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Rodimus Prime · 08-06-2004, 09:38 AM

I've been looking at the XD9 sub for a while, and finally picked one up last week at a gunshow. I know that guide rods are available for the 4" and 5" models, but what about the subcompacts? I haven't been able to find anything on it using the search feature.

Don · 08-06-2004, 11:18 AM

I am of the the thought that shorter pistols have a narrower range of operation, and it may run into reliability problems. Well, that and I don't own a subcompact to do any testing on. So no guide rod is offered now. I am willing to send out prototypes if someone wants to try some things, but I have no idea where to begin on what spring to suggest.

Rodimus Prime · 08-06-2004, 01:56 PM

The SC is a great little gun. It's lighter than the larger XD so you feel more recoil. I think it would be even better with a heavier spring. I'm used to my FN Hi-power with a 24# stock spring, so I'm looking for something around 22# for my SC.

I'm surprised that it no one seems interested in a heavier spring for the SC. Would you be interested in sending me a prototype and getting some feedback from me?

Don · 08-06-2004, 03:01 PM

Yes, I can send you out a prototype, with whatever info I have come up with (dimensions for compressed spring height etc.) But, you will need to trial and error your way on finding a spring that can fit. The prototype will be plain steel, if you find something that works I will send you a stainless one. Thanks!

4bangin · 12-14-2004, 02:02 AM

Any word on a sub compact rob yet I've been looking for one and heard your were the one to talk to I'd be willing to try some prototype stuff if your willing to make it. I have a extra stock one I could send you if it would help.

mr0w1 · 12-21-2004, 08:58 PM

this is an exciting topic. i hope something comes of it.

keep up the good work guys, don, et al.

Don · 12-22-2004, 12:51 AM

Nothing yet. Rodimus Prime is trying some things, but I am the skeptic so far (not for his work, just for the sub in general). Short barrel semi-autos seem to have a narrow window of operating and I'm not sure what will come of the efforts. Rodimus Prime has more faith than me (and he has a sub-compact to do some testing on) so the ball is in his court. Or any other intrepid researcher.

Other than the desire for change, is there something that says the recoil is bad in the sub? The reviews I have read seem pretty positive which is good for such a short barreled beast.

Verm · 01-02-2005, 11:37 PM

I find the recoil on the XD to be extremely tame compared to other subcompacts like the Glock, Kel Tec and Kahrs.

WaltherP99 · 02-21-2005, 10:06 AM

Hey guys, been checking out the forum and decided to join. Keep me posted on this topic cause I wouldn't mind having one for my SC!!!

stealthsniper · 03-05-2005, 11:10 AM

For those that are still interested, I've jumped into the mix of those attempting to develop an SC rod/spring combo. In the event that I succeed, the rod will be offered under the trusted Don's Guide Rod name. Updates will come as things progress.

08-06-2004, 09:38 AM	#1
Rodimus Prime XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 19	Subcompact aftermarket guide rod? I've been looking at the XD9 sub for a while, and finally picked one up last week at a gunshow. I know that guide rods are available for the 4" and 5" models, but what about the subcompacts? I haven't been able to find anything on it using the search feature.

08-06-2004, 11:18 AM	#2
Don XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Pullman, WA Posts: 4,268	I am of the the thought that shorter pistols have a narrower range of operation, and it may run into reliability problems. Well, that and I don't own a subcompact to do any testing on. So no guide rod is offered now. I am willing to send out prototypes if someone wants to try some things, but I have no idea where to begin on what spring to suggest. __________________ Don geek with guns Why don\'t you all f-f-f-fade away.... FAQ - Don\'s Guide Rod

08-06-2004, 03:01 PM	#4
Don XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Pullman, WA Posts: 4,268	Yes, I can send you out a prototype, with whatever info I have come up with (dimensions for compressed spring height etc.) But, you will need to trial and error your way on finding a spring that can fit. The prototype will be plain steel, if you find something that works I will send you a stainless one. Thanks! __________________ Don geek with guns Why don\'t you all f-f-f-fade away.... FAQ - Don\'s Guide Rod

12-14-2004, 02:02 AM	#5
4bangin XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Va Beach Posts: 2	Any word on a sub compact rob yet I've been looking for one and heard your were the one to talk to I'd be willing to try some prototype stuff if your willing to make it. I have a extra stock one I could send you if it would help. __________________ 9mm SA XD Sub-Compact Bi-Tone

12-21-2004, 08:58 PM	#6
mr0w1 XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,536	this is an exciting topic. i hope something comes of it. keep up the good work guys, don, et al. __________________ guns.freaksho.net - My awesome gun website! More guns than ever! (Last updated: July 24, 2006)

08-06-2004, 01:56 PM	#3
Rodimus Prime XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 19	The SC is a great little gun. It's lighter than the larger XD so you feel more recoil. I think it would be even better with a heavier spring. I'm used to my FN Hi-power with a 24# stock spring, so I'm looking for something around 22# for my SC. I'm surprised that it no one seems interested in a heavier spring for the SC. Would you be interested in sending me a prototype and getting some feedback from me?

12-22-2004, 12:51 AM	#7
Don XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Pullman, WA Posts: 4,268	Nothing yet. Rodimus Prime is trying some things, but I am the skeptic so far (not for his work, just for the sub in general). Short barrel semi-autos seem to have a narrow window of operating and I'm not sure what will come of the efforts. Rodimus Prime has more faith than me (and he has a sub-compact to do some testing on) so the ball is in his court. Or any other intrepid researcher. Other than the desire for change, is there something that says the recoil is bad in the sub? The reviews I have read seem pretty positive which is good for such a short barreled beast. __________________ Don geek with guns Why don\'t you all f-f-f-fade away.... FAQ - Don\'s Guide Rod

01-02-2005, 11:37 PM	#8
Verm XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Carson City NV. Posts: 814	I find the recoil on the XD to be extremely tame compared to other subcompacts like the Glock, Kel Tec and Kahrs. __________________ Enough firepower, the will and the guts to use it all.

02-21-2005, 10:06 AM	#9
WaltherP99 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Berks County, Pennsylvania Posts: 347	Hey guys, been checking out the forum and decided to join. Keep me posted on this topic cause I wouldn't mind having one for my SC!!! __________________ GLOCK M30 .45 ACP WWW.GLOCKERS.COM "My own idea of a $5,500 .45 auto is a used Volkswagon with a Glock 30 in the glove box..." - Massad Ayoob

03-05-2005, 11:10 AM	#10
stealthsniper XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 391	For those that are still interested, I've jumped into the mix of those attempting to develop an SC rod/spring combo. In the event that I succeed, the rod will be offered under the trusted Don's Guide Rod name. Updates will come as things progress. __________________ -stealth- XD-40 Service - Dearly Departed Ruger KMK-512: VQ tuned Remington 1100 Trap Special

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