tula ammo. Also interested in any websites that may have either for cheap. Thanks in advance I'm currently waiting on a prp match kit for my xdm40 so I'm definitely going to need some extra rounds to practice!

whats tis hoard of ammo bullets primers and guns wort?

core77 — Sat, 18 May 2013 16:25:15 GMT

http://www.*************/posts/16361...ts-best-offer- just wondering what i should offer for this
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I guess i cant post the link well here is a list of the items

RIFLES1) MAS 1936 Great Condition French Sniper rifle with Bayonett*2)Mauser M 98 Great Condition3) MK1 Enfield Great Condition with 3 Original Magazines A bunch of 303 British ammo that is uses is with the deal over 1250 rounds*OVER 12,000 PRIMERSWinchesterlarge Pistol Std or Magnum -1900Small Pistol-1025Small Rifle-3900Winchester WesternLarge Pistol- 900Small Pistol-1000Wincheste StaynessNo111-500No116-200No-115-100CCILarge Rifle 70Small Pistol-987Large Pistol-350No34- 900REMINGTONNo 2 1/2 -100WESTERN IMPROVEDNo 6 1/2-200No 8 1/2-10REMINGTONARMSNo 57-100FEDERAL*No 215-100WINCHESTER 30 CAL120M-10OVER 6000 BULLETSHORNADY30 CAL .308 Spire Point 150gr - 650*30 CAL .308 BTSP 165gr-400BULLETSHORNADY30 CAL .308 BTHP 168gr National Match -1744 CAL .430 Hollow PT-115*45 CAL .451 FMJ-RN 230 gr -807.63 CAL .310 123 gr -100SPEER30 CAL .308Boat Tail 165 gr-20030 CAL .308 Spitzer 165 gr-10030 CAL .308 Boat Tail Gold Match 190 gr -5630 CAL .308 Spitzer 150 gr-10030 CAL .308 Ball 174 GR-10038 CAL 167gr-100270 CAL .277 Round Nose 170gr-10045 CAL .451 Holloe Pt 200gr-130303CAL .312 Interlock 150 gr 100NORMA3O CAL .308 Soft Pt Boat Tail 180 gr-100REMINGTON303 CAL .311 Corelock soft pt 180 gr-100SIERRA GAVE KING270 CAL .277 Boat Tail Spitzer 130 gr-100NOSLER270 CAL .277 Spitzer 130 gr-5030 CAL .308 Balistic Tip Boat Tail 180 gr-10030 CAL .308 Flat pt 150gr -10030 CAL .308 FMJ 163 gr-5030 CAL .308 Spitzer 180gr-2530 CAL .308 Spitzer soft pt 100270 CAL Soft Pt 150gr-50270 CAL Partion 150gr-25U.S.556CAL Penetrators 62gr-200OVER 6000 BULLETS30 CAL .308 ARMOR PIERCING 164 gr -100FORTY FIVE BRAND30 CAL .308 SEMI pt 180 gr-1545 CAL Lead- 400WINCHESTER MATCH243CAL 35gr-200SIERRA RIFFLE270 CAL Spitzer flat base 130gr-130.243 CAL Spitzer 6mm 85gr-1002000+ ROUNDS MIS BULLETS BOXED SEPARATELY RIFLE PISTOL COPPER AND SILVERBRASS CASES30 CAL 15 lbs or so556 CAL 200 CASESMATCH IN original BoxesWinchester 60 CASES 30-06 184 gr silvertip270 CAL 20CASES30-06 CAL 40 CASES270 CAL 20 CASESOVER 4500 Rounds AMMUNITIONALL IN ORIGINAL AMMO CANS30 CAL ARMOR PIERCING - 628 ROUNDS 8RD CLIPS*30 CAL ARMOR PIERCING -96 ROUNDS 8RD CLIPS IN BAND30 CAL ARMOR PIERCING-100 ROUNDS BELT*30 CAL FMJ- 286 ROUNDS 8 RD CLIPS303 CAL CLOTH BELT- 1000 ROUNDS IN 4 250 BELTS8MM MAUSER SILVER WITH GREEN PAINT TIP -100 ROUNDSAMMUNITIONORIGINAL BOXES GREAT CONDITION30 CAL MATCH LAKE CITY FMJ 173GR 2640 FPS -120 RDS 5 BOXES 19673O CAL ARMOR PIERCING LAKE CITY -40 ROUNDS 2 BOXES3O CAL ANM2 BALL WINCHESTER WESTERN - 40 ROUNDS 2 BOXES30 CAL BALL M2 LAKE CITY -20 ROUNDS 1 BOX308 CAL ISRAELI -135 RDS ORIGINAL BOX 5 RD CLIPS 3CLIPS PER BOX 9 BOXES8MM 1938 NAZI M -28 ROUNDS ON 4 RD CLIPS 2 CLIPS PER BOX 4 BOXES8X50 MM LEBEL AMMO -195 ROUNDSSTILL ALL IN ORIGINAL BOXES IN GREAT CONDITION38 AUTO 150 GR WESTERN SUPER X -100 RDS7,5 MM GEWEHERPATRONE -30 RDS35 CAL WINCHESTER SORT PT-50 RDS32 CAL WESTERB S&W LONG 98 GR LUBALOY-40 RDS12 GA BEW CKYE REN UMC- 25 SHELLS16 GA HI POWER SHOT SHELLS FED CATRIDGE- 25 SHELLS6.5 MM BALL -20 RDS270 CAL SUPER SPEED BEAR ON BOX SILVERTIP 130 GR Expanding BULLET -40 RDS 2 BOXES30-3\06 CAL SPRINGFIELD MATCH FMJ 180 GR METAL BOAT TAIL 40-RDS IN 2 BOXES38 CAL SS SORT POINT 255 GRAIN-7 RDS*270 CAL PETER RUSTLESS 130 GN EXPANDING -20 RDS38 SPECIAL WESTERN SUPER MATCH 148 GR LEAD -100 RDS*30-40 CAL WESTERN SILVER TIP -20 RDS30-40 180 GR EXPANDING -17 RDSAMMUNITION270 CAL WESTERN SUPER X 130 GR SILVER TIP -10 RD20-33 WINCHESTER -18RDS44 REM 240 GR PONC ELDORADO -20 RDS38 SPECIAL WESTERN 158 GR LUBALOY -50RDS30-06 GARAND MATCH NEW BOX - 20 RDS.22 CAL REMINGTON OLD -125 RDS380 CAL REVOLVER CIS -12 RDS.32 SHORT RIM FIRE -50 RDS32 LONG COLT LUBALOY 82 GR -25 RDS176 RDS forgot the cal*BLANKS.556 LAKE CITY ARMY 1959 -400 RDS7.62 CAK LINKED BLANKS IN MILITARY CASE - 300 RDS30 CAL BLANKS- 270 RDS

What the difference between a 9mm 125 grain and a 147 grain cartridge?

Cnon — Sat, 18 May 2013 04:26:08 GMT

Dear All,

What the difference between a 9mm 125 grain and a 147 grain cartridge?

Please write back

Thanks,
Cnon

Ammo Price Analysis from Planet Money: Fairness Matters

Blacksamwell — Fri, 17 May 2013 14:47:58 GMT

Interesting story covering the current ammo shortage.

Demand For Ammunition Is Up. Why Aren't Prices? : Planet Money : NPR

An excerpt:

Quote:

In a famous study, the Nobel Laureate Daniel Kahneman and two colleagues found that people's ideas of fairness are so strong that, even if it makes short-term sense to raise prices during a shortage, many retailers don't. Campbell says that's because when prices go up, consumers actually care about the reason behind the increase � the retailer's motive.
"If a consumer sees a price go up in an unexpected fashion, they want to know, 'Why? Why has it gone up?' " she says.
There are lots of reasons consumers approve of (if the price the store is paying for the goods has increased, for example). But research has consistently shown that a sudden increase in demand is not one of them. So rather than raise prices, Bob's Little Sport Shop and other stores are rationing ammo in order to keep their customers' loyalty.

This explains why many people are upset when people buy up the ammo and resell it at sharply higher prices. The laws of economics show that increased pricing is a perfectly rational way to maximize profits during high demand. If shelves are empty that's a sign that the prices are too low. Yet many people don't see high demand as a fair reason to increase prices.

Although it won't help any of us find more ammo I do find it fascinating to hear about the root causes of the behaviors we're seeing.

LGS should know better

cjd3 — Fri, 17 May 2013 02:03:16 GMT

I went by the LGS on the way home after they posted on Facebook thatntheynhad ammo on the shelf. So I went by to check it out.
A 525 box of Federal 22LR was $45
A 50 count of Blazer aluminum .38 spcl $28
No name .45 was $45.
And if IRC, 100 bulk box of .223 was $69-70

I walked out empty handed as this is just ridiculous. A few months ago, they were selling new pmags for $25 each.

Needless to say, not shopping there ever again, or supporting them.

Cabelas has 40 and 45

meaty — Thu, 16 May 2013 20:49:28 GMT

The 40 is winchester bulk for $37/100. The 45 is remmington bulk $52/100.

Good luck!

reloading economics

yocan — Thu, 16 May 2013 03:54:16 GMT

So I ha a Lee challenger press. Dies primers powder brass the quick releases to put the dies in for 9mm 45 and 223 6.5 grendel

The Lee press is missing the parts between the handle and the press. Calling Lee tomorrow but betting $65 to get it up and running that would end up with the advanced foam roller handle

I'm teaching enough I'll go through 5k 9mm 5k 223 1k 45 acp within 4 months.

So I have everything except I need some more small pistol primers but know were to get em hell only sell me 1k a week.

Running lead for the pistols a hodgepodge for the 223 (know were to pick up 3k+ of 55 or heavier bullets pm me)

Anyways if I aim to reload 2k a month for the foreseeable future what's my best option. Do I buy a progressive press if so cost vs time what's what.

Next for the 223 do I need a case trimmer? I'm already got to buy a primer pocket cleaner. Is it worth it getting a decrimping tool for 566 brass I have a good bit.

I can't just keep shooting 2500 rounds a month of factory ammo its killing me.

Ammo Crisis Rant

Gunsandaccessories — Thu, 16 May 2013 01:44:14 GMT

Ammo Crisis 2013 (HD) - YouTube

Jumped off the 40SW deep end

Fishinglink — Wed, 15 May 2013 22:31:13 GMT

Well got so excited to find dies finally, I found the only place that had less than a 6-12 week process time and ordered some lead. I have 1000 lead Round Nose Semi Wadcutters in route to me. 155 gr with a brinell of 18. They had 500/$35 decided I'd stock up while I could find them. Now I have brass cleaned and primed, ready to go just waiting for them to show up. Going powder hunting again but I got a pretty good start with AA#2 Anyone that has a magic load for this setup that'd be awesome. Hoping to find power pistol or maybe find the new BE-86 that's coming out. 3 weeks out so I got time to find powder.

Oh also they are from Friendswood Bullet Co.
friendswoodbullet.com

Will Moly coating help cut down on barrel leading? Or am I correct in thinking that velocity and pressure affect it most?

PSA's got 223 and 556 in stock for now

crimsonfalcon07 — Wed, 15 May 2013 18:10:25 GMT

Just picked up a few boxes. It's probably going to be gone in 10 minutes, but they've got some .223 match and 5.56 in stock now.

Abnormally short case length

zidave — Tue, 14 May 2013 22:50:54 GMT

So I was going through my process of loading a batch of 40S&W and when doing my final inspections I noticed one case was abnormally short.

The OAL length of the loaded round came out to 1.1240" but the case itself is only .8120"

Lyman says it should measure at about .850"

The round chambered just fine but I was just curious, and cautious, as to whether or not the short case length would cause a problem as I'm firing or about to fire.

I took a side-by-side shot for a visual.

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Troy Defense Carbine AMAZING difference in accuracy! PICS

nuhler — Tue, 14 May 2013 15:41:49 GMT

So yesterday I tested out my first .223 reloads.

Rifle: Troy defense carbine 5.56 with 4-12 vortex diamondback

Reloads: Nosler 69gr

Powder: Verget 24gr (recommended min load)

VS

Remington value pack brass 55gr

The range was 100yds. The bad group was the remington value pack. The good group was my first 4 shots of the reloads. Best group of my life so far.

I think my 1:7 twist barrel really likes the heavier lead.

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Maybe a good sign?

Diamond Jim — Tue, 14 May 2013 14:01:24 GMT

Late yesterday evening I went into my local Sportsman's Warehouse (Southaven, MS) and was pleasently surprised that the ammo shelves were somewhat full (popular calibers like .223 & .308 were still lacking though, didn't look at the pistol ammo). I was able to pick up 2K CCI #250 Large Rifle Magnum primers, 2K Remington 6 1/2 Small Rifle primers, two 100 count boxes of Sierra 175 gr .308 SMK's And 2 lbs of H380 powder. They limit you to one SKU purchase per day and I had to take the wife with me and she bought the additional SKU's for me. Bad thing is she found out how much I paid for the stuff, might shouldn't do that again. ;)

Reloading equipment questions from a noob...

taylorjr — Tue, 14 May 2013 04:03:16 GMT

Hey all,

Getting into reloading - ordered a Lee Breech Lock Challenger Anniversary kit, 9mm dies (what I will begin with, probably begin loading 30-30 sometime as well), and a case length guage.

I think I have everything I need except a way to clean the brass and a proper powder measure, so those are my two questions.

1. Would you go ultrasonic ($29.99 at Harbor Freight) or would you go vibratory with walnut media (upwards of $75)? I don't need the cases to be the shiniest on the range, but they need to be clean.

2. What's the best manual powder measure? The Lee kit I bought is a single stage, and it comes with the "Perfect Powder Measure" but I have seen mixed reviews. Are there any good alternatives that doesn't include me weighing each charge on the scale they include?

Thanks for the help. I also scored some WSP primers, Berry's 115gr 9mm LRN, and some Titegroup powder - I'll likely begin at 3.9gr and work up to the max charge of 4.3gr (OAL = 1.100)

Updated Sizing and Lubing Vid

carstensxd45 — Tue, 14 May 2013 03:17:19 GMT

Wanted to show off my efforts with my Star Sizer doing about 2000 rounds of 45acp. Was able to complete them in under 2 hours. Plenty of materials for reloading.

You Tube

ammo finds today at cabelas

Docster1516 — Tue, 14 May 2013 01:34:34 GMT

well, no 9mm...1 box of .40S&W (50 for 23.99)...no .45, few misc .380, .44, etc...no .17HMR...tons of .223 (box of 20 18.99)...no 7.62x39...no normal .22lr, but guy behind counter had bulk 525 rem gold box for 22.99...not bad deal. I bought 1, wife bought 1, brother in law bought 1, sister in law bought 1, and they wouldnt sell one to my daughter, worth a shot haha. but hell, 2100 rounds for 92.

$0.04 per round, not bad at all especially when their 50 round boxes are 7.99 for same stuff.

hollow point for range?

tntviper1 — Mon, 13 May 2013 18:44:03 GMT

title says it all

i have been buying ammo to stock up

got some hollow points for a good price , but would you use them at the range?

Bad reload- Is this dangerous?

Reeko — Mon, 13 May 2013 18:07:02 GMT

So,
My local indoor range requires that you buy ammo from them, generally they only have reloads.

Anyway, we were shooting my wife's SP101 Friday using 38spl reloads.
So, I shot 5 rounds, but could not eject the casings, no matter how hard I tried to force the ejector rod.

Finally found the offending case, and had to pound it out using a long key, it was stuck bad.

Case was split alomost the entire length. Given that they use the spent casings from the range, I imagine they have no clue how many times a case has been fired.

Is there any danger of reloads that I should be aware of? A stuck case is probably no big deal, but I want to know if it can result in a dangerous kaboom or not.

Thanks

Nylon Jacketed Ammo

FasN8XDM — Sun, 12 May 2013 06:13:32 GMT

My local Cabelas had lots of Herters steel cased Nylon Jacketed in .40S&W. I'm not too familiar with nylon bullets. Has anyone had any experience with them? Do they shoot cleaner/dirtier? I passed on them...figured nobody else was buying them. Price wasn't bad $16.99 for a box of fifty.

Recommendations for .300BLK Supersonic?

DavidTrest — Sun, 12 May 2013 04:24:02 GMT

I've finally got the last of my reloading stuff from Dillon and MidwayUSA and I'm looking for a formula for .300BLK Supersonic rounds. I figure I'll use either 220gr or 240gr SMKs for subsonic, just wondering what bullets to use for supersonic. Someone recommended the Barnes TSX 110gr, but those are hard to find and very expensive as they're solid copper.

I'm just looking for something for regular range work. I still have time as I'm waiting for the paperwork on SBRing my AR-15 to go through and finish.

Getting back into reloading...

joeythefish — Sat, 11 May 2013 10:12:58 GMT

Thinking very seriously about getting Dillon 650XL. So does anyone here have one? Are they worth the hefty price tag? I had a Lee Progressive about 3 years ago and it was an "okay" press, not the most reliable though. The powder throw was in my estimation, finicky at best. I want something reliable, VERY well built, that like the Dillon I can add mods too later to enhance my reloading. So what are your thoughts?

Marine lookin for loading advice

vailredneck — Sat, 11 May 2013 05:50:53 GMT

hey guys Marine here askin for some help . im lookin to start loading my own .40s&w rounds never done it before . been lookin at presses an packages to try an figure out exactly what i need . im about to get the redding t-7 because of its great reviews but am open to suggestions and if someone could help me out with a list or package of exactly what ill need from equipment to powder to make a round from start to finish i would really appreciate it . i got lots of time but dont know anyone that reloads thanks for any advice you can give me . Semper Fi

What ammo shortage????

carstensxd45 — Sat, 11 May 2013 03:53:45 GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP0Rpmsb9ns&list=HL1368287205&feature=player_detailpage

MORE UPDATED VID FOLLOWING!!!!!!

Gold Dot JHP vs GDHP

WoodBurner — Fri, 10 May 2013 23:09:23 GMT

I bought a box of Gold Dot 147 gr JHP locally a few months ago. I see on a website Gold Dot 147 gr "GDHP". I can't find what GDHP means (Gold Dot Hollow Point?) so for SD is a GDHP any better or worse than a JHP both being Gold Dot 147 gr?

Need help keeping count of what you have?

KandK_Dad — Fri, 10 May 2013 20:10:48 GMT

Anyone that knows me knows I'm a nerd and I like making spreadsheets. Yes, I said it, spreadsheets. A while back I had made one to keep up with my 'stash'. It's fairly simple to use and easy to follow and I offer it to anyone that wants to use it. It's for Google docs but you should be able to download it to a OpenOffice/M$ Office friendly format.

You can find it here. Just view it and download it.

Right now it only has 100 lines so if you need more you'd have to add the extra lines and fill in the formula or just start another sheet(or I could just make more lines). For those with a really fast and constant turnover this probably won't be for you. ie, buy a hundred today shoot a hundred tomorrow. For those that are keeping a little extra around the house this should fit the bill.

It has an addition and dispense section for keeping tracking of ins and outs as well as an accountability section for keeping up with overall counts for a specific make of ammunition.

If there are any comments, questions, ideas that could be added just let me know. Thanks!

Damaging hollow points by chambering over and over?

WoodBurner — Fri, 10 May 2013 20:09:20 GMT

At home I don't have a round in the chamber.

When I go out I carry one in the chamber. Due to the commies in this state I now also remove 6 rounds from the mag... 10 round limit in the land of Premier Vladimir Malloy. So when I get home I drop the mag, rack out the one in the pipe and add that one and the other 5 back in the mag. I've been doing this for a while and the order of the bullets is all jumbled but I am racking a hollow point back in the chamber over and over.

Seems I saw in a thread here that this constant chambering/unchambering a hollow point round can damage the tip on the bullet. True or false and if true is this a concern that in a self defense situation the rounds may not feed properly or cause any other problem?

I'm considering buying another box (Gold Dot 147 gr JHP) but they're $1.85 a round $37 for 20 and if this is not really an issue then there's no need to do it. OTOH when talking self defense $37 is doable.

What'd you think?

$17.99 for 50 rounds of 40 S&W at Cabella's

CajunR — Fri, 10 May 2013 16:32:50 GMT

Catalog Quick Order - Item(s) Found : Cabela's

Lead Free Frangible Ammo

techvoodoo — Fri, 10 May 2013 06:02:51 GMT

My local gun range is a "Green" range and only allows Lead Free Frangible Ammunition to be shot on their range. For 50 rounds of 9mm they charge $28.50. I've never priced it out so maybe that is a fair price, but it seems a bit high.

I did some googling and I can't find anyone that has a factory Lead Free Frangible option for sale. Does anyone know if 1.) I should be able to find it cheaper than .57 cents per round, and 2.) Do you have a link to a website/dealer that I can purchase it from?

Thanks for the help I appreciate it.

Need 9mm?

taylorjr — Fri, 10 May 2013 02:55:28 GMT

From Freedom Munition's Facebook page:

Quote:

Need 9mm? Tomorrow at 12 noon CST FreedomMunitions.com will have 1 million rounds of 115 grain FMJ 9mm for sale in 500 round boxes. Spread the word so everyone can get some! Stay tunes for more announcements coming soon!

freedommunitions.com -get to it...well tomorrow. You're welcome.

223 brass karma

bowenbuilt — Fri, 10 May 2013 01:06:39 GMT

I have a large box, maybe 400 rounds, of once fired .223/5.56 range brass, mostly military, that I have no use for. The first PM with a shipping address gets it.

.40 s&w brass karma

bowenbuilt — Fri, 10 May 2013 01:04:41 GMT

i have a small lot of cleaned .40 S&W range brass that I have no use for, the first PM with a shipping address gets it.

380 ammo

fullthrottlenick — Thu, 09 May 2013 18:00:09 GMT

Anyone tried RWS Geco 380 ACP AUTO ammo?

Ammo???

DonnieBrasco — Thu, 09 May 2013 17:12:19 GMT

I've been stopping in some local places like Wally World and Dunhams every now and again checking to see if they have any ammo in stock. The last month or two the shelves have been bone dry. I knew my LGS only had some fiocchi in stock but it was 17 bucks for 50 rounds. So today I decided to stop in my LGS and see what was new. Not only did they have fiocchis but remington, WWB, and American Eagle! Unfortunately they were charging $19.99 per 50 rounds regardless of manufacturer. Now I've been itching to go to the range and have refused to go under 250 rounds of personal stock so I went ahead and bought 100 rounds of the WWB.

I guess I'm just wondering 2 things.

Does it mean anything that my LGS had a few brands to choose from? Are we going to see more ammo on store shelves soon?

I know this 2nd one has been beaten like a dead horse; Does anyone know if we can expect to see prices stay this high?

How does powder choice effect recoil 9mm

jiminsandiego — Thu, 09 May 2013 03:39:11 GMT

My first reloads were 9mm AA#2 with 125gr. LRN. Then I got a hold of some WSF and loaded the same bullets with WSF. All rounds (with both powders) worked flawlessly from start charge to slightly above medium. (where I stopped and settled on about mid range for both powders.)
The faster AA#2 cartridges definitely had a much "softer" recoil feel than the slower/medium WSF. Even so, the WSF rounds felt much less "snappy" when compared to my Freedom Munitions factory reloads.
So ,as a newbie, I would be interested in more information as to how different powders/speed of powders, effect felt recoil. By the way I bought the WSF specifically to use with 147gr. FP but until they arrive I've been experimenting with what I have.
Thanks for any enlightenment on this facet of reloading,
Jim